Gene you sure have some crazy thought processes but you can't speak everyone. Like I said your can turn it and twist any way you want my friend but its just your opinion. Thank you for your input however.
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Just to give everyone an update on whats going on whats happening at Laredo ,Tx. The companies objections to their vote has moved on to the United States Supreme Court after the company lost in the Lower Court. The court is determining whether it will hear the case or let the Lower Courts ruling stand. If the Lower Court ruling stands then Laredo will move forward to bargaining. There is bunch of nonsense made up stories so hopefully this will lay some of that to rest.
Again like i have said before please do not take everything you hear on this site or through the Line haul system as gospel. Do your own research and question what you hear or read there are those who are misinformed and then there are those who purposely put out falsehoods to confuse you. Everyone's an expert but the truth is very few are involved in any of the process .
Again like i have said before please do not take everything you hear on this site or through the Line haul system as gospel. Do your own research and question what you hear or read there are those who are misinformed and then there are those who purposely put out falsehoods to confuse you. Everyone's an expert but the truth is very few are involved in any of the process .
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Statistical fact check for the anti people out there. When you become teamsters, you enjoy all the great benefits of being teamsters through bargaining contracts. Fact! Happy emotions will flourish through fair bargaining. Fact! Some day even serene gene will enjoy the fruits of being a teamster.fact! Only a matter of time..tic tocA lot of people here know what they're talking about - where we differ is in what the outcome will be.
It's like sports - you can know all the stats and the odds, but one you start picking winners and losers, you're dealing with emotion. Makes people a little nutty.
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I took a gander at the union shop's threads and I have determined you're either a liar or ignorant, possibly both.
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I would mark the hazmat route and put comments in that I took it to avoid congestion. Then it's up to them whether they pay it or not. If it benefits the company (i.e. freight gets back and to the street sooner) they should pay the difference in miles. But as long as you're being honest as to why then common sense says there shouldn't be a problem. Then again common sense seems to be in short supply.
That being said I have to address teamster82. Theft is not a mistake or "something stupid", it is intentional and unethical. I can't believe you would defend someone blatantly stealing income. Your lack of ethics is disappointing. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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That's nice, most of us don't live in Western States area. Most (including me) are in CSPF territory. Some brotherhood, I got mine **** y'all...
How would you like it if they took all the funds and consolidated into one? Shared sacrifice brother.
Where did he say I've got mine at specifically? Putting words in people's mouth? Your better than that. Where does it say XPO would be in central states at all? They vote on that also so this is not even relevant.That's nice, most of us don't live in Western States area. Most (including me) are in CSPF territory. Some brotherhood, I got miney'all...
How would you like it if they took all the funds and consolidated into one? Shared sacrifice brother.
I always thought it should of been one fund only but i don't make the rules. No one said you have to be in CSPF, you negotiate where you want your pension to be. There will never be anyone going into CSPF again. I never said **** y'all, you have no idea how I feel about the members in CSPF.That's nice, most of us don't live in Western States area. Most (including me) are in CSPF territory. Some brotherhood, I got mine
How would you like it if they took all the funds and consolidated into one? Shared sacrifice brother.
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I always thought it should of been one fund only but i don't make the rules. No one said you have to be in CSPF, you negotiate where you want your pension to be. There will never be anyone going into CSPF again. I never said
When you said "western states is funded and doing good" that says to me that if you're fortunate to live out there you're good and is totally glossing over that a majority of us would fall under CSPF, so I got mine and to hell with everyone else. I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth I'm stating my take on what was said. If I'm wrong sorry but that's how it appeared from an outside perspective.
If you think that the union isn't going to press hard to get any new companies (XPO and FedEx) into CSPF you're really being naive. They are going to want to prop up their **** up with CSPF. The whole idea of choosing what fund you go into is a pipe dream, the IBT has shown a track record of not giving a damn about its members and forcing said members to take things that aren't in their best interests. The IBT isn't in the business of representing anyone but their own interests anymore. What's to say they won't strong arm or cajole any new members into CSPF? They don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
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One other point I forgot to cover, you said you don't make the rules and feel that all the funds should be tied together... have you contacted your local and told them so? You could always do that, and you do make the rules. You vote, remember? You feel strongly about something, put your money where your mouth is and fight for it.
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As long as you are making "points", you forgot to mention that the Teamsters don't run or control any pension fund.
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http://ualmechanics.com/assets/2014 UPS teamcare cramdown.pdf
It's pretty obvious to someone who doesn't have horse head shaped glasses on who is pulling the strings...
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So who author this?
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Can't find a name offhand but it comes from the aircraft mechanic's union webpage.
You're wrong if you got that impression and I'm sorry you took it that way. Not being naive about XPO and FedEx, in my opinion there will never be anyone going into CSPF again. I don't think the Teamsters would even try to get someone into CSPF. Have you ever been in the Teamsters? How do you know what they're going to do? The members still vote and if the Union doesn't like the outcome of the vote and order another vote the members can vote no again and again. You have no say now.When you said "western states is funded and doing good" that says to me that if you're fortunate to live out there you're good and is totally glossing over that a majority of us would fall under CSPF, so I got mine and to hell with everyone else. I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth I'm stating my take on what was said. If I'm wrong sorry but that's how it appeared from an outside perspective.
If you think that the union isn't going to press hard to get any new companies (XPO and FedEx) into CSPF you're really being naive. They are going to want to prop up their
I'd like to know who wrote this also. One thing said is UPS Teamsters are the most abused workers but every UPS Teamster I have ever talked to loves it there,and I don't know of any quitting and going elsewhere. If they're so abused why do they stay?
It's pretty easy not to be in central state. You vote no on it. That easy!When you said "western states is funded and doing good" that says to me that if you're fortunate to live out there you're good and is totally glossing over that a majority of us would fall under CSPF, so I got mine and to hell with everyone else. I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth I'm stating my take on what was said. If I'm wrong sorry but that's how it appeared from an outside perspective.
If you think that the union isn't going to press hard to get any new companies (XPO and FedEx) into CSPF you're really being naive. They are going to want to prop up their
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NO ONE is going into any Failing multi employer plan. This is a fact . Who would negotiate themselves into that. One of the biggest anti-union lies out there is that the Teamsters just need new membership to prop up failing pension plans and the members have no control or say in this. Every time someone puts this out there it proves their either ignorant to the facts or their doing for a reason.
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