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Cab Lizzard said:
Could this be one of the reason's that you can not view a company's CSA score anymore ?
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http://fleetowner.com/regulations/fmcsa-removes-csa-scores-public-view

"As of Dec. 4, 2015, pursuant to the FAST Act of 2015, much of the information previously available on the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration’s (FMCSA) website related to property carrier’s compliance and safety performance will no longer be displayed publicly.

While the agency is not prohibited from displaying all of the data, no information will be available for property carriers while appropriate changes are made. This also applies to information provided to the public through the QCMobile app."

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http://www.overdriveonline.com/dot-...idden-for-two-years-pending-required-changes/
 
GO40 said:
When Conway (xpo) took you 5% what was that called? & they still have it. I voted no that's all I could do, but at least it was voted not taken....
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For your info.... Conway DID give back the 5% of pay per hour. What was NOT given back was part of the 401k that they took. Up to 3% match portion (They...now known as XPO still put in 4%) for me based on my years of service.
 
smokin'joe said:
It's just seems that there are many drivers that benefit from OT after 8 on here that almost take the company's side with their refusal to treat us equally. At the end of the day, it does not matter what other truck lines do so much as it does what OUR company does. Your check won't change if they paid us the same OT rate as everyone else, so I don't why this is even up for debate. I know that if the roles we reversed, my southern boys would be the first to call bs bs. Regional this, regional that is pure bs...we have places down here with costs of living that are just as high if not higher than some places up there. I know I'd be rooting for my fellow drivers to get OT the same as me if the shoe was on the other foot, not worrying about what their "region" demands.
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As a line haul driver I never get paid OT. And I work well over 8 hours a night. Where is my " equality " ?
 
pops11359 said:
No fair and equal are not the same thing, but your not a bunch of separate companies now with different pay scales or rules, haven't been for a while, your all the same company, and if 1 region receives OT shouldn't all regions receive OT? Shouldn't all employees be treated the same regardless of what area of the country they live in. Can understand difference in pay scales due to the area with higher cost, but not everyone being treated the same as it pertains to OT.
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This argument is a mess. The now dead Con-way was merged into one company. But had different pay scales based on local laws and regional competitive balance or whatever. Californians have completely different labor laws than the rest of the country. What they get in compensation is not the same as the rest of us based on where they live. Canadians have completely different labor laws. What they get in compensation is completely different from the rest of us, based on where they live.

Well, now it is all apart of XPO. So should everyone that works anywhere at XPO be compensated exactly the same ? Regardless of where in the world that they live ?
 
I personally wish we were all paid the same. So they would stop routing around us and my terminal would have more runs. You guys get more work because it makes good business sense.
 
highspeeds said:
As a line haul driver I never get paid OT. And I work well over 8 hours a night. Where is my " equality " ?
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Lame argument...you are paid the same as a road driver wherever you live mileage for this and hourly for that ...you can do better than that. Plus as a road driver, your 14 and my 14 are way apart so there is no equality there either.
 
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highspeeds said:
This argument is a mess. The now dead Con-way was merged into one company. But had different pay scales based on local laws and regional competitive balance or whatever. Californians have completely different labor laws than the rest of the country. What they get in compensation is not the same as the rest of us based on where they live. Canadians have completely different labor laws. What they get in compensation is completely different from the rest of us, based on where they live.

Well, now it is all apart of XPO. So should everyone that works anywhere at XPO be compensated exactly the same ? Regardless of where in the world that they live ?
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I agree the hourly rate should vary depending on cost of living, but the OT should be the same basic rule for all. My effort after 8 is just as valuable as the next guy's....or theirs is worth after 50 what mine is worth.
 
highspeeds said:
I personally wish we were all paid the same. So they would stop routing around us and my terminal would have more runs. You guys get more work because it makes good business sense.
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I wonder what terminal you work at. Hmmm. And your comment about "equality" in being a LH driver? That was a weak response. Obviously LH drivers are compensated at a higher rate but getting OT isn't part of that.

Of course I agree with you about different wages for different parts of the country. There is no doubt in my mind the terminal manager of XFM probably makes the same amount of money as a senior FOS in California. Or the terminal manager of XON make less than an FOM in XCV. I bet all the DOOs make way different amounts of money. Same goes for different companies. Same goes for different industries.
 
Perma-bull said:
I wonder what terminal you work at. Hmmm. And your comment about "equality" in being a LH driver? That was a weak response. Obviously LH drivers are compensated at a higher rate but getting OT isn't part of that.

Of course I agree with you about different wages for different parts of the country. There is no doubt in my mind the terminal manager of XFM probably makes the same amount of money as a senior FOS in California. Or the terminal manager of XON make less than an FOM in XCV. I bet all the DOOs make way different amounts of money. Same goes for different companies. Same goes for different industries.
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I have seen a (back in the day CCX) driver who couldn't have more than 8 consecutive hours on a 265 between drop and hook at the FAC or he would get OT and his boss wouldn't be happy. He had a very short run and usually turned a double, but every now and only a single.
 
Fly-by-night said:
You need the big barn to go first. The end of the line and small barns have to watch there step he can always just close them
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Unions are a waste of time I was a teamster for 9 years went through two contracts went on strike and lost more benefits lost retirement and while on strike the teamsters were suppose to pay us so much a week that was included in dues but didn't see a fine in 4 months on the street. Going union is asking for trouble.
 
highspeeds said:
Strongly disagree that the teamsters are setting the standard in LTL. This isn't 30 years ago. Benefits are not what they were 30 years ago.

OD leads by an amazing low operating ratio. FedEx leads by volume and revenue. They both get paid better than I do.
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They make less than us in TN.
 
icuicp said:
I don't and can't speak for other LTLs , but personally I'm suspicious of most numbers that our company generates. As new ownership turns the screws on Service Center Managers , FOMs , FOSs , etc. they find ways to manipulate their numbers and "beat" the system.

As far as if you were in a union shop and not being able to jump around to different jobs : it goes both ways - instead of bouncing around fron job to job there would be MORE work in your job classification because only you or someone in the same classification could do that job. Theoretically. With good union leadership and a contracts. And supervision by the union over the company.
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With that said LH would only get paid to drive and drop and hook or they might not get drop and hook pay like those union carriers in our area and no dock time. That would take a lot of $$$$ out of that check and you might only get mileage pay.
 
highspeeds said:
This argument is a mess. The now dead Con-way was merged into one company. But had different pay scales based on local laws and regional competitive balance or whatever. Californians have completely different labor laws than the rest of the country. What they get in compensation is not the same as the rest of us based on where they live. Canadians have completely different labor laws. What they get in compensation is completely different from the rest of us, based on where they live.

Well, now it is all apart of XPO. So should everyone that works anywhere at XPO be compensated exactly the same ? Regardless of where in the world that they live ?
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I thought they were talking about over time pay, my bad.
 
smokin'joe said:
I agree the hourly rate should vary depending on cost of living, but the OT should be the same basic rule for all. My effort after 8 is just as valuable as the next guy's....or theirs is worth after 50 what mine is worth.
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That doesn't make any sense. Regional pay is regional pay, whether it's a higher hourly rate or regional OT. How can you support one and not the other?

And no, your effort is not as valuable if you work in the south. It's not a personal evaluation, it's economics.
 
Serene Gene said:
And no, your effort is not as valuable if you work in the south. It's not a personal evaluation, it's economics.
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You are so wrong. You think any mans time doing the same job as you is worth less? Its not economics, its BS. The laws that allow trucking companies to STEAL from their hourly employees by not paying OT after 8 or 40 need to be changed. I am ashamed that our company doesn't do it. Whats right is right. If XPO were to stop paying us OT, I would be leading the charge to organize my place. Every barn in the south should rise.
 
radman said:
You are so wrong. You think any mans time doing the same job as you is worth less? Its not economics, its BS. The laws that allow trucking companies to STEAL from their hourly employees by not paying OT after 8 or 40 need to be changed. I am ashamed that our company doesn't do it. Whats right is right. If XPO were to stop paying us OT, I would be leading the charge to organize my place. Every barn in the south should rise.
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Without taking a side , I'll ask this question: FedEx pays overtime after 8 and after 40 in the Southern region ( to my understanding ) XPO Logistics doesn't - do you think XPO Logistics rates are drastically cheaper for lanes in the South than FedEx's because they don't pay traditional overtime?

P.S. - Our CEO Bradley Jacobs seems really proud of the fact we are number 1 or close to it in our major lines of business. Shouldn't we lead in pay and benefits?

"We’re No. 1, or close to No. 1, in all of our major businesses,” XPO Chief Executive Bradley Jacobs said in an interview.
 
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Serene Gene said:
That doesn't make any sense. Regional pay is regional pay, whether it's a higher hourly rate or regional OT. How can you support one and not the other?

And no, your effort is not as valuable if you work in the south. It's not a personal evaluation, it's economics.
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It's federal law that hourly employees where I live are paid OT after 40 hours at a minimum. Trucking side skirt the issue because they CAN. If you say it's economical to not pay it in the south, why isn't it economical to not pay everywhere where's not a state law in place requiring it? That's economics. The idea that I'm asked to stay past the 8th hour and are not compensated while others unnecessarily are is absurd. We were given after 50 OT to just shut up. Some folks may not realize how easy it is to be screwed off of after 40 or after 50....flex guys at my place get burned on 4-12 hour days then are assigned a road run on the 5th. Serene Gene I may be wrong, but I also assume you aren't my neighbor either, residing somewhere other than the glorious south. At least we have tastier food down here.....:05.18 flustered:
 
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