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What are they doing to make a 100 grand a year? 5 days of peddle,and 2 days weekend dock? Because there is no way you can make that much even banging out 60 hours a week in p and d..
No one makes 100k in the city
P&D has the 60 hr week rule, no way you can make $100k, I have seen guys making $ 70k, you go 1 minute past 60 hours and you get a warning letter.
no one makes 100k in the city at OD. However where I am we have quite a few linehhaul bids that will get you 100k. We have some big mile runs. 666, 640 606 a day plus you can volunteer to work a day off if you want and get more miles if they are available. I know it's hard to believe but It's true i wish I came here years ago. I am a bottom feeder here but occasionally I will get a 420 dollar day and I see guys with whiskers do it every day.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong,you can also be on a 70 in 8 so If you drove and worked,say 65 hours Monday through Friday and never went over 11 hours of driving you can reset (34 hours )over the weekend and start driving again Monday legally according to dot.

It's the union that doesn't recognise the reset and adheres to the 60 in 7 rule, so I'm told.
Am guessing you mean 65 in 6 days,because 65 in 5 days is 13 per day. Correct on we do not use the 34 hour rule,or a driver could work 84 hours in 7 days. Yrc road is on 70 in 8, and city 60 in 7. This whole part of this thread is BS anyway. Like mystic said,dock only,you can work all you want. Drivers,adhere to the DOT rules.
 
If one works 60 hrs, each and every week at $22/hr, gross is $1540. 52 weeks equals just over 80k. Company loves those who work maximum hours. It reduces the overall cost of healthcare and pension/401-k. If one wants to affect overhead in the most efficient way, work your 40 and go home, enjoy life.
 
If one works 60 hrs, each and every week at $22/hr, gross is $1540. 52 weeks equals just over 80k. Company loves those who work maximum hours. It reduces the overall cost of healthcare and pension/401-k. If one wants to affect overhead in the most efficient way, work your 40 and go home, enjoy life.
Company loves those who work maximum hours. It reduces the overall cost of healthcare and pension/401-k

Ya nailed it. Up to usually 58 hours the are ahead money wise. But you are right. 100 man board has 25 people who will work 60 every week. That is )guessing) 15 to 20 people they don't have to hire. 20 people * 35,000.00 a year (health & Pension) 700 grand they don't have to pay because ov the overtime being worked. It hurts all of us. Now they can't find people qualified to hire if they wanted to. And if they do, half quit within a year. von.
 
No one makes 100k in the city

no one makes 100k in the city at OD. However where I am we have quite a few linehhaul bids that will get you 100k. We have some big mile runs. 666, 640 606 a day plus you can volunteer to work a day off if you want and get more miles if they are available. I know it's hard to believe but It's true i wish I came here years ago. I am a bottom feeder here but occasionally I will get a 420 dollar day and I see guys with whiskers do it every day.
Do they respect seniority or how do you get the runs??
 
Do they respect seniority or how do you get the runs??
Yes they respect sen
Do they respect seniority or how do you get the runs??
yes they bid the on the runs in January at my location some locations bid Twice a year I think. The senior extra board driver picks the run he wants out of the available runs however if the jr driver on the extra board doesn't get a run he roatates to the top for the next day that only applies to the extra board though not the bid runs.
 
Yes they respect sen

yes they bid the on the runs in January at my location some locations bid Twice a year I think. The senior extra board driver picks the run he wants out of the available runs however if the jr driver on the extra board doesn't get a run he roatates to the top for the next day that only applies to the extra board though not the bid runs.
In other words....no HOG BOARD where the senior man always goes ahead of others below him as long as he's rested and has hours to work.
HOG BOARDS suck.
 
we have the anal optimizer, instead of route optimization, optimizes the shape of your nose to bosses anus, allows for easy runs and much ot to do little work.
we need to discard the management lobotomizer, costs too much money to operate this way.
You guys must have some old Con-way management. Con-way had the optimizer years ago.
 
First in, first out. Unless you're covering a vacation.
That is good in theory, but then you have what is called at Holland, a "race horse dispatch" where junior men on the open board going to the same location as some senior open board drivers, drive as fast as possible (no breaks, no lunch stop, pee in a bottle) just to get ahead of a senior driver or drivers, for that "first in first out with longer load" at that foreign terminal. It seems there should be a minimum and maximum running time to maybe stop this greed factor of people running over each other. Of course the company loves it when drivers are willing to give up their contractual right to a coffee break or lunch break. This sort of greed has always been a problem and creates bad feelings among the drivers, especially when certain "leather asses" like to brag about their running time to the dispatchers, and then are "rewarded" for giving up their contractual enroute breaks, with more miles and earlier dispatch time by dispatch that night. There doesn't seem to be any mutual respect anymore.
For sure, I don't like a "hog board" but the "race horse dispatch" isn't much better. While I was at Holland, there were several wrecks (some fatal) caused by our drivers that were driving past the point where they should have stopped for a break, simply because they wanted to be "first in".
The decision ended badly for them and sometimes for others. Sometimes just common sense should prevail.
 
That is good in theory, but then you have what is called at Holland, a "race horse dispatch" where junior men on the open board going to the same location as some senior open board drivers, drive as fast as possible (no breaks, no lunch stop, pee in a bottle) just to get ahead of a senior driver or drivers, for that "first in first out with longer load" at that foreign terminal. It seems there should be a minimum and maximum running time to maybe stop this greed factor of people running over each other. Of course the company loves it when drivers are willing to give up their contractual right to a coffee break or lunch break. This sort of greed has always been a problem and creates bad feelings among the drivers, especially when certain "leather asses" like to brag about their running time to the dispatchers, and then are "rewarded" for giving up their contractual enroute breaks, with more miles and earlier dispatch time by dispatch that night. There doesn't seem to be any mutual respect anymore.
For sure, I don't like a "hog board" but the "race horse dispatch" isn't much better. While I was at Holland, there were several wrecks (some fatal) caused by our drivers that were driving past the point where they should have stopped for a break, simply because they wanted to be "first in".
The decision ended badly for them and sometimes for others. Sometimes just common sense should prevail.
Agreed. We have a minimum and maximum time assigned to all runs. Wild or bid. Trust me, I've been called in on it. But I definitely see your point. Especially when it effects the safety of the driver and the public. You're right, common sense should prevail.
 
No driver should outdrive themselves. I'm not a fan of the mandatory break, but you should never be in such a hurry that you can't afford five minutes to get out of the cab, take a walk around the truck, maybe take a quick bathroom break. It's good for the circulation, helps keep you alert and prevents the dreaded pee in a bottle scenario.

I've been doing it this way for years. The government just made me turn it into a half hour instead of 10-15 minutes. And the fact that **** jugs still exist with the mandatory break is just disgusting.
 
No one makes 100k in the city

no one makes 100k in the city at OD. However where I am we have quite a few linehhaul bids that will get you 100k. We have some big mile runs. 666, 640 606 a day plus you can volunteer to work a day off if you want and get more miles if they are available. I know it's hard to believe but It's true i wish I came here years ago. I am a bottom feeder here but occasionally I will get a 420 dollar day and I see guys with whiskers do it every day.

I make over 80k in the city at OD every year. Close enough. But I live ina state that forces the cheap sob to give me ot after 40.
 
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