Holland | Who is underperforming?

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During the Q&A portion of the YRCW 2nd quarter earnings call the question was asked to Welsh why and which regional carrier was effecting the o/r in a negative way? Of course he wouldn't single out the carrier. Any ideas? In case you don't know the o/r went from 92 to 93.
 
Are we supposed to feel bad? With the clueless management we have they are lucky it is still that low. Did they give a number for YRC? just curious.
 
If anyone is underperforming it's probably NPME. Apparently after the performance bonus you guys got, letters were sent out to the employees there saying that they got the bonus on the backs of Holland and Reddaway and they needed to do better.

I can't speak for why that'd be, only that they got letters.
 
I read the name of the topic and I was afraid someone was talking to my wife!

With all the improvements they are doing at the terminals I don't think we have to worry about any profit sharing this year, it almost like what can we **** away some money on just to make sure that never happens again!
 
With all the improvements they are doing at the terminals I don't think we have to worry about any profit sharing this year, it almost like what can we **** away some money on just to make sure that never happens again!
Yep, they made a big mistake wasting their money on the lowly drivers and dockworkers who make their operations run. They'll patch holes in the driveways before they let that happen again.
 
If anyone is underperforming it's probably NPME. Apparently after the performance bonus you guys got, letters were sent out to the employees there saying that they got the bonus on the backs of Holland and Reddaway and they needed to do better.

I can't speak for why that'd be, only that they got letters.
Yes we did get the letters. But were told the other day we are improving.. Accidents and injuries were the big problems..Both are down..
 
If anyone is underperforming it's probably NPME. Apparently after the performance bonus you guys got, letters were sent out to the employees there saying that they got the bonus on the backs of Holland and Reddaway and they needed to do better.

I can't speak for why that'd be, only that they got letters.
NPME claims that comp is down, I can tell you they have plenty of freight. The biggest issue at NPME are equipment and man power to move the freight.
 
I know with this MOU all the YRC companies struggle to get people to fill the jobs but I think NP as a company feels the shortage of people the most because they are basically supposed to be a next day carrier. If they can't deliver it next day there are plenty who will. We have plenty of freight but I think the next day freight pays a little better.
 
We have plenty of freight but I think the next day freight pays a little better.
There was a day when New Penn had the shipping world by the balls, I don't think it's quite like that anymore. They had a lot of things going for them that played into the mix that made them very profitable. All of their freight was next day in a world where they were about the only ones who could guarantee that and they got a premium for it. They did not stack freight in their trailers so they were easier and faster to load and unload and damages were kept to a minimum. They offered discounts based on tonnage and if a customer's tonnage dropped so did their discount so there was an incentive to ship stuff New Penn that really didn't need to go New Penn. They could also demand payment faster than any others and that equated to less money on the street vs income and thus a better OR. If I was a long time New Penn driver I would have the worst of attitudes with all that has happened to them.
 
There was a day when New Penn had the shipping world by the balls, I don't think it's quite like that anymore. They had a lot of things going for them that played into the mix that made them very profitable. All of their freight was next day in a world where they were about the only ones who could guarantee that and they got a premium for it. They did not stack freight in their trailers so they were easier and faster to load and unload and damages were kept to a minimum. They offered discounts based on tonnage and if a customer's tonnage dropped so did their discount so there was an incentive to ship stuff New Penn that really didn't need to go New Penn. They could also demand payment faster than any others and that equated to less money on the street vs income and thus a better OR. If I was a long time New Penn driver I would have the worst of attitudes with all that has happened to them.
Very well said. Been there 25 years. I questioned the stack and pack mentality going on now. And was told the revenue is not not there to justify putting 22 pallets on the floor and sending it out the door. Now cube a 53' that goes an average of 250 miles up the road and take 3 hours to strip. And in-experienced dock guys,and it is a recipe for disaster.
 
There was a day when New Penn had the shipping world by the balls, I don't think it's quite like that anymore. They had a lot of things going for them that played into the mix that made them very profitable. All of their freight was next day in a world where they were about the only ones who could guarantee that and they got a premium for it. They did not stack freight in their trailers so they were easier and faster to load and unload and damages were kept to a minimum. They offered discounts based on tonnage and if a customer's tonnage dropped so did their discount so there was an incentive to ship stuff New Penn that really didn't need to go New Penn. They could also demand payment faster than any others and that equated to less money on the street vs income and thus a better OR. If I was a long time New Penn driver I would have the worst of attitudes with all that has happened to them.
Sounds like holland and new penn has something in common.
 
Very well said. Been there 25 years. I questioned the stack and pack mentality going on now. And was told the revenue is not not there to justify putting 22 pallets on the floor and sending it out the door. Now cube a 53' that goes an average of 250 miles up the road and take 3 hours to strip. And in-experienced dock guys,and it is a recipe for disaster.
When you question them their attitude is "it's the new way"
 
with what rainman said about revenue not there, with 22 pallets and send it, and 250 miles average run, they do this crap for 92 miles from #03 t0 #10, 70 miles from#03 to #02. road driver sat at #03 for hour and half cause there was room for one skid on reading load going 70 miles and we run at least 4 a night. guess that made that load of freight profitable . #10 sent #16 freight 10 skids I believe, guaranteed time, freight to #03, emptys went to #16 out of #10. by time freight was stripped in #03 and loaded again, one they missed guarantee in pittsburg, so I guess it was free. plus now handleing freight at least twice more and with our new freight handelers that in itself could destroy the freight thus no profit at all. last Friday 6 skids out of#16 to #21 went to #03 only to be handeled once again, twice, and and extra 250 miles to get to #21, past delivering terminal and back. can anyone please explain how all this extra handeling and extra miles running this freight needlessly up and down the interstate, now makes this freight profitable???? as far as under performing, anybody long time at npme knows just how badly we operate on day to day basis any more, its why this new group of clowns fired just about everybody that was npme in the last year. its the yrc number game, look how yrc feright keeps getting better but the regionals are going opposite way. yrc doesn't want any elite fleets, they want us all to be disfuntional.
 
Yep, they made a big mistake wasting their money on the lowly drivers and dockworkers who make their operations run. They'll patch holes in the driveways before they let that happen again.
Are you in management just pretending to be a driver? It sure sounds like you have the company line down pat!
 
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