XPO | Group of XPO workers, labor officials to gather in protest of company practices

And I remember how some CCX drivers were snickering at a CF driver that was cleaning out freight after the shutdown. I guess just like you I will let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

Well I for one never had anything bad to say about CF and also never heard anybody snicker as you say when they shutdown. That was a sad day for everyone that lost their jobs that day.

And when you say a few bad apples spoil the bunch it was the vast majority that treated me poorly. Not everyone I meet was like that but like I said great strategy to make me ever want to join a union. All I was doing was earning a paycheck.
 
Well I for one never had anything bad to say about CF and also never heard anybody snicker as you say when they shutdown. That was a sad day for everyone that lost their jobs that day.

And when you say a few bad apples spoil the bunch it was the vast majority that treated me poorly. Not everyone I meet was like that but like I said great strategy to make me ever want to join a union. All I was doing was earning a paycheck.
And I never had anything bad to say about ccx drivers. But I will never forget how those guys treated that CF driver. Two ****ing douchebags that wouldn't have had a place to work had it not been for the company that this man spent his life at.
 
I've heard that a thousand times.........and I call b.s.

Any employee with a spine would laugh at Mgt. for telling them who they can and can't talk to. I would make a fool out of any management person who told me that. That will be the day that this guy (ME) gets told who I can talk to.

Some people act like the non-union guys go in to work like some kind of drone or sheep, and have no voice and are afraid to look cross-eyed at Mgt. ..................again, I call b.s.
When you have mouth's to feed and no contract protection one tend's to shut their pie hole.
Going from a 34 year job under a Teamster contract to an at will job is quite an eye opener.
Try working with a bunch of good ol boys that hate unions but know nothing about them.
 
I am going to reply to your reply in sequence
1: Yes the government did place the central states pension fund in trusteeship. However, that was due to the entire Teamsters orginization being placed under federal trusteeship for racketeering and corruption, and the pension fund was included because it involved financial contributions on behalf of the membership that were participants in cspf. At the time of the fund being placed under trusteeship, the IRS also ordered a directive to the fund to issue a 13th check to retirees so the government could get the extra tax revenue. That was all due to the cspf being approximately 120% funded at the time. Also at that time the cspf was forced to up retirees monthly payments and introduce formulas of 25 years and out and 30 years and out at any age. Factor in the damage inflicted on the Teamsters due to deregulation of the trucking industry (that brought massive company closures) and the recipe for disaster was made.

2: The Teamsters had no choice but to let UPS withdraw from cspf. Any employer that comes forward with a check in hand for the amount of their withdrawl liability has the LEGAL RIGHT to withdraw. The Teamsters, or any other union signatory to cspf, can do nothing to keep that from happening. And it was also done within the constitution of the Teamsters union, each and every dues paying member employed by UPS had a vote in the matter, and the majority of UPS employees voted in favor of withdrawing from cspf. The Teamsters are a Democracy, the members get a vote on any and all changes to contractual obligations.

3: UPS paid somewhere in the ballpark of 6.1 BILLION ( alot of $ ) for their withdrawl. Was the money mismanaged? There have been many different analysts opinions on the issue and they do vary, that makes it inconclusive. However, at that time a perfect storm was brewing in Wall Street and the manufacturing sector aka "the recession", and nobady saw that coming. Couple that with the amount of retirees getting a monthly check outnumbering the amount of actives having contributions made, the math is easy to do. And yes there are some Wall Street fat cats out there that got fat on our dime, but if there was any link to Teamster leadership they would have already been removed from office and brought up on both internal and criminal charges by now.

None of my reply makes for juicy reproach against the Teamsters Union, but it is factual. And you can rest assure that Brad Jacobs and his band of cronies would never circulate the facts, they are much happier with their enslaved employees being in the dark. Joining the Teamsters is the only option you people have to get security in the workplace and our entire industry. You all work too hard to be mistreated and disrespected.

It's nice to finally hear someone who is in the rank and file admit that the Teamsters organization is corrupt and has stolen from it's members. Most won't do that. That however is one of the biggest reasons I am more than hesitant to join a Teamster represented company. Why do I want a bunch of crooks "representing" me when all they do is steal and give the company whatever it is they wish. OD is FAR from perfect, but treats me fairly and with respect. I don't need much more than that.
 
Hello all.
I do. Work for union company.
When I applied for the job at Roadway it was union.
I didn't know that. I was straight out of the oilfield. Almost. Had two jobs in between.
I was proud to say I worked for Roadway and had union representation after awhile.
And yes... It was all good. Now not so. But what job is. After close to 30 years doing this I am no longer proud to work for either of them. Yes.. It needs to be cleaned up.
But you tell me what a 60 year old man is to do? Quit? No. Can't. Need the insurance because I work at a job where you not only use up time... time takes a toll on your body.
Nobody is gonna hire a 60 year old man. Nobody. But. I cannot lose my job because of my age... or physical condition. I am backed up by the union.
Now if it comes down to it XPO can let you go for many reasons. No backup. You may be 60 but they don't want you anymore. You may have 25 years in. But they don't want you anymore. They... XPO... Can come up with a justifiable reason to let you go and get away with it. Yrc can't. And doesn't dare. As most are 55 and older and they would get hammered with lawsuits. XPO will just say... Example.... You didn't wear your seat belt.
Your going to have to be let go.
YRC is trying.... But they are getting no where. Why? We have backup.
Not saying it's good or bad. But as long as they are in business... I will have a job.
Not dissing a union... Or not having a union. Alot of us just happened to work for a company that has one.
But there are alot of hardcore Teamsters. Why... I don't know.
I'm rambling. But just had to say something. We are ALL in a place where we just have to get along. Union or non union. We do the same thing.
Basically batch about the company we work for.
But we would do that if we worked for Walmart too.
 
Show me any company that kept everything the same benefit wise from 22 years in the past.

I can't Un...unless you started talking about fortune 500 companies. And that's my point...just hoping that XPO is truly on it's way to becoming something big so that it won't cut benefits to it's employees over the long haul.[/QUOTE]

Wal-mart and McDonalds are enormous. How's their benefits ?
 
If the CSO pension failure is the fault of the government, one has to wonder why the western state's pension is still healthy?


You are going to ruin this Teamster recruiters story if you keep applying common sense to his assumption of your ignorance.
 
I can't Un...unless you started talking about fortune 500 companies. And that's my point...just hoping that XPO is truly on it's way to becoming something big so that it won't cut benefits to it's employees over the long haul.

Wal-mart and McDonalds are enormous. How's their benefits ?[/QUOTE]


I see your point HS...but I can't agree that burger flippers and stock room boys would hardly be considered a skilled labor force on the same level as those of us who are professional truck drivers. All of our training,(schooling and CDL licensing,) four season driving experience, and LTL business savvy are essential for any big trucking company to survive today. Furthermore, any big trucking company would be foolish to not go out of their way to want to retain their specialized work force as best they could and by whatever means that they could simply because of the competitiveness of our business...hence a decent benefit package would have to be maintained.
 
It's nice to finally hear someone who is in the rank and file admit that the Teamsters organization is corrupt and has stolen from it's members. Most won't do that. That however is one of the biggest reasons I am more than hesitant to join a Teamster represented company. Why do I want a bunch of crooks "representing" me when all they do is steal and give the company whatever it is they wish. OD is FAR from perfect, but treats me fairly and with respect. I don't need much more than that.

Hey Song... I felt bad for one of our recently licensed young guns here at my barn. There's not enough work for our TM to put him on the street to gain any experience in making deliveries or line haul...he just works the dock day after day and getting more frustrated over it. I told him that management should let him at least back in the l/h units when they arrive in the morning.
 
Wal-mart and McDonalds are enormous. How's their benefits ?


I see your point HS...but I can't agree that burger flippers and stock room boys would hardly be considered a skilled labor force on the same level as those of us who are professional truck drivers. All of our training,(schooling and CDL licensing,) four season driving experience, and LTL business savvy are essential for any big trucking company to survive today. Furthermore, any big trucking company would be foolish to not go out of their way to want to retain their specialized work force as best they could and by whatever means that they could simply because of the competitiveness of our business...hence a decent benefit package would have to be maintained.[/QUOTE]


Businesses have never considered truck drivers skilled labor.

Because of the competitiveness of the business we have seen our benefits package dwindle over the years.
 
When you have mouth's to feed and no contract protection one tend's to shut their pie hole.
I get your point, but I've never went in to work to run my "pie hole", I've always just went in to do what I get paid to do. And the friends that I make throughout the journey is a bonus. I don't look for trouble at work, but I also will never bend over to any boss at any level. They will either treat me with respect, or I will check to see if the company that replaces them will. In life, I treat others just like they treat me, and no contract will ever change that.
Going from a 34 year job under a Teamster contract to an at will job is quite an eye opener.
I walked away from a union contract. You want to know why? Because the union was allowing the company to shed that contract, page by page. From work rule violations, pay cuts, vacation cuts, pension cuts....etc.etc. So tell me, what good was that contract again?

Try working with a bunch of good ol boys that hate unions but know nothing about them.
Can't comment on that, since I've never had to do it. If I were a betting man, I'd say that most of the non-union company employees don't even mention the union since they know that it isn't going to organize them, and it's just not the hot topic of the day.........ever.
I doubt that the nons actually "hate" the union, they simply don't care about the union.
 
Nobody. But. I cannot lose my job because of my age... or physical condition. I am backed up by the union.
I always looked at the union as my "attorney" so to speak. And if I were discharged for no good reason, I would use them to fight my case.
Although I think that a non-union driver getting discharged for no just cause would rarely happen, they also have an avenue to fight their case, they can hire a private attorney. Unjust terminations can be fought and won. At a union operation, you might get your job back, at a non union operation, you might get millions.


Example.... You didn't wear your seat belt.
Your going to have to be let go.
I realize that you only used wearing your seat belt as an example, but everyone has to follow company policies and rules. Even a union operation's employees are supposed to follow the rules. And being terminated from a non-union operation would still require proof that the person was not wearing his seat belt to be justified.

A company that fires a 60 year old without just cause is taking a real risk of a lawsuit based on age discrimination. If you don't follow the rules though, you don't have a leg to stand on in the court room.

We are ALL in a place where we just have to get along. Union or non union. We do the same thing.
I have never looked at non union versus union in this industry because everyone is just trying to make a living. Maybe because I've coached the non-union guy's kids in multiple sports and have become friends with their families. And the last time I checked, whether you hold a union card or not, you still put your jeans on one leg at a time.......just like me.
 
Mysticobra , at my non-union location , we have ALL kinds of people that show up , pick up their check , and go home. Some guys are OLD , can't work fast , and really should retire. ( but they can't , healthcare cost , bills , benefits for the spouse , etc..)

Some just plain outright play the system. No union? Well no problem , most companies have a legal department , human resources department , and live in fear of the government and political correctness. Oh , and don't forget brown-nosing and kneepads-under-the-desk guy....

I've worked at UPS and General Motors for years before coming to Con-way and I don't see much fear of being fired. It's not always fair , but you get that , union or non-union. This job or ANY job will be what you make out of it.
 
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