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toilet paper said:
Is it just me or does "fly by night" post an awful lot of anti union stuff and his punctuation is always correct. Something smells fishy
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Just answering the mans question. Troubleman what to know where I got the stuff I said so I replied. Was I in a union shop? Yes 2 different one. Do I think we need a union here? No. In my eyes the unions have turn in the same thing everyone blaming company CEOs of being and that greedy. I have never posted on any other trucking company board, I may read then but never post. Yet we have a tons of outsides on ours. The outsiders say there here to set the record straight, but never say a word about their pensions. You google teamster and pension and that all you see, underfunded, reducing pay to retires. Its time you take control of your own life and finance
 
As long as he can keep the stock up, he keeps his job. Profits drop, exit stage right. The easiest & best way to keep profits up & the stock price up is to rid yourself of as much labor costs as you can. If he can manage to do that, he keeps his job. Simple rule of management, screw the worker so he can execute his stock options. Nothing has changed, but the name. von.
 
This loophole gives corporations incentive to give top executives massive bonuses that they can then turn around and deduct from their corporate revenue for tax purposes," said Teamsters General Secretary-Treasurer Ken Hall. "This loophole has played a large part in the current trend of ever-increasing excessive executive bonuses."
 
icedriver said:
The downfall started with deregulation. When carriers had to start providing good service, and the industry became competitive, union companies started falling.
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Don't forget the ability to discount rates, before then basically everyone had the same rates so competition was based on the old boys network and not much els
sucker666 said:
Just to let everyone know

Very well said. Quality of employees matters. It seem the mind set now is hire whoever and expect results.
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Yup, it always seemed that the company was only willing to make the minimum investment and expected maximum results.
 
Fly-by-night said:
Just answering the mans question. Troubleman what to know where I got the stuff I said so I replied. Was I in a union shop? Yes 2 different one. Do I think we need a union here? No. In my eyes the unions have turn in the same thing everyone blaming company CEOs of being and that greedy. I have never posted on any other trucking company board, I may read then but never post. Yet we have a tons of outsides on ours. The outsiders say there here to set the record straight, but never say a word about their pensions. You google teamster and pension and that all you see, underfunded, reducing pay to retires. Its time you take control of your own life and finance
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Great job removing punctuation and inserting improper grammar, the English department (⊙▃⊙)s will be all over you on that one...

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Fly-by-night said:
Just answering the mans question. Troubleman what to know where I got the stuff I said so I replied. Was I in a union shop? Yes 2 different one. Do I think we need a union here? No. In my eyes the unions have turn in the same thing everyone blaming company CEOs of being and that greedy. I have never posted on any other trucking company board, I may read then but never post. Yet we have a tons of outsides on ours. The outsiders say there here to set the record straight, but never say a word about their pensions. You google teamster and pension and that all you see, underfunded, reducing pay to retires. Its time you take control of your own life and finance
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You still don't get the message. Tha damn union just didn't give the company concessions. It was voted on by membership can't understand how you can't get that. To be in two previous union you sure didn't learn ::shit::.
 
Fly-by-night said:
Just answering the mans question. Troubleman what to know where I got the stuff I said so I replied. Was I in a union shop? Yes 2 different one. Do I think we need a union here? No. In my eyes the unions have turn in the same thing everyone blaming company CEOs of being and that greedy. I have never posted on any other trucking company board, I may read then but never post. Yet we have a tons of outsides on ours. The outsiders say there here to set the record straight, but never say a word about their pensions. You google teamster and pension and that all you see, underfunded, reducing pay to retires. Its time you take control of your own life and finance
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I'll tell you about my pension, I get a little over $3,300 a month and have been getting it for the last 9 years. The Western Conference of Teamsters Pension Trust has not cut anyone's benefit and there are no plans to do so. The Western Conference Teamsters Pension Trust is not underfunded and I doubt it will be in my lifetime.
 
troubleman84 said:
You still don't get the message. Tha damn union just didn't give the company concessions. It was voted on by membership can't understand how you can't get that. To be in two previous union you sure didn't learn :::shit:::.
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Is it still a vote when you have a gun to your head? The vote was to keep their jobs because if YRC filed for bankruptcy the ax was going to fall.
The one local I was in no longer exists.
 
30yearman said:
I'll tell you about my pension, I get a little over $3,300 a month and have been getting it for the last 9 years. The Western Conference of Teamsters Pension Trust has not cut anyone's benefit and there are no plans to do so. The Western Conference Teamsters Pension Trust is not underfunded and I doubt it will be in my lifetime.
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I glad to hear your pension is in good shape. Where I'm at most are underfunded
 
smokin'joe said:
Of course they do....No agenda at all.
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No side with a stake in the game is going to be completely truthful. IMO, people should gather as much factual information as they can. Once you know the facts you can apply those facts to you values and principles and vote accordingly.
 
30yearman said:
I'll tell you about my pension, I get a little over $3,300 a month and have been getting it for the last 9 years. The Western Conference of Teamsters Pension Trust has not cut anyone's benefit and there are no plans to do so. The Western Conference Teamsters Pension Trust is not underfunded and I doubt it will be in my lifetime.
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Just a thought. With Pension laws changing all the time, I bet they force merge the western conference in to CS to help support it. Now, probably illegal to do. But they passed a law in 2015 in congress allowing funds to pay less than promised. Just saying. von
 
"In June of 2011 this site was filled with organizing activity at a couple of our service centers. For those who were not watching or contributing at that time can do a quick forum search using "Columbus" and "Union" to find the activity from that discussion on this site. At that time the discussion of organizing on the Con-Way site was limited to those considered employees, all other discussions were sent to the Union vs Non-Union general sites... what changed?

When a company wants to evaluate the level of employee engagement within their ranks most hire a specialized third-party company to build a questionnaire for the employees to complete. The best of the third-parties look at years of service, age of employee, and job classification to create a profile for each employee. These elements are critical in determining the wants, needs, and beliefs of each employee. These same three personal elements are critical to the current organizing efforts. The change in our operating model that occurred in January created a ripple effect that caused the most dramatic change in the company culture ever experienced within our company. I think most agree that engagement among the drivers is at an all time low and while there are changes occurring, a collaborative leadership team would be / should be more involved with their employees.

Examine your individual service center and compare two groups of data;

1) In August of 2013 what was the average age, length of service in years, and job class for each hourly worker?

2) Currently (August 2014) what is the average age, length of service in years, and job class for each hourly worker?

It is important to understand that there are new employees, including some inexperienced, non-skilled workers that can determine your future within this company based on their ability to organize third-party representation. With three generations involved in our workplace it is also important to understand who are the "entitlement generation" individuals and how they look at life's challenges, goals, and achievements differently than you.

So if you believe a third-party's involvement in this company is needed, then do your home work. Research the efforts to organize Overnite Transportation, research pensions, research, research, research. Google "new union organizing strategies" to see if their visions for your future align with yours. Ask yourself what you want from a contract with your employer. Are your reasons for representation the same as your fellow worker? Organizers will ask the right questions to get the right answers for you to steer yourself to the conclusion that their way is a better way.

I had many years in the union with a previous employer. I worked with Overnite drivers daily during the organizing efforts that put union picketers in front of customer's entrances when the Overnite driver arrived. In 1994 I was considered a "****" as I did what I was paid to do, deliver and pickup freight. But striking drivers were allowed to operate trucks for other union carriers that were not on strike and those drivers were not *****... I failed to see the difference.

Whether you are in Texas or Indiana, from start to finish organizing really means negotiating. You will negotiate not only with your employer but also your fellow worker. You better have a clear focused understanding of your fellow employee's "best interests" and be ready to fight for yours. And, you are not organizing the company, you are organizing your facility. Do you believe a traditional pension is your goal?, think again and do the research, most will fail within ten years. Medical benefits and costs? Blame the government not your employer. I personally know Holland Freight drivers who retired and then had to go back to work for another carrier to continue benefits for their family. Contracts are changing in this ever-changing world. Stolen vacation?, I have never experienced any decline in the amount of time off determined by my years of service. We have and we continue to see change within the company Be careful how much of social change you blame on your employer. And, if you sign that card be sure it represents factual change opportunities regarding the relationship between you and your employer.

my opinion, please respect it as that and I will respect yours" - Merdock

Quote from Merdock out of this thread:
Con-Way and Union Organization Efforts

It seems to be well thought out and relevant regardless of what side you may be on.
 
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icuicp said:
"In June of 2011 this site was filled with organizing activity at a couple of our service centers. For those who were not watching or contributing at that time can do a quick forum search using "Columbus" and "Union" to find the activity from that discussion on this site. At that time the discussion of organizing on the Con-Way site was limited to those considered employees, all other discussions were sent to the Union vs Non-Union general sites... what changed?

When a company wants to evaluate the level of employee engagement within their ranks most hire a specialized third-party company to build a questionnaire for the employees to complete. The best of the third-parties look at years of service, age of employee, and job classification to create a profile for each employee. These elements are critical in determining the wants, needs, and beliefs of each employee. These same three personal elements are critical to the current organizing efforts. The change in our operating model that occurred in January created a ripple effect that caused the most dramatic change in the company culture ever experienced within our company. I think most agree that engagement among the drivers is at an all time low and while there are changes occurring, a collaborative leadership team would be / should be more involved with their employees.

Examine your individual service center and compare two groups of data;

1) In August of 2013 what was the average age, length of service in years, and job class for each hourly worker?

2) Currently (August 2014) what is the average age, length of service in years, and job class for each hourly worker?

It is important to understand that there are new employees, including some inexperienced, non-skilled workers that can determine your future within this company based on their ability to organize third-party representation. With three generations involved in our workplace it is also important to understand who are the "entitlement generation" individuals and how they look at life's challenges, goals, and achievements differently than you.

So if you believe a third-party's involvement in this company is needed, then do your home work. Research the efforts to organize Overnite Transportation, research pensions, research, research, research. Google "new union organizing strategies" to see if their visions for your future align with yours. Ask yourself what you want from a contract with your employer. Are your reasons for representation the same as your fellow worker? Organizers will ask the right questions to get the right answers for you to steer yourself to the conclusion that their way is a better way.

I had many years in the union with a previous employer. I worked with Overnite drivers daily during the organizing efforts that put union picketers in front of customer's entrances when the Overnite driver arrived. In 1994 I was considered a "****" as I did what I was paid to do, deliver and pickup freight. But striking drivers were allowed to operate trucks for other union carriers that were not on strike and those drivers were not *****... I failed to see the difference.

Whether you are in Texas or Indiana, from start to finish organizing really means negotiating. You will negotiate not only with your employer but also your fellow worker. You better have a clear focused understanding of your fellow employee's "best interests" and be ready to fight for yours. And, you are not organizing the company, you are organizing your facility. Do you believe a traditional pension is your goal?, think again and do the research, most will fail within ten years. Medical benefits and costs? Blame the government not your employer. I personally know Holland Freight drivers who retired and then had to go back to work for another carrier to continue benefits for their family. Contracts are changing in this ever-changing world. Stolen vacation?, I have never experienced any decline in the amount of time off determined by my years of service. We have and we continue to see change within the company Be careful how much of social change you blame on your employer. And, if you sign that card be sure it represents factual change opportunities regarding the relationship between you and your employer.

my opinion, please respect it as that and I will respect yours" - Merdock

Quote from Merdock out of this thread:
Con-Way and Union Organization Efforts

It seems to be well thought out and relevant regardless of what side you may be on.
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Was Merdock in management?
 
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