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Fly-by-night said:
And the union agreed to it and let the company do it.
Was it a concession back to the company to screw the new guys as long as the ones there get what they want.
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It was a contract not a concession, everyone got screwed out of a weeks vacation! Now it's hurting them finding good qualified drivers, I think that will be changed next contract if there is one....
 
upnorth said:
Thanks. The argument sure seems regional to me.
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It's easy for you to dismiss the OT issue due to the fact it doesn't affect you. If it is a regional issue, let's take the northern states the SAIA, OD, and other non union carriers service and quit paying our CCX boys OT. It's not about regions, it's about fairness. When I was a CSE employee, we were separate companies, now we are under one umbrella. The difference is that SAIA and OD treat their drivers the SAME across the board in regards to OT pay.
 
GO40 said:
Ya who cares about that stupid thing called retirement & paying your bills, as long as your tractors is nice & shiny ....
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My pension was frozen along with everyone else- they made it very clear what you had to do with a 401k to secure retirement and I did what they told me to do. My retirement looks pretty good, and no one can touch it but me. As for the bills, my bills get paid on time and there's enough left over to have fun every once in a while and even put my kids in private school. All that, AND I have a shiny tractor.

Your financial future is not the responsibility of the company, and it sure as hell shouldn't be the responsibility of the Teamsters.
 
I wonder... When we had an active pension , how much did it cost the company per quarter to maintain?

I wonder... If XPO Logistics were to provide fully paid for healthcare , exactly how much would it cost compared to what's provided now?
 
Serene Gene said:
My pension was frozen along with everyone else- they made it very clear what you had to do with a 401k to secure retirement and I did what they told me to do. My retirement looks pretty good, and no one can touch it but me. As for the bills, my bills get paid on time and there's enough left over to have fun every once in a while and even put my kids in private school. All that, AND I have a shiny tractor.

Your financial future is not the responsibility of the company, and it sure as hell shouldn't be the responsibility of the Teamsters.
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Serene Gene said:
My pension was frozen along with everyone else- they made it very clear what you had to do with a 401k to secure retirement and I did what they told me to do. My retirement looks pretty good, and no one can touch it but me. As for the bills, my bills get paid on time and there's enough left over to have fun every once in a while and even put my kids in private school. All that, AND I have a shiny tractor.

Your financial future is not the responsibility of the company, and it sure as hell shouldn't be the responsibility of the Teamsters.
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Good for you Gene but not everyone is in the same boat as you. Never said it was the teamsters responsibility ,but why not have both A company pension & a 401k, as for the shiny tractor I will take overtime any day over that....
 
smokin'joe said:
It's easy for you to dismiss the OT issue due to the fact it doesn't affect you. If it is a regional issue, let's take the northern states the SAIA, OD, and other non union carriers service and quit paying our CCX boys OT. It's not about regions, it's about fairness. When I was a CSE employee, we were separate companies, now we are under one umbrella. The difference is that SAIA and OD treat their drivers the SAME across the board in regards to OT pay.
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Didn't mean to come off as dismissive.
 
upnorth said:
Didn't mean to come off as dismissive.
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It's just seems that there are many drivers that benefit from OT after 8 on here that almost take the company's side with their refusal to treat us equally. At the end of the day, it does not matter what other truck lines do so much as it does what OUR company does. Your check won't change if they paid us the same OT rate as everyone else, so I don't why this is even up for debate. I know that if the roles we reversed, my southern boys would be the first to call bs bs. Regional this, regional that is pure bs...we have places down here with costs of living that are just as high if not higher than some places up there. I know I'd be rooting for my fellow drivers to get OT the same as me if the shoe was on the other foot, not worrying about what their "region" demands.
 
GO40 said:
Good for you Gene but not everyone is in the same boat as you.
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And it has nothing to do with whether or not we get overtime.

GO40 said:
Never said it was the teamsters responsibility
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Isn't that what this entire thread is about? Bringing in the muscle to get us what we deserve?

GO40 said:
why not have both A company pension & a 401k
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I do have both.

Look, that's some serious cash you're talking about. What are you willing to give up? You going to pay for your uniforms? Pay a ton of money out of pocket for your healthcare? Give up a week or two of vacation? Drive junk? Lose a few dollars per hour? Or do you think the company just has millions of extra dollars they can commit to spending on wages? Hint: They don't, or they probably would.

smokin'joe said:
It's just seems that there are many drivers that benefit from OT after 8 on here that almost take the company's side with their refusal to treat us equally.
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Again, "fair" and "equal" are not the same thing. I think the company has done a decent job of explaining the difference in pay scales, but if you're obsessed with fairness and equality and not focusing on being secure in what you already have, you're never going to be happy no matter how much you get.
 
Again, "fair" and "equal" are not the same thing. I think the company has done a decent job of explaining the difference in pay scales, but if you're obsessed with fairness and equality and not focusing on being secure in what you already have, you're never going to be happy no matter how much you get.

Hourly pay is one thing.....the way OT is paid is another. One's location doesn't determine his or her worth after 8 hours.
 
Serene Gene said:
And it has nothing to do with whether or not we get overtime.



Isn't that what this entire thread is about? Bringing in the muscle to get us what we deserve?



I do have both.

Look, that's some serious cash you're talking about. What are you willing to give up? You going to pay for your uniforms? Pay a ton of money out of pocket for your healthcare? Give up a week or two of vacation? Drive junk? Lose a few dollars per hour? Or do you think the company just has millions of extra dollars they can commit to spending on wages? Hint: They don't, or they probably would.



Again, "fair" and "equal" are not the same thing. I think the company has done a decent job of explaining the difference in pay scales, but if you're obsessed with fairness and equality and not focusing on being secure in what you already have, you're never going to be happy no matter how much you get.
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You seem to be talking in circles, your replays don't Match what I posted....
 
Fly-by-night said:
Here is my take on this on the guy in the video. If you go back to before Con-way back to the CCX, CSE, and what every other ones there were. They all had different pay scales, pay rates, and overtime, I heard as many as 25 different one across this country. The reason they don't get overtime in the south is because that the way it was back before all these different companies merged into Con-way. I now hear that we are down to 5 different pay scales and this has to do with were your barn located. As for the guy in the video I has to say they why did you stay for 16yrs? This is the same for all jobs. Over the years companies have moved to lower labor cost just like the gun industry has moved with the change of states laws.

It's based on location and demand. If I drive less than 1 mile from my barn I can make $1.50/ hr more, but then overtime is after 50hrs


Sorry to say but that's they way it works. Why does a lawyer cost more in Chicago than in Topeka? I can go on with different jobs. It's all about location


What I don't get is why now. The stories I hear about how you driver were treated back then and had did nothing? The way drivers are treated now vs back then is a total 180. The reason the union did nothing back then was all the companies that were union. When I worked for American Freightways we never even seen a union man at our barn until CF closed. When CF closed about one month later they can and passed out fliers. Go look in the boneyard how many LTL companies in there were union?
Do I believe our pay and benefits are what they should be? no. but will a union fix that I not sure. That why we have this thread.
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If the company is charging the same rates across the country they should pay the employees the same. If their paying the employee less they should charge less, IMO.
 
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