XPO | Are there any DSRs still doing FOS jobs?

The original question : Are any DSRs still "filling in" for FOSs ? Yes , they are apparently. I don't know this but I would bet that the drivers that fill in aren't sent through any extra training. How many drivers that fill in eventually decide to become a FOS ? While there are questions about money , to most drivers it would be a pay cut. Taken from the Con-Way Freight website for a Field Management Trainee - Description of Essential Job Functions:

Participate in a 13 week management training program, working all shifts including days, evenings, nights and weekends, learning details of how to effectively and efficiently lead team members at one of our service centers
Communicate effectively with your trainers, facilitator and Region Manager.
Complete assignments on-time.
Meet weekly goals and objectives.
Safely walk & stand for extended periods of time on a loading dock that is not climate-controlled and may be slippery.
Ability to lift up to 50 pounds frequently and greater than 75 lbs. occasionally
Safely climb in and out of a tractor cab & trailer.
Safely walk, reach (including above your head), bend, climb, push, pull, twist, squat & kneel as necessary to perform the job duties.
Master the skills necessary to receive, unload, load, ship and track our freight
Take initiative to learn Con-way operations through the use of online learning, reading, observing and working side by side several of our managers as well as dock workers and drivers
Track and organize freight, manpower and trucks; Organize the logistics operations to run as effectively, efficiently and as safely as possible, maximizing time and profitability
Assist manage a team of 10-30 people, being the go to person at one of our service centers
Directly interface with our customers to process orders, troubleshoot and solve problems.
Prompt, daily attendance at assigned work location.
Perform other duties as assigned.

Qualifications

BS/BA degree (equivalent military or other work experience may substitute).
Transportation/Distribution/Logistics degree programs preferred.
Willing to relocate for future opportunities.
Aptitude for front line supervisory positions and operations management.
Take responsibility for decisions and actions.
Demonstrate the ability to lead and motivate others.
Strong written and verbal communication skills, with ability to organize and present information.
Time management skills.
Strong work ethic/stable work history.
Industry experience is a plus.
Proficiency in Microsoft Office Suite (Excel, Word, and Outlook).


That's the FMT program. A driver wanting to upgrade to FOS wouldn't go through that.
 
You don't think so? How many dayline and nightline drivers make 85-100k? They bring the average way up. If your in the south you may not believe that but in the west and North City drivers make good money working 60 hours a week when 20 hours are overtime.


You have to remember a lot of drivers are not at top pay. I would think the average is closer to $60,000. Still more than the average FOS.

And 60 hour weeks are not the norm for city drivers, though it happens on occasion.
 
23.55 x 40 = 942.00
35.325 x 10 = 353.25
942.00 + 353.25 = 1295.25
1295.25 x 52 = 67,353.00

50 a week is very common. And a linehaul makes more. And the bottom feeders, like me, make less an hour. But we work more. They bring us in early. And then we get hung out on the FAC and get off late. I haven't had a problem making 70K working here. Despite my wage being so much lower.
 
With the changes in pay , are the FOS's still set to make less money than the average driver?


For now. Wait until the whole electronic log starts into us. Already losing 30 minutes a night. And the city guys seem to still be getting less OT. If it ever gets to where drivers are out on their 8, management will pass them with the bonus. A driver will make more per week but less per year. Until the software catches up and instead of having to get some manager to set up your door, you instant message some one in China and they authorize for it to be set up for you. The closer you are to the freight, the safer your job is. XPO will continue to trim head count. Control production with pay incentives and technology.
 
For now. Wait until the whole electronic log starts into us. Already losing 30 minutes a night. And the city guys seem to still be getting less OT. If it ever gets to where drivers are out on their 8, management will pass them with the bonus. A driver will make more per week but less per year. Until the software catches up and instead of having to get some manager to set up your door, you instant message some one in China and they authorize for it to be set up for you. The closer you are to the freight, the safer your job is. XPO will continue to trim head count. Control production with pay incentives and technology.
I agree. When internet was down at our location the phones were routed elsewhere and the FOS went there and dispatched. Dispatching can easily be centralized - our competitors already do it.
 
I never said I was an FOS. I started out at 900 a week. FOS's get a 10% bonus if we meet 100% of goal. We won't know what percent we get untill after 4th quarter earnings are released. If I had to guess an average City DSR makes about 55-60k. And with a max payout of 150% based off my 900 a week that comes to 53920 total pay.
FOS gets 10%, drivers get 1%, thats a motivational problem for me
 
FOS gets 10%, drivers get 1%, thats a motivational problem for me
FOS and FOM have so much more influence on how profitable we are than drivers. They put the plans together, assign routes, manage hours etc. They deserve a bigger bonus. I make plenty of money whether we hit bonus or not.
 
For now. Wait until the whole electronic log starts into us. Already losing 30 minutes a night. And the city guys seem to still be getting less OT. If it ever gets to where drivers are out on their 8, management will pass them with the bonus. A driver will make more per week but less per year. Until the software catches up and instead of having to get some manager to set up your door, you instant message some one in China and they authorize for it to be set up for you. The closer you are to the freight, the safer your job is. XPO will continue to trim head count. Control production with pay incentives and technology.
Its not like the old days before the handhelds, when we used manifests and bills for everything. Now the drivers do 80% of the paper work on their handhelds. Dispatchers do very little now, except monitor the their numbers and watch drivers on their screens.
 
That's the FMT program. A driver wanting to upgrade to FOS wouldn't go through that.
Four years ago, i was told the only way to get into an FOS position was through the FMT program.

So I did.

When I started the FMT program I was making 925 a week- with the promise of being able to negotiate my salary when I graduate.

I went through 12 weeks of training at Ann Arbor. Funny thing about that training was that I was one of 2 DSRs in the class, I was also one of the oldest; I was 27 at the time.

Once I graduated, I got my assigned to my new terminal (most DOO's are against drivers becoming FOSes at the terminal they started at). I walked into my new SCMs office in hopes of getting a salary comparable to my DSR pay (city of course). He told me that FMTs fresh out of the program get an extra 100 a week on their salary and that's it.

Those extra 100 bucks put me at 1025.00 a week. My first bonus was 1200 bucks because I started in July. The following year, I got a whopping 11 dollar a week raise. 1036.00 a week. Plus a bonus that was around 4000.00.

I left in 2014 making 1036.00 a week.
 
FOS gets 10%, drivers get 1%, thats a motivational problem for me
Being an FOS, DSR, or SCM should not matter in the least for a bonus. One flat rate percentage bonus is the only "FAIR" approach to motivating your labor force. As different titles are compensated at different salaries. So higher positions get a larger bonus with the same bonus rate percentage, quite simple mathematics. Anything less than that is a morale destroyer and incredibly divisive. From what I am witnessing, morale has gone backwards even further after this bonus plan announcement was released to the workforce. So in conclusion, I believe MK is 100% correct in their observation and opinion.
 
Management usually gets a raise at the beginning of June. So far this year I've been told they haven't received one yet.
 
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