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And speaking of spending money.. Chaps my rearend the company spends a few bucks, all the guys complaining at these trucker appreciation feeds, eating up their food, drinks, etc... stop eating their appreciation food, drinking their drinks, etc.... go to work, work, etc... they don't appreciate you!!!! re: pay, vacation? wirting up, running around, linehaul jobs to UE? Its a gesture not appreciation... don't participate, fair days pay for a fair days work.
 
ABFer said:
I don't know if money changed hands for it or not but Hoffa has proven to be as worthless as they get. We may as well not even have a union here. He'd better be worried about national right to work, I wouldn't pay for what I'm getting.
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I'll tell you how you know you are in a union company. Look at your take home pay. It's about 1/3 more than mine
 
[QUOTEhomesick, post: 1098373, member: 14321"]ABF is open 7 days a week and linehaul is on a 6 day work week. How many days a week do you work?[/QUOTE]

If I had it all to do over, my 5 years at ABF would've been spent on the local side. No amount of money made that ::shit:: okay.
 
iam4us said:
And speaking of spending money.. Chaps my rearend the company spends a few bucks, all the guys complaining at these trucker appreciation feeds, eating up their food, drinks, etc... stop eating their appreciation food, drinking their drinks, etc.... go to work, work, etc... they don't appreciate you!!!! re: pay, vacation? wirting up, running around, linehaul jobs to UE? Its a gesture not appreciation... don't participate, fair days pay for a fair days work.
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Exactly.
 
My $0.02 on unionizing, from what I've learned and seen, is that the Teamsters as a union are not offering much to their members. That being said, believing that a truck driver must be a member of the Teamsters to be in a union is wrong, backwards thinking. The Teamsters don't care about the truck drivers among them anymore because they derive much of their membership nowadays from other sources.

The biggest truck driver's union in Canada is, surprisingly, not the Teamsters. It's Unifor, the result of a union merger that included the Canadian Auto Workers. The CAW brought many truckers with them to Unifor, including drivers from Reimer Express Lines, TST Overland Express, Canadian Freightways and Kingsway Transport. These four carriers represent most of Canada's unionized truckers, with a comparative handful in the Teamsters who represent only UPS across the country. They also represent the above four in regions (like British Columbia) where there are no CAW/Unifor locals.

Interestingly, the Teamsters actually tried to go to court against the CAW to argue that they should be the sole representative union for TST Overland Express cross-country. The CAW fought for their members and won.

So in my opinion, a truck driver looking to unionize should carefully choose which union they want to represent them. My vote would go to the UAW if I was American, if I'm honest.
 
LTLAnonymous said:
[QUOTEhomesick, post: 1098373, member: 14321"]ABF is open 7 days a week and linehaul is on a 6 day work week. How many days a week do you work?
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If I had it all to do over, my 5 years at ABF would've been spent on the local side. No amount of money made that :::shit::: okay.[/QUOTE]
Strange how different opinions are. I'd never go back to p&d. To each his own.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
My $0.02 on unionizing, from what I've learned and seen, is that the Teamsters as a union are not offering much to their members. That being said, believing that a truck driver must be a member of the Teamsters to be in a union is wrong, backwards thinking. The Teamsters don't care about the truck drivers among them anymore because they derive much of their membership nowadays from other sources.

The biggest truck driver's union in Canada is, surprisingly, not the Teamsters. It's Unifor, the result of a union merger that included the Canadian Auto Workers. The CAW brought many truckers with them to Unifor, including drivers from Reimer Express Lines, TST Overland Express, Canadian Freightways and Kingsway Transport. These four carriers represent most of Canada's unionized truckers, with a comparative handful in the Teamsters who represent only UPS across the country. They also represent the above four in regions (like British Columbia) where there are no CAW/Unifor locals.

Interestingly, the Teamsters actually tried to go to court against the CAW to argue that they should be the sole representative union for TST Overland Express cross-country. The CAW fought for their members and won.

So in my opinion, a truck driver looking to unionize should carefully choose which union they want to represent them. My vote would go to the UAW if I was American, if I'm honest.
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Comparing unions in the USA to Canada is apples and oranges. After hourly or mileage compensation everything else changes due to healthcare in each country. I live 10 minutes from Canada and know many Canadian drivers.
 
sabresfan said:
Comparing unions in the USA to Canada is apples and oranges. After hourly or mileage compensation everything else changes due to healthcare in each country. I live 10 minutes from Canada and know many Canadian drivers.
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While that's true (which is why unions are less prevalent here) I was merely giving an example. To blindly embrace the Teamsters just because they're "the trucker's union" is a foolish choice, in my opinion.
 
SAC75 said:
If I had it all to do over, my 5 years at ABF would've been spent on the local side. No amount of money made that ::::shit:::: okay.
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Strange how different opinions are. I'd never go back to p&d. To each his own.[/QUOTE]

My major complaint was never being home. The money and benefits were fine, I just could never hold a bid in 5 years. Got old being on call constantly.
 
Canadian Flyer said:
While that's true (which is why unions are less prevalent here) I was merely giving an example. To blindly embrace the Teamsters just because they're "the trucker's union" is a foolish choice, in my opinion.
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Very true. Most Americans do not pay attention to these things. I lived in NC for 13 years and was always told I was from NYC which is 7 hours away. I could be in WV or VA by then coming from Buffalo.
 
LTLAnonymous said:
[QUOTEhomesick, post: 1098373, member: 14321"]ABF is open 7 days a week and linehaul is on a 6 day work week. How many days a week do you work?
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If I had it all to do over, my 5 years at ABF would've been spent on the local side. No amount of money made that :::shit::: okay.[/QUOTE]

I'm with you brother, if I could do it over again I would have spent the last 15.5 years doing P&D.
 
iam4us said:
And speaking of spending money.. Chaps my rearend the company spends a few bucks, all the guys complaining at these trucker appreciation feeds, eating up their food, drinks, etc... stop eating their appreciation food, drinking their drinks, etc.... go to work, work, etc... they don't appreciate you!!!! re: pay, vacation? wirting up, running around, linehaul jobs to UE? Its a gesture not appreciation... don't participate, fair days pay for a fair days work.
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I would be headed to the Roadway break room at lunch time, and there would be the terminal manager and the salesman with the barbecue fired up, and they would yell, Hey mud what do you want on your burger. My reply would be, sorry I brought my own lunch.
 
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