Dissolve and disperse central states pension fund now !

Do you want what's yours from Central States ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 85.2%
  • No

    Votes: 9 14.8%

  • Total voters
    61
Yup, first downturn in the stock market and they'll say CSPF lost way to much to continue. While we're worried about 10 years the bankers and and the rest of the crooks are bleeding the fund for all they can get. AND THEY STILL WILL NOT LIFT THE WORK RESTRICTIONS!
 
It really doesn't matter. All retired guys come first and I Agree with that. Something has to be done if nothing else. There is no doubt somebody is going to be screwed in this deal. I'm sure it's going to be the non-retired that have 20 years in that will take the major hit if nothing is done. Let's hope something happens and let's hope that more Teamsters make a move to protect our money! I'm one of those guys that are going to get screwed. I'm 41 years old and doesn't have a lot saved for retirement. At least I have some time to figure something else out. I feel sorry for the guys there six years old that don't have any other option.
 
I assume you meant 60, not 6? That's me, (62) except I left. I'd take half to preserve the fund in a heartbeat. Otherwise I see it being full for a couple years for me- then nothing for either you or me...
 
Over 54,000 looks, 480 replies, and over 85 0/0 of the votes are in favor of shutting this fiasco down.

We need to know, but they wont tell us so we can make a educated decision.

Exactly how much would each and everyone get if split by years of service?
It is ridiculous to even think about a split of equal portions for all.

How much are they stealing from our retirement each day to keep CSPF open?

Remember money in your hand is yours, the HOPE is that the retirees will be paid for 10 years.
That's what they want you to believe so we fight amongst ourselves.

I remember when I started it was 25 and out, we believed, now look where we are.

Get it now or wait until it's gone and GET NOTHING ...I choose NOW

Do you ever stop and think before you make a post like this? You say "Over 54,000 looks, 480 replies, and over 85 0/0 of the votes are in favor of shutting this fiasco down."

That's 54,000 looks and yet only 28 votes! That's 480 replies and yet only 28 votes! And that's 82% of only 28 votes!

Did you ever think that the reason so many didn't even bother to vote is because they realize just how ridiculous and useless the vote actually is? Why vote on something that doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of ever occurring in the first place?

You need to know what now so you can make an educated decision? After all, I see what kind of educated decisions that you make. You take over 54,000 looks, 480 replies, and the percentage of only 28 votes and make an educated opinion that everybody is in favor of shutting it down. Just how ridiculous is that?

All I can say is that you picked out a good screen name for yourself because you will end up with nothing with that attitude and lack of plain old common sense.

Here's something that you can now ponder on. Just why do you suppose there were 54,000 looks on this thread of 480 replies? Just how many members of those 480 replies were actually speaking out in favor of shutting the CSPF down? Then come back here and post just how ridiculous your educated opinion on this issue was. Here's a hint of what I based my educated decision on, the 54,000 looks were from the argument that pursued from those 480 replies which only a handful of members were actually speaking out in favor of shutting the CSPF down.
 
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I assume you meant 60, not 6? That's me, (62) except I left. I'd take half to preserve the fund in a heartbeat. Otherwise I see it being full for a couple years for me- then nothing for either you or me...
Lol yes, 6 would be a bit young for retirement!
 
Do you ever stop and think before you make a post like this? You say "Over 54,000 looks, 480 replies, and over 85 0/0 of the votes are in favor of shutting this fiasco down."

That's 54,000 looks and yet only 28 votes! That's 480 replies and yet only 28 votes! And that's 82% of only 28 votes!

Did you ever think that the reason so many didn't even bother to vote is because they realize just how ridiculous and useless the vote actually is? Why vote on something that doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of ever occurring in the first place?

You need to know what now so you can make an educated decision? After all, I see what kind of educated decisions that you make. You take over 54,000 looks, 480 replies, and the percentage of only 28 votes and make an educated opinion that everybody is in favor of shutting it down. Just how ridiculous is that?

All I can say is that you picked out a good screen name for yourself because you will end up with nothing with that attitude and lack of plain old common sense.

Here's something that you can now ponder on. Just why do you suppose there were 54,000 looks on this thread of 480 replies? Just how many members of those 480 replies were actually speaking out in favor of shutting the CSPF down? Then come back here and post just how ridiculous your educated opinion on this issue was. Here's a hint of what I based my educated decision on, the 54,000 looks were from the argument that pursued from those 480 replies which only a handful of members were actually speaking out in favor of shutting the CSPF down.
:crybaby: still crying like a baby huh fool.
 
:crybaby: still crying like a baby huh fool.


Well, if it isn't the scab, rat Teamster Steward coming back to roost. Tell me, did you rat any more of our union Brothers out yet? How about telling all the Brothers at your barn just who you are on here, did you do that yet? That answer would be no, seeing that you do all your crying from the closet, isn't that right rat?

I know how limited you are when it comes to adding meaningful dialogue but I'll ask anyway. Do you have anything more to contribute to this conversation besides acting like a spoiled young punk?
 
Well, if it isn't the scab, rat Teamster Steward coming back to roost. Tell me, did you rat any more of our union Brothers out yet? How about telling all the Brothers at your barn just who you are on here, did you do that yet? That answer would be no, seeing that you do all your crying from the closet, isn't that right rat?

I know how limited you are when it comes to adding meaningful dialogue but I'll ask anyway. Do you have anything more to contribute to this conversation besides acting like a spoiled young punk?
As I recall you were the one ratting out Teamsters on here. But nonetheless. I have been just admiring your stupidity from afar. Your constant bullying, crying like a little 8 year old girl, and utter ignorance on how you are being used by politicians in an election year. You arent a fool. You're a *****. And the politicians are your pimp. You are going to get pimp slapped in November, *****. And I will be laughing at you the whole time
 
As I recall you were the one ratting out Teamsters on here. But nonetheless. I have been just admiring your stupidity from afar. Your constant bullying, crying like a little 8 year old girl, and utter ignorance on how you are being used by politicians in an election year. You arent a fool. You're a :censored:. And the politicians are your pimp. You are going to get pimp slapped in November, :censored:. And I will be laughing at you the whole time

It looks as though your recalling abilities are just as poor as your verbal skills. You would have to admire things from afar, like all little sneaky rats do. Try and stay with me here and don't be taking another one of your hissy fits and start using cuss words again. Weren't you ever taught that swearing is a sign of a weak mind trying to express itself? What, does swearing make you feel all big and powerful instead of all weak and insecure?

Now, like I told you before, do you have anything meaningful to add or not? How about standing up and acting like a man for once instead of a foul mouthed little brat stomping around because he didn't get his way.
 
It looks as though your recalling abilities are just as poor as your verbal skills. You would have to admire things from afar, like all little sneaky rats do. Try and stay with me here and don't be taking another one of your hissy fits and start using cuss words again. Weren't you ever taught that swearing is a sign of a weak mind trying to express itself? What, does swearing make you feel all big and powerful instead of all weak and insecure?

Now, like I told you before, do you have anything meaningful to add or not? How about standing up and acting like a man for once instead of a foul mouthed little brat stomping around because he didn't get his way.
For whatever reason it censored the word hore (with a w) didnt know that was a cuss word but oh well. You are pretty thin skinned for a truck driver. Dont like swearing? Tough ::shit::. As far as me adding anything to the thread, I told you. Shut the fund down! You dont like to hear that? Again, tough ::shit::. Now go back to bullying the other posters who dont agree with you, to me you aint ::shit::.
 
For whatever reason it censored the word hore (with a w) didnt know that was a cuss word but oh well. You are pretty thin skinned for a truck driver. Dont like swearing? Tough :::shit:::. As far as me adding anything to the thread, I told you. Shut the fund down! You dont like to hear that? Again, tough :::shit:::. Now go back to bullying the other posters who dont agree with you, to me you aint :::shit:::.


Trust me, swearing doesn't bother me one bit. It actually puts a smile on my face because it's a last desperate attempt of a whipped puppy dog trying to save what little dignity he has left after all else fails when trying to prove their point in an argument. The problem is that you're just not smart enough to realize that fact. Please...if you feel you must, swear away little whipped puppy dog.

I can't see why you are one that's whining and crying the most out of all of them when it comes to shutting it down anyway. After all, for years you have been, currently and probably always will be only contributing 25% into the fund. Or is that the reason, you want it shut down now after you know that you're hurting the fund even more by your measly dimes that you contribute. You know that you're part of the problem, that's why you want to run away now. You can try and act like a tough guy all you want but you and I both know better.

Now, if you don't want to fight for the pension rights, fine, but at least try and stay out of the way of the men who are not afraid to stand up and fight for their pension rights. Here's a suggestion, just stay in the closet, that's a good place for your kind. A man that doesn't pay his bills then cries and whines when he stops getting service. Like I told you before, if you are a union Steward, you should be ashamed of yourself and resign! And I'm sure that the majority of the Brothers in your barn would feel the same as me if they knew how you were acting on this forum. Tell me, why aren't you crying about getting all your dues money back that you have paid in over the years too? Hell, if you're going to quit one thing, you just might as well quit everything. Once a quitter, always a quitter.
 
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many smaller funds have gone bankrupt and the pbgc has taken them over. those of you who are fighting to keep your full pensions, why do you think you are more deserving of the tax payers money than those of already bankrupt pension funds?
 
many smaller funds have gone bankrupt and the pbgc has taken them over. those of you who are fighting to keep your full pensions, why do you think you are more deserving of the tax payers money than those of already bankrupt pension funds?

Here you go again, either don't understand or don't want to understand the difference between restitution and a bailout. It helps to know what you're talking about when you enter a discussion. The problem and fighting isn't about being more deserving than those of already bankrupt pension funds. If you would of been paying attention instead of pretending to know it all, you would know that. It's about the new law that allows the pension fund to be cut at will without the fund even going bankrupt. Why do you think that the government stepped in and made that new law anyway? Because they knew that their own insurer couldn't back up a fund as big as Central States. It's all about the banking institution and the government screwing the working class and some people just don't like getting screwed with. The problem is, the fund getting to screw the working class while still being kept alive to keep on screwing them. It's basically giving the Wall Street bankers and the fund administrator a license to steal. The government doesn't give a crap about the Wall Street bankers screwing the working class, just as long as they don't have to bail them out. This way, the governments own PBGC keeps getting their hefty fees from the funds without ever having to worry about having to pay the funds members. They have actually found a way to have their cake and eat it too. So, you see, none of those people who are fighting for their full pensions think they are more deserving than anyone. They don't like having the rules changed to benefit the bureaucracy and the Wall Street thieves while the working class gets screwed. It's also about not letting the Wall Street bankers getting away with the looting of the pension fund, at least not without a fight, anyway.
 
i needed a HUDEPOHL after reading that! How do you keep a child quiet, give them a cookie. How do you keep 400,000 cspf teamsters quiet during the upcoming election year, give them their G.A.O. audit and a glass of milk. Did the wall street bankers rip off the Teamsters 707 and 469 pension also?
 
i needed a HUDEPOHL after reading that! How do you keep a child quiet, give them a cookie. How do you keep 400,000 cspf teamsters quiet during the upcoming election year, give them their G.A.O. audit and a glass of milk. Did the wall street bankers rip off the Teamsters 707 and 469 pension also?


What do you give a spoiled little brat whose sole purpose is to disrupt a forum and automatically criticizes 400,000 CSPF Teamsters without even knowing what the fight is all about? But that's easy for you, isn't it? Knowing how you lied on your profile just because you were so afraid of anyone finding out who you really are. And you actually took a hissy fit because I had the nerve to peep inside your profile and found you out to be a liar. You actually blamed me for you being a liar. Just how sad you are.

I bet that you need a beer for just about everything you do in life. It makes it possible for you to face life and people, doesn't it?
 
The beauty of this site is we all can say what we think.
Say what you need to, you have nothing I can't handle.
There is no need to try and push people around because they disagree with you.
The selfish feel they should come first and screw the rest.
We have all had it, no one comes first, we are all in this together, years of service will dictate your share. If there is anything left.
With 30 plus years paid in, it's time to move on.
Good luck........
 
The beauty of this site is we all can say what we think.
Say what you need to, you have nothing I can't handle.
There is no need to try and push people around because they disagree with you.
The selfish feel they should come first and screw the rest.
We have all had it, no one comes first, we are all in this together, years of service will dictate your share. If there is anything left.
With 30 plus years paid in, it's time to move on.
Good luck........

Just how do you call that pushing someone around? That thread I quoted you on was just my way of stating that you were trying to make it look as if most of those 54,000 who viewed this thread were agreeing with the title of this thread. You also tried to imply that since it had 480 replies that most are for putting an end to the fund like you and some others on here. Then you also stated the percentage instead of the actual votes because that sounded like just so many more members than the actual low number of 23. I know that 85% sounds so much better when your trying to prove a point.

You can try and pin the blame on the ones fighting to save the pensions all you want...but don't sit there and cry about being pushed around when someone disagrees with you and gives you a piece of their mind. I don't know where you come from but where I come from if someone calls you selfish, you got a confrontation on your hands. After all, just like you, I'm saying what I think.
 
CSPF is a black hole. SHUT IT DOWN AND DISBURSE THE FUNDS!

The post of one of the most nonsensical members on the forum. A kid with a foul mouth that speaks from ignorance instead of knowledge. What's the matter kid, can't even confront me with a quote now? Is this what you have been reduced to, having to rely putting in digs from afar? Like I told you before, once the cursing begins then ends, all that's left is a whipped puppy dog. And here you are, a union Steward, you are a disgrace to all Stewards around the nation. Are you proud of yourself now?
 
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