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wildcatdriver15 said:
Under the name Con-way but the company is Canada Merger Corp. It is eventually owned by XPO but there's still a buffer. Canadian company owned by Canadian company owned by American company. Long story short, I doubt OD has any intention of trying to operate in Canada even if it were possible because the difficulty of dealing with Canadian govt. not dealing with drivers and benefits is reason enough.
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That's not really a loophole. That's how it works. A Canadian company is established by the American company to allow them to operate a domestic fleet.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
The part that you seem to be misunderstanding here is that those laws apply to American drivers and equipment, NOT the carrier. If OD came to Canada, they would need a fleet of trucks and trailers plated in Canada as well as an administrative office. They would require Canadian employees, etc, to move freight domestically.

And those laws also exist on your side of the border, with virtually identical wording. Example: OD tractor, driven by US driver, crosses border into Canada. Drops two trailers in Toronto. But the only available load to the US is located in London. The US driver may take two empty trailers to London, exchange them for the loaded ones, then carry on back to the US. This is NOT considered a domestic freight move, and is done purely in the interest of getting you home. It WOULD be illegal to have that driver pull two loaded trailers between Toronto and London, but empties do not count. The reverse is true in the US.
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Yes but that's Canada's rule. It falls under repositioning equipment. Either way I don't see OD in Canada as an owner.
 
DMT said:
Due to the current CAROLINA influence.......we will survive if he goes
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All these new guys in the past few years are pretty blind to what's going on. The new head in control sure is being made known out here on the west coast! Good job slowly turning us into Conway/FXF Congdons. Take your money and run.
 
SIKOFITALL said:
Being that you guys still focus on customer satisfaction, and the employees, you guys are here to stay . This is coming from a 16 year FedEx Freight guy. Formally AF employee . If anybody big in the LTL segment go's down ( with the exception of CT or YRC ) I promise you guys it will be FEDEX . Our upper management has no clue at all. They are getting way to big , way to fast. We are now the Swift of the LTL market , and we damage everything . We aren't even an LTL company anymore , we a merely an investment firm. Keep up the great work O.D. You guy kick ass !!!!!!
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WE DO OUR BEST ON THE DOCK WE LOVE OD
FREIGHT IS FREIGHT ON ANY DOCK , WE JUST DO IT BETTER
 
BillyLo said:
All these new guys in the past few years are pretty blind to what's going on. The new head in control sure is being made known out here on the west coast! Good job slowly turning us into Conway/FXF Congdons. Take your money and run.
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Maybe after the transformation is complete city drivers will get time and a half,and road drivers will get more than slave wages for delay time....
 
Canadlyer said:
Entirely untrue. FedEx, Con-way/XPO and YRC (for YRCF through Reimer Express Lines Ltd.) all own their Canadian carriers, and that's just in LTL. Schneider National has an in-house Canadian operation, Celadon did until they renamed it Hyndman (after a carrier they purchased that had higher success hiring due to better pay...the pay didn't make the transition) and a few Canadian carriers have even built into the US (Day & Ross USA, TransX USA & Verspeeten Cartage USA/Cordell Transportation come to mind). And prior to TNT selling off TNT Freightways (later USFreightways) their operation was one as well, with Overland Express in Canada taking care of Red Star, Holland, Dugan and Reddaway in the US.

The reason partnerships are more common is because establishing a visible presence in Canada isn't easy. In most cases, US carriers buy their partner. This won't happen with OD though because two carriers service them, and Speedy Transport has a much bigger contract with YRCW to be the Canadian presence of Holland and New Penn. That being said, OD has sent Speedy a van to do P&D with because they want the customer to see their name.

Having that visible presence among their customers, combined with already doing the border crossing part on their own, suggests that OD does eventually plan to establish their own fleet here. I would welcome it.
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I think that you've hit the nail on the head. I also agree that it would be a great idea. I'd love to see it.
 
fartknolinepost: 1015895 said:
It's hard to take somebody knocking another carrier when they work under those conditions,and apparently seniority that means nothing.
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100k a year on linehaul is slave wages? How often do you break down? Come on...
 
Freightsup said:
Speedy seems to have a lock on ltl up there...
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Speedy does Holland, New Penn and OD, as well as their own domestic freight. They also did Red Star before they were shut down. But their footprint isn't exceptionally large. They only cover Southern Ontario and Quebec, but this allows them to cover roughly half of Canada's major cities.

They're a busy carrier, but they're very much regional. A lot of people don't understand how Reimer (Roadway/YRCF's in-house partner) didn't get USF and New Penn. New Penn originally interlined with Manitoulin Transport (who currently services Reddaway) but it's a fair guess that Speedy was awarded New Penn as overlap with Holland.
 
[QUOTcanadian Flyer, post: 1016144, member: 33971"]Speedy does Holland, New Penn and OD, as well as their own domestic freight. They also did Red Star before they were shut down. But their footprint isn't exceptionally large. They only cover Southern Ontario and Quebec, but this allows them to cover roughly half of Canada's major cities.

They're a busy carrier, but they're very much regional. A lot of people don't understand how Reimer (Roadway/YRCF's in-house partner) didn't get USF and New Penn. New Penn originally interlined with Manitoulin Transport (who currently services Reddaway) but it's a fair guess that Speedy was awarded New Penn as overlap with Holland.[/QUOTE]
Very interesting. Thanks for the insite.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
Considering YRC is still alive, I don't think OD is going anywhere. I don't think autonomous tractors will be cost effective in a decade, but the manual transmission will be a thing of the past as integrated smart drivetrains improve tractor fuel economy.

As for OD, if they keep recruiting FedEx drivers eventually they'll surpass them. But freight volumes are a fickle mistress. Personally, I'd like to see OD establish their own Canadian network instead of relying on interlining.
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Totally agree with you. I'm tried of dealing with speedy transport. No accountability there when something goes wrong with the paperwork. In the thing is corporate knows about it.
 
BillyLo said:
All these new guys in the past few years are pretty blind to what's going on. The new head in control sure is being made known out here on the west coast! Good job slowly turning us into Conway/FXF Congdons. Take your money and run.
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I am glad I am not the only one that thinks this.
 
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