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FedEx Freight | January Bonus?

At least you guys get bonuses. Canadian contractors get nothing because the company feels the contractors are paid well enough. No raise the whole time I was there, and still no raise according to people I still talk to. One of the reasons I left was their stubborn refusal to even give a cost of living raise while suddenly charging for insurance and plates.

Be thankful for your bonus. Not everyone gets one.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
At least you guys get bonuses. Canadian contractors get nothing because the company feels the contractors are paid well enough. No raise the whole time I was there, and still no raise according to people I still talk to. One of the reasons I left was their stubborn refusal to even give a cost of living raise while suddenly charging for insurance and plates.

Be thankful for your bonus. Not everyone gets one.
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Key word,contractors.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
At least you guys get bonuses. Canadian contractors get nothing because the company feels the contractors are paid well enough. No raise the whole time I was there, and still no raise according to people I still talk to. One of the reasons I left was their stubborn refusal to even give a cost of living raise while suddenly charging for insurance and plates.

Be thankful for your bonus. Not everyone gets one.
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I am thankful sir just wondering if anyone has heard if we are getting one that's all
 
SwampRatt said:
Free? It is part of our compensation package. Reward for "working" to improve the efficiency of the operation. If you notice it is not a constant figure but a progressive one, with the percentage of return going up as efficiency increases. Earning that maximum payout of 4.5% will take some serious effort, so it won't be free. Someone will have worked for (and earned) it... So, if it wasn't you, remember to thank those responsible..

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Amen!
 
Canadian Flyer said:
Lots of carriers give bonuses to owner operators. Care to explain why FedEx is special? Especially when FedEx Freight is represented in Canada solely by contractors expected to brand their trucks as FedEx?
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I explained it in one word,contractors. I don't give a bonus to anyone that I hire to do a job. Nobody forces these guys to contract with Fedex.
 
fartknocker said:
I explained it in one word,contractors. I don't give a bonus to anyone that I hire to do a job. Nobody forces these guys to contract with Fedex.
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So you're saying that nobody deserves a bonus? Because there's not a lot of difference between an owner operator and an employed driver when viewed through the scope of "hired to do a job". CEO's are awarded bonuses and they work on a contract for a salary.

Try again to explain to me why a contracted representative is different from an employed one. Because the last time I checked, if you are operating your equipment under a carrier's authority and are using their name on your equipment (FedEx mandates this) then you are, for all intents and purposes, a representative of the company.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
Lots of carriers give bonuses to owner operators. Care to explain why FedEx is special? Especially when FedEx Freight is represented in Canada solely by contractors expected to brand their trucks as FedEx?
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Canadian Flyer said:
... CEO's are awarded bonuses and they work on a contract for a salary.
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C. Flyer, is it not feasible for a "contractor", or group of contractors, to negotiate their contract? By definition, they work under a contract, therefore there must be an opportunity to insert language to their liking, or strike language that is unacceptable. Certainly bonus provisions and criteria "could be" part of any contract. Of course it should go without saying that these would have to be agreed to by both parties, which is never certain.

Does FedEx just present a take or leave it contract? Is there no leverage for a contractor with a significant number of trucks and/or a proven track record, to negotiate, or renegotiate?

Just curious...
 
SwampRatt said:
C. Flyer, is it not feasible for a "contractor", or group of contractors, to negotiate their contract? By definition, they work under a contract, therefore there must be an opportunity to insert language to their liking, or strike language that is unacceptable. Certainly bonus provisions and criteria "could be" part of any contract. Of course it should go without saying that these would have to be agreed to by both parties, which is never certain.

Does FedEx just present a take or leave it contract? Is there no leverage for a contractor with a significant number of trucks and/or a proven track record, to negotiate, or renegotiate?

Just curious...
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FedEx presents a take it or leave it contract. They refuse to negotiate. The last time the contractors asked for raises, they argued that Canada wasn't making enough standalone profit to warrant an increase, and besides that they pay top tier. They wanted to give the dock employees a raise first...and to my knowledge, that still hasn't happened.

They went so far as to threaten to pay less. Everyone shut up after that. A year later they started charging for plates and insurance, with no raise to compensate. FedEx only negotiates in their own favor, and if you don't like it, you're welcome to leave. Most guys accept it because the money is still good, but it's nowhere near as good as it used to be.

One of the nice things about D&R is that they appreciate the o/o's and their drivers. They don't bully us here the way FedEx did. The driver shortage is considerably more critical here than down there. Even Schneider National treasures their Canadian drivers and contractors more than FedEx Freight, giving them safety bonuses and incentives.

FedEx used to be a good place to work. Politics ruined it. And they believe a contractor being paid $1.80/mi for a 300mi round trip is making a fortune because they don't see the expenses.
 
And they've deliberately started whittling down contractors with too many trucks. One contractor virtually ran LON for several years, with 12 trucks. FedEx has been finding excuses to fire his trucks. One driver messes up? Two trucks gone, as punishment.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
And they've deliberately started whittling down contractors with too many trucks. One contractor virtually ran LON for several years, with 12 trucks. FedEx has been finding excuses to fire his trucks. One driver messes up? Two trucks gone, as punishment.
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Not punishment, FX doesn't want to be in a position that is unfavorable to them, in this case if the contractor were to leave it would put FX in a bind, they are just hedging their bets.
 
SwampRatt said:
C. Flyer, is it not feasible for a "contractor", or group of contractors, to negotiate their contract? By definition, they work under a contract, therefore there must be an opportunity to insert language to their liking, or strike language that is unacceptable. Certainly bonus provisions and criteria "could be" part of any contract. Of course it should go without saying that these would have to be agreed to by both parties, which is never certain.

Does FedEx just present a take or leave it contract? Is there no leverage for a contractor with a significant number of trucks and/or a proven track record, to negotiate, or renegotiate?

Just curious...
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Most if not all companies that use owner operators present a take it or leave it contract there's really not any negotiations exept in some special cases.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
So you're saying that nobody deserves a bonus? Because there's not a lot of difference between an owner operator and an employed driver when viewed through the scope of "hired to do a job". CEO's are awarded bonuses and they work on a contract for a salary.

Try again to explain to me why a contracted representative is different from an employed one. Because the last time I checked, if you are operating your equipment under a carrier's authority and are using their name on your equipment (FedEx mandates this) then you are, for all intents and purposes, a representative of the company.
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I'm not explaining anything,you are willfully ignorant on the subject. Am I mistaken that you don't even work for or contract with Fedex? Frankly,this is none of your concern and you should butt the hell out.
 
fartknocker said:
I'm not explaining anything,you are willfully ignorant on the subject. Am I mistaken that you don't even work for or contract with Fedex? Frankly,this is none of your concern and you should butt the hell out.
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Wow, harsh. Apparently a past contractor isn't allowed to contribute to the conversation. You don't know me, apparently, and don't assume that you do based upon what you can see.

And I am not wilfully ignorant. Have you seen a FedEx contract? Have you ever been a contractor for ANYONE? Because if not, then you are not qualified to determine that simply working on a contract means that you don't represent the company you are contracted to and therefore don't deserve a bonus.

Employees are not special, and not being one doesn't mean a contractor somehow doesn't work as hard. Frankly, if anyone needs to butt the hell out, it's you who clearly has no appreciation for the fact that work is work and deserves reward, regardless of being an employee or a contractor. Pull your head out of your ass.
 
fartknocker said:
I'm not explaining anything,you are willfully ignorant on the subject. Am I mistaken that you don't even work for or contract with Fedex? Frankly,this is none of your concern and you should butt the hell out.
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Aw, c'mon...Canadian Flyer is a good dude and only post truths/facts and he lets you know when it's his opinion. Eventhough he is a former FedEx contractor, he his well respected and very knowledgable on a variety of topics and many here, including myself, enjoy his outlook and opinions on those such topics, whether we agree with them or not.
 
Redracer3136 said:
Aw, c'mon...Canadian Flyer is a good dude and only post truths/facts and he lets you know when it's his opinion. Eventhough he is a former FedEx contractor, he his well respected and very knowledgable on a variety of topics and many here, including myself, enjoy his outlook and opinions on those such topics, whether we agree with them or not.
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Thanks Red. And nonetheless the original purpose of my original message was to remind everyone that you're a lucky bunch to get a bonus. Not everyone does, and that's the truth whether we like it or not.

You know I hate it when it gets down to the "contractor vs employee" thing. There seems to be this negative connotation associated with the word "contractor" in LTL. I get it, I do. But a large number of carriers in Canada are either 100% contractor (owner/operator) or have sizable contract fleets. That includes LTL, and even YRC Reimer Express Lines and CNTL (both unionized) run 100% contractor fleets.

Being a "contractor" doesn't automatically void you of rights or change your relationship with the company, and it's certainly no excuse for not giving a bonus. It doesn't even necessarily make you easier to fire, since you can still fight it in court.

All a "contractor" is, in our world, is a guy with a truck (and thus a business) who signs a contracted lease agreement with a carrier to operate his truck for them. To some people, that's work an employee should be doing. What they don't understand is that guy is still an employee (of his own company) and is just trying to make a living, same as you.
 
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