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Serene Gene said:
That doesn't make sense. There's no difference between paying OT earlier in a different region and paying a higher wage in a different region. It's the same mechanism. They have to pay more in central region to be competitive for labor, and they have to pay OT earlier for the same reason. And yes, unions have a lot to do with it.

You can argue that we should all be on the same wage and OT schedule if you want, but you can't sit there and say the wage is fair but the OT isn't.[/QUOTE

Through out the northeast, ...forget that, through out the entire system drivers hourly wages differ. I never insinuated that the hourly wages were fair or unfair but the truth is, the difference in hourly wages between service centers probably should be a little closer with one another, its another whole issue. In many cases service centers within 50 or 60 miles of one another vary in hourly pay. Some of that has to do with the labor pool available when there is a need to hire...and often that difference in hourly wage seems to make no sense what so ever. Have been told it has very little to do with what it cost in one area to live vs another. As far as OT, the same nationwide unionized carriers "teamsters" are in the south, the same as the rest of the country. They all have the same OT schedule. Fedex has the same OT schedule nationwide. There are plenty of our competitors that pay no OT at all across their system. The point is whatever their OT schedule is, its uniform across their systems. We haven't been classified as different regional companies in years, we've been one entity for quite a while now. Whatever our OT schedule is... or should be, it should be uniform across the system. Yes, unions certainly had something to do with this years ago, but now, given the reduction in many union companies and the overall strength of the teamsters compared to years ago, its doubtful this is a contributing factor now. Its more like something that just never changed.
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JstBlendinIN said:
Work just as many hours if not more and get paid less.....Never once have I heard a reasonable reason for this, just sarcasm ..."if you don't like it move" We all pay the same for our medical and dental benefits, why are we not paid the same OT system wide? A driver in the south works 52 hrs... another driver anywhere else in the system works 52 hours.....one gets paid 2 hours OT the other gets paid 12 hours OT. Its time to bring this policy more inline system wide.
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sign those union cards
 
Through out the northeast, ...forget that, through out the entire system drivers hourly wages differ. I never insinuated that the hourly wages were fair or unfair but the truth is, the difference in hourly wages between service centers probably should be a little closer with one another, its another whole issue. In many cases service centers within 50 or 60 miles of one another vary in hourly pay. Some of that has to do with the labor pool available when there is a need to hire...and often that difference in hourly wage seems to make no sense what so ever. Have been told it has very little to do with what it cost in one area to live vs another. As far as OT, the same nationwide unionized carriers "teamsters" are in the south, the same as the rest of the country. They all have the same OT schedule. Fedex has the same OT schedule nationwide. There are plenty of our competitors that pay no OT at all across their system. The point is whatever their OT schedule is, its uniform across their systems. We haven't been classified as different regional companies in years, we've been one entity for quite a while now. Whatever our OT schedule is... or should be, it should be uniform across the system. Yes, unions certainly had something to do with this years ago, but now, given the reduction in many union companies and the overall strength of the teamsters compared to years ago, its doubtful this is a contributing factor now. Its more like something that just never changed......please feel free to correct me if anything I said is not completely accurate.
 
Sleeper said:
We've been at 27.60 for a long time now, so my math is right. I'm in the NYC area, where are you?
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The reason why TSRs get a betterThe reason why TSRs get a better rate up in the Northeast or anywhere up north is maybe because you have to put up with the ice and snow on the drivers in the south. Probably not true but just speculation. The overtime after eight and 40 should be. The overtime after eight and 40 should be the same all country just my thoughts
 
vetran peddleman said:
The reason why TSRs get a betterThe reason why TSRs get a better rate up in the Northeast or anywhere up north is maybe because you have to put up with the ice and snow on the drivers in the south. Probably not true but just speculation. The overtime after eight and 40 should be. The overtime after eight and 40 should be the same all country just my thoughts
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They Have 4 different pay scales, (I think) and your pay rate is base on the barns location. I heard Fed-Ex does the same thing.
 
Serene Gene said:
That doesn't make sense. There's no difference between paying OT earlier in a different region and paying a higher wage in a different region. It's the same mechanism. They have to pay more in central region to be competitive for labor, and they have to pay OT earlier for the same reason. And yes, unions have a lot to do with it.

You can argue that we should all be on the same wage and OT schedule if you want, but you can't sit there and say the wage is fair but the OT isn't.
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I don't think it's the same mechanism. An hourly rate is justified by a reasonable cost of living where you reside. The payment of OT is justified by hours worked after 8 and or 40. I don't think it's an issue for the Chicago guy to make more per hour than I do. His OT rate would be comparable to where he lives, just as mine would be if I got it as well. The key is uniformity and I think we will continue to have problems until that is seen by all.
 
Fly-by-night said:
They Have 4 different pay scales, (I think) and your pay rate is base on the barns location. I heard Fed-Ex does the same thing.
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Yes, veteran's barn is 50 miles from me and their rate is about two bucks more an hour then mine. Market value. Why pay any more then you have to right?
 
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