What's new

XPO | Group of XPO workers, labor officials to gather in protest of company practices

Teamsters L200 said:
if you have done any research on the subject of Central States Pension Fund you would know that no "Union Leaders" stole a dime. The reason for its troubled state is multi faceted. The federal government itself has had the fund under trusteeship since the mid 80's and sat by idly as the fund declined. Numerous employers that filed bankruptcy and didnt pay the withdrawl liability, and the federal bankruptcy courts didnt award the fund money during liquidation of those companies caused the lack of funding that it suffers from today. Those are only a couple of the issues that damaged the fund.
Click to expand...
They don't have to do any research just throw accusations out there and see where it goes that's the Conway
.
 
yrc-atm said:
They dont. But no company would enter into it, is what he is saying.
Click to expand...

What say would the company have? And you'd be crazy not to think the union would do it's best to funnel any newly organized groups into CSPF. If and when it fails, that will be the death knell for unionization in the freight industry.
 
So all you have is CSPF as ammo? I would ask myself if i was you how about my health insurance or dont you care about outstanding medical insurance for you and your family at no cost or little cost to you.Not to mention rights in your work place is that not important to you.
 
Teamsters L200 said:
So all you have is CSPF as ammo? I would ask myself if i was you how about my health insurance or dont you care about outstanding medical insurance for you and your family at no cost or little cost to you.Not to mention rights in your work place is that not important to you.
Click to expand...


People have brought up much more than just the CSPF. Although, it is a big glaring undeniable fact that the union will not keep it's promises any different than the company won't. The union will protect you so long as it benefits them.

Your union immunity to Obamacare is not without limit. You guys will be paying for health care plenty soon enough.

We all have rights in the work place. There is no slavery. And with all the $15 minimum wages and the proliferation of recording devices you must be nuts to think we are still in the 1800's. Every damn thing is a lawsuit.

You continue to use the same tired sales pitch that has lead to the union's downfall. Answer one question, how can the union benefit me ? My recent favorite line points to the crux of the problem. It's not Teamsters any more, it's Me-sters.

Kinda like the way you guys decided it would be okay to crap all over the new hires. That's a great way to start a guy off into his union journey. We get all of this and you never will. All for one and one for me.

And keep voting for those concessions. You guys keep showing us how strong and united you are every time you tuck tail and bow to the corporate will. Them CEOs got some awfully nice raises off your -15%.

Do you even realize how terrible you are ? We can see you. You can't fool us.
 
Songremainsthesame said:
Right like the leadership woin.ldn't try to coerce then into CSPF, just like they didn't give away the last 2 contracts and MOU extension. The union only represents their own interests, not the rank and file.
Click to expand...
No actually the new members would have a choice on what fund they want to participate in.Hopefully everyone involved would be up to snuff on which fund to stay out of
 
highspeds said:
People have brought up much more than just the CSPF. Although, it is a big glaring undeniable fact that the union will not keep it's promises any different than the company won't. The union will protect you so long as it benefits them.

Your union immunity to Obamacare is not without limit. You guys will be paying for health care plenty soon enough.

We all have rights in the work place. There is no slavery. And with all the $15 minimum wages and the proliferation of recording devices you must be nuts to think we are still in the 1800's. Every damn thing is a lawsuit.

You continue to use the same tired sales pitch that has lead to the union's downfall. Answer one question, how can the union benefit me ? My recent favorite line points to the crux of the problem. It's not Teamsters any more, it's Me-sters.

Kinda like the way you guys decided it would be okay to crap all over the new hires. That's a great way to start a guy off into his union journey. We get all of this and you never will. All for one and one for me.

And keep voting for those concessions. You guys keep showing us how strong and united you are every time you tuck tail and bow to the corporate will. Them CEOs got some awfully nice raises off your -15%.

Do you even realize how terrible you are ? We can see you. You can't fool us.
Click to expand...
Albeit you see it from the outside looking in.I was actually a participant in both MOU 2014 VOTES.It was criminal how the Union Administration forced the second vote through.Alot of illegal stuff went down on the second vote.So yes in essence of what you said about letting the Union snowball us you would be somewhat correct.Of course it would be different for you all and even the other unionized company employees aren't doing too shabby.Better than you and I at this juncture
 
Fly-by-night said:
Well the company could no longer meet there demands. TNT RED STAR.

What I don't get is why do the teamster always what it's members to vote Democrat? I could never understand why a organization like the teamster would stand behind and vote for a party the put teamster pres in jail (Hoffa). The dem party did everything to break up the unions. Then Pres. Carter signed the Motor Carrier Act of 1980 which deregulated the trucking industry. Then next came Obama with Obamacare that the unions praised until they found out that the unions had to follow the law just like everyone else. I can't forget about the first black president bill Clinton the one who sign the Northern American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) IN 1993 and now their scratching there head wandering why union job are leaving this country. So you ask me how the teamster have been talking us out of jobs here are some prime example they have been doing for year by tell their member who to veto for.
Click to expand...
Could very well be that the Teamsters learned a valuable lesson from all the things you mentioned and this is a major wake up call.If you would like to level the playing field on politics lets look at the republicans: strong on union busting anti social security (republicans wanted to kill off social security from the moment FDR signed it) ,wanted to kill off medicare , pro right to work which means the freeloader employees must by law get all the union benefits with out paying nothing well the real employee pay their monthly dues, no minimum wage . To make a long story short the republicans have always fought anything that might help the average working guy and always supported big money interested. Do the democrats suck? Hell ya they do but not as much as republicans . Deregulation would have been instituted any how by some republican by now. Republican don't believe in regulation let business do what ever they want . The republicans support all these bad trade deals NAFTA and now the TPP a real job killer .BTW I always thought that Clinton was more of a liberal republican .
 
White said:
And Reagan "fired" the pilots thereby reducing the effectiveness of the threat of "striking" for future generations. I am a little young to opinionate on the 80's so I apologize if this is not accurate but that's how I remember it.
Click to expand...
Reagan did not fire the pilots ,he fired the air traffic controllers because they struck over safety issues . Over worked , stress, fatigue and other issues that could effect the safety of controlling air planes . Reagan never did address or investigate the complaints he rather fire the people involved . Sorry I voted for him .
 
Cab Lizzard said:
Con-Way,OD and Fred-X in my area are told not to talk to union drivers by their management.
Click to expand...
That is true , when FedEx Freight started out one of our drivers went to a Fed X Frt. terminal to pick up freight that FedEx freight couldn't handle and the supervisor gave our driver instructions he is not to speak to the dock men that was loading him .
 
Pup Driver said:
Reagan did not fire the pilots ,he fired the air traffic controllers because they struck over safety issues . Over worked , stress, fatigue and other issues that could effect the safety of controlling air planes . Reagan never did address or investigate the complaints he rather fire the people involved . Sorry I voted for him .
Click to expand...

My point was, in response to this:
30yearman said:
The Teamsters have always supported both parties, maybe not to the same extent. They want to say I supported you now you can help me not unlike most every corporation in America. The Teamsters endorsed Ronald Reagan when he ran.
Click to expand...

that the Teamsters have been weak for quite some time. I have many posts on many boards outlining my distaste for my former union. They seem to be as worthwhile as any other politicians. Ineffective, save padding their own pockets. A little young (again) to remember the players in passing NAFTA, but I'm sure the Teamsters put money into more than one proponents wallet.
 
Pup Driver said:
That is true , when FedEx Freight started out one of our drivers went to a Fed X Frt. terminal to pick up freight that FedEx freight couldn't handle and the supervisor gave our driver instructions he is not to speak to the dock men that was loading him .
Click to expand...

Not picking on you, but the following thought has crossed my mind: What is the procedure when Non U FXF linehaul runs to a U terminal? I assume (via rumor, as I don't work for FXF) linehaul works freight & you can't have non U working @ a U shop. Gotta be weird.
 
Pup Driver said:
Could very well be that the Teamsters learned a valuable lesson from all the things you mentioned and this is a major wake up call.If you would like to level the playing field on politics lets look at the republicans: strong on union busting anti social security (republicans wanted to kill off social security from the moment FDR signed it) ,wanted to kill off medicare , pro right to work which means the freeloader employees must by law get all the union benefits with out paying nothing well the real employee pay their monthly dues, no minimum wage . To make a long story short the republicans have always fought anything that might help the average working guy and always supported big money interested. Do the democrats suck? Hell ya they do but not as much as republicans . Deregulation would have been instituted any how by some republican by now. Republican don't believe in regulation let business do what ever they want . The republicans support all these bad trade deals NAFTA and now the TPP a real job killer .BTW I always thought that Clinton was more of a liberal republican .
Click to expand...
I will not argue that a lot of the Republican elite are extreme globalists but most conservatives are not. I understand your arguments but I feel you are some what blind to the facts. Union bosses normally push their members to vote democratic and I really don't know why. The Democrats are for complete open borders. If it were not for this nations lax immigration enforcement there would be a ton more union tile setters, painters, carpenters, bricklayers, and just about every other trade you could think of and that point dove tails right In to your thoughts on a minimum wage. Most service sector jobs would pay more if the market were not flooded with cheap immigrant labor. When I say service sector I'm talking about the jobs that used to allow you to live a comfortable middle class life, trucking,the construction trades, etc. The minimum wage should be for teenagers working fast food not people performing skilled or semi skilled labor but because of 30 million illegals working cheaply now the rest of us have to fight for a decent pay check. As far as your thoughts on free trade,. Clinton signed it and the dems are just as much on board as elite Republicans with the Trans Pacific partnership just like they were with NAFTA. Last, I don't know a single Republican running on ending social security or Medicare, that's just fear mongering. The fact is that both are already broke and if we ever see any of those benefits it will be on the backs of our kids.
My friend if you closely looked at the issues, based on your previous thoughts, you would find yourself supporting Donald Trump. He's is against unfair trade agreements that hinder our ability to compete, he said he wants to strengthen SS and Medicare, and he wants to shut down illegal immigration, which would be a boom for the working man.
Sounds like your a Donald Trump supporter to me. Just go ahead and come out
 
Teamsters L200 said:
So all you have is CSPF as ammo? I would ask myself if i was you how about my health insurance or dont you care about outstanding medical insurance for you and your family at no cost or little cost to you.Not to mention rights in your work place is that not important to you.
Click to expand...

How about talking about wages, vacations, or equipment. Take out UPS and what do the other union boys offer....
 
ssadab said:
How about talking about wages, vacations, or equipment. Take out UPS and what do the other union boys offer....
Click to expand...
At ABF 7% was restored as of 7/1/16 they put 12,000+ per year into my pension ( I'm not in cspf) top of the line health coverage (no contribution toward it) they just bought 650 new tractors & I don't know the #s on trailers & but I see a lot of new ones. The loss of the weeks vacation blows & is hurting them in attracting new drivers. Other then that they don't ride you like most places.
 
GO40 said:
At ABF 7% was restored as of 7/1/16 they put 12,000+ per year into my pension ( I'm not in cspf) top of the line health coverage (no contribution toward it) they just bought 650 new tractors & I don't know the #s on trailers & but I see a lot of new ones. The loss of the weeks vacation blows & is hurting them in attracting new drivers. Other then that they don't ride you like most places.
Click to expand...
I'm thinkin' that's not what he wanted to hear.
 
Maltman said:
I will not argue that a lot of the Republican elite are extreme globalists but most conservatives are not. I understand your arguments but I feel you are some what blind to the facts. Union bosses normally push their members to vote democratic and I really don't know why. The Democrats are for complete open borders. If it were not for this nations lax immigration enforcement there would be a ton more union tile setters, painters, carpenters, bricklayers, and just about every other trade you could think of and that point dove tails right In to your thoughts on a minimum wage. Most service sector jobs would pay more if the market were not flooded with cheap immigrant labor. When I say service sector I'm talking about the jobs that used to allow you to live a comfortable middle class life, trucking,the construction trades, etc. The minimum wage should be for teenagers working fast food not people performing skilled or semi skilled labor but because of 30 million illegals working cheaply now the rest of us have to fight for a decent pay check. As far as your thoughts on free trade,. Clinton signed it and the dems are just as much on board as elite Republicans with the Trans Pacific partnership just like they were with NAFTA. Last, I don't know a single Republican running on ending social security or Medicare, that's just fear mongering. The fact is that both are already broke and if we ever see any of those benefits it will be on the backs of our kids.
My friend if you closely looked at the issues, based on your previous thoughts, you would find yourself supporting Donald Trump. He's is against unfair trade agreements that hinder our ability to compete, he said he wants to strengthen SS and Medicare, and he wants to shut down illegal immigration, which would be a boom for the working man.
Sounds like your a Donald Trump supporter to me. Just go ahead and come out
Click to expand...
The union boss's know that the republicans are against the unions, always was and always be . They also know that the democrats won't be as hard on labor . I know there are democrats that are also union busters . As far as Trump goes ,yeah he knows what bottoms to push and a lot he says I agree with but Trump is still big business and when he says he'll make America better what he really means he'll make the lives if million and billion airs better . He already said he is in favor of right to work though the country .
 
GO40 said:
At ABF 7% was restored as of 7/1/16 they put 12,000+ per year into my pension ( I'm not in cspf) top of the line health coverage (no contribution toward it) they just bought 650 new tractors & I don't know the #s on trailers & but I see a lot of new ones. The loss of the weeks vacation blows & is hurting them in attracting new drivers. Other then that they don't ride you like most places.
Click to expand...
2 years for 1 week of vacation. If your contract was so great why cant you get new drivers...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top