Holland | Trying Petes Now

REALLY?? I didn't know we ran city units on the road at night? Last time I looked, which was this morning, ALL these city units have a "C" on the end of the numbers sequence OR 54,000# base plates. Too light for Highway work, so it must be an ASSIGNED Line haul unit you're operating, and that Line Haul driver is the one that drove it all night. It's his responsibility to do with it as necessary or not. As it goes for topping off the fluids, just pass it off to your yardman there in Ellenwood, so he can do his job, just like when you climb your stinking backside out of that road unit after doing your peddle run, and leave it with less than 3/4 tank of fuel, your garbage, pro books, pick up sheets, etc, that YOUR LAZY ASS left behind for that Road Driver. Make sure you smear some dirt on the scratch you put on the fender, & lose the DVIR book so no one can connect you to the missing ash tray, cigar lighter or damage. It works both ways!! :fingure:
This couldn't be more correct! My assigned unit has MY name and employee # on the paperwork packet. City drivers have beat the **** out of it from every side. They have busted numerous mirror caps off on tree limbs, yanked the rear cross member out of it because they haven't got the brains to dump the bags when the drop out, and have scrapped the fender and bumper numerous times. But my favorite happened recently. My unit was damaged in an accident of which I wasn't at fault. I had lost it for nearly a month while it was in the shop for various reasons. The day it came out of the shop, a city driver drove it and damaged everything that had been repaired before, plus some new damage. I never got to see it fixed, just a bunch of bent up new parts. Did he write it up? Hell no, because that's how city drivers are. They don't give a damn. They'll trash another one tomorrow. As for the clean windshield - I clean them nightly before I leave as part of my pretrip. I'll be damned if I'm going to clean them after the 457 miles and couple of hours on the dock that I do nightly on my bid for an unappreciative city driver that most likely is going to leave all of his damn trash in my truck! We need each other to move freight, and should try to get along. If people want to play the blame game though, I have a list two miles long from terminals all over the system that I have compiled over the years. I believe bid trucks should have a secondary assigned driver. One truck - two drivers. Period. That way any problems can be resolved between the two of them and nobody else, but it ain't my circus.
 
Did he write it up? Hell no, because that's how city drivers are. They don't give a damn. They'll trash another one tomorrow.
Wow. I'm happy that you got that rant off your chest. Just one problem with it, you are really painting the city drivers with a pretty broad brush when your comments seem to include ALL city drivers as douche bags.

We need each other to move freight, and should try to get along.
But you posted a rant like the one above that divides the city away from line haul? WTF?

When I read these divisive posts, it makes it perfectly clear why the Union has zero power nowadays. Strength is in numbers, not being divided against each other. And from what I read, there is no strength within the union anymore because the freight employees can't even agree that the sky is blue.

Go ahead.......stay divided.......and continue to sink into irrelevance.

Don't think for a second that the non-union drivers don't see and hear this kind of divisiveness that comes from the union members. Who would want to be part of that?

Just sayin'.....
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Wow. I'm happy that you got that rant off your chest. Just one problem with it, you are really painting the city drivers with a pretty broad brush when your comments seem to include ALL city drivers as douche bags. Ok. I'll own up to the fact that I was somewhat stereotyping city drivers, and for that I'll apologize. I've met some great guys and have several friends that are/were city drivers. However, I will not totally withdraw my statement because it was written about personal experiences. But you're right. To a good hand, it would be offensive. It also was in response to the way linehaul drivers leave their assigned tractors for the city drivers, lumping all linehaul drivers together

But you posted a rant like the one above that divides the city away from line haul? WTF?

When I read these divisive posts, it makes it perfectly clear why the Union has zero power nowadays. Strength is in numbers, not being divided against each other. And from what I read, there is no strength within the union anymore because the freight employees can't even agree that the sky is blue.

Go ahead.......stay divided.......and continue to sink into irrelevance.

Don't think for a second that the non-union drivers don't see and hear this kind of divisiveness that comes from the union members. Who would want to be part of that?

Just sayin'.....
:coffee1:
 
Wow. I'm happy that you got that rant off your chest. Just one problem with it, you are really painting the city drivers with a pretty broad brush when your comments seem to include ALL city drivers as douche bags. Ok. I'll own up to the fact that I was somewhat stereotyping city drivers, and for that I'll apologize. I've met some great guys and have several friends that are/were city drivers. However, I will not totally withdraw my statement because it was written about personal experiences. But you're right. To a good hand, it would be offensive. It also was in response to the way linehaul drivers leave their assigned tractors for the city drivers, lumping all linehaul drivers together. I keep my truck clean on the inside and it has a nice stereo and CB for the city drivers to use if they wish. It also has a trash bag that I prefer to be used, rather than fast food bags and water bottles everywhere. As for the division between linehaul/city causing weakness of the union - the union selling us out time and time again and not standing up for us when we really need them. These MOUs have been a joke, especially the last one. We voted it down. No means no! But that's a whol different can of worms.

But you posted a rant like the one above that divides the city away from line haul? WTF?

When I read these divisive posts, it makes it perfectly clear why the Union has zero power nowadays. Strength is in numbers, not being divided against each other. And from what I read, there is no strength within the union anymore because the freight employees can't even agree that the sky is blue.

Go ahead.......stay divided.......and continue to sink into irrelevance.

Don't think for a second that the non-union drivers don't see and hear this kind of divisiveness that comes from the union members. Who would want to be part of that?

Just sayin'.....
:coffee1:
 
Talked to the guys that drive these Petes. They like them and say they are getting close to the promised 10 MPG. However the trucks barely run 61 mph according to gps, even though the speedometer shows 63. Nice try Paccar
 
Talked to the guys that drive these Petes. They like them and say they are getting close to the promised 10 MPG. However the trucks barely run 61 mph according to gps, even though the speedometer shows 63. Nice try Paccar
This isn't Paccar's fault. This is who sat down with the sales reps on how to set the parameters of the ECM. Are they powered by Paccar engines, and if so what liter displacement?
 
Wow. I'm happy that you got that rant off your chest. Just one problem with it, you are really painting the city drivers with a pretty broad brush when your comments seem to include ALL city drivers as douche bags.

But you posted a rant like the one above that divides the city away from line haul? WTF?

When I read these divisive posts, it makes it perfectly clear why the Union has zero power nowadays. Strength is in numbers, not being divided against each other. And from what I read, there is no strength within the union anymore because the freight employees can't even agree that the sky is blue.

Go ahead.......stay divided.......and continue to sink into irrelevance.

Don't think for a second that the non-union drivers don't see and hear this kind of divisiveness that comes from the union members. Who would want to be part of that?

Just sayin'.....
:coffee1:
I hear what your saying, but I've also seen the same comments from them on here...... There will always be anamosity between the two!!
 
OK STUPID, here's your lesson for TODAY. I've been in this business for 36 1/2 years, starting as an O/O, got hired by a company AFTER transporting a high $$$ load for them many years ago, WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS across a frozen ocean and ice roads. As it goes for driving, I have accumulated over 5 MILLION ACCIDENT FREE miles,(3 of those under the YRC Banner) without putting a scratch on ANY UNIT I've driven. My last stint before coming to Holland was with my own piece of equipment, under MY OWN Authority, which I still have, and I made money in a down market with just 1 piece of equipment. As it goes for the name on the registration and ownership, I still retain 2000 shares of YRC, so I AM THE GOD DAMNED owner! I do EVERYTHING a city dog does, including linehauling it from terminal to terminal. You city boys think you're the bomb, but truth be known, a good road man can do the same job BETTER and more efficiently! !:fingure:
DAMN FBALLS WHY WOULD YOU EVEN COME WORK FOR YRCW WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THIS GREAT EXPERIENCE AND CAN MAKE ALL KINDS OF MONEY WITH ONE PC OF EQUIPMENT!! I BET YOU WEAR DRIVING GLOVES AND HAVE ONE OF THOSE BIG BAD GEAR SHIFTS THAT HAVE A SKULL LIGHT UP AND CHROME LUGZ NUTS ALL BOUGHT WITH YOUR PILOT REWARDS POINTS! YOUR A REAL BILLY BIG RIGGER PROBABLY 7TH GENERATION SUPER TRUCKER. I PREFER TO CALL GUYS LIKE YOU LOCKER ROOM LAWYERS OR ::shit:: HOUSE ATTORNEYS. WHEN I HEAR OR READ THIS ::shit:: YOU SPEW IT TELLS ME WHO THE YES MEN ARE. SO GO OUT AND KNOCK EM DEAD DRIVER.
 
We are getting a bunch of 17's in right now this week and next week I think about seven in total. I have heard guys saying that there are going to be another batch of new trucks yet this year, has anyone else heard anything about it? I was also wondering about those Panasonic am fm radios for the new trucks. I heard if you tell them your truck number that big Freightliner dealer down from the motel in St. Louis will sell you one for 121 dollars and no sales tax if you are a Holland driver. Has anyone found them any cheaper anywhere or anything that works better? Thanks!
 
Talked to the guys that drive these Petes. They like them and say they are getting close to the promised 10 MPG. However the trucks barely run 61 mph according to gps, even though the speedometer shows 63. Nice try Paccar
It has to make you wonder if management has a clue that once the Elogs start taking effect that if you have a 61 mile an hour truck you are going to be lucky to average maybe 56 or 57 mph if you don't have snow. You are going to be lucky to make 615 to 620 a night before you use up your hours, those nights of 650 to 670 are going to be long gone. I guess when actually moving freight promptly is way down the list of priorities these sort of things really are unimportant to them?
 
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