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Just a question here,if and when this does happen(the union voted out) do you really think the company is going to put the city pay package into effect right away? Plus the other stuff you say you haven't gotten since the union was voted in. Equipment/ runs/ freight not being run around you? You did say your landlocked so why wouldn't the company run freight to a terminal that has the room to do it? Did the drivers get to follow the freight under the change? The company couid say NO to all of this and then what?
 
Oh, I agree 100% but that's also why I said these focus groups help more on the local level. A lot of times the CCM is shielded from what's really going on at certain centers and sometimes it's the CCM that is the problem. Either way, until your issues are brought to the forefront they'll never be dealt with. What I've found over time is that more guys would rather complain in hopes of someone else taking the reins and solving the issues instead of dealing with them themselves. Why guys won't speak up is beyond me!! Our company has an open door policy as well as a chain of command...if one takes the time to walk through the door and then climb the ladder should they not get the results they desire, I think they'll find there's someone who will want to help resolve your issues.

NOTE: This post wasn't directed toward you personally Lube but rather to people in general since we all know someone that fits this description.
You have some good points but........The open door policy is a joke. When you as a driver try to get a problem corrected you are labled a troublemaker or cry baby. Safety is a second concern to profit here now. I,m in the same region as you, I,m a long timer and I run to your house daily. HR doesn't help , MD claims that he will get answers and then you don't hear from him for 6 months. CCM is too busy trying to play the city drivers against the road drivers and vise versa. I heard what the new motto is in the southeast region
S------shut up
H------hook em up
I------ignore the safety violations
T-----truck em up
The criteria for the GPD changes almost daily(sarcastic, but you get the point)
Cram and jam onto one trailer and pull an empty so we keep load average up and let the next terminal deal with the damages. Overall there is no accountability anymore when the job is not done correctly. And before you say it..Yes I can leave but I,m too old to start over at the bottom somewhere else. And yes I would run for shop steward in my barn if the guys I work with ever smarten up and vote the union in. Just my two cents and the e-logs are pretty nice
 
Just a question here,if and when this does happen(the union voted out) do you really think the company is going to put the city pay package into effect right away? Plus the other stuff you say you haven't gotten since the union was voted in. Equipment/ runs/ freight not being run around you? You did say your landlocked so why wouldn't the company run freight to a terminal that has the room to do it? Did the drivers get to follow the freight under the change? The company couid say NO to all of this and then what?
Now you're asking questions that are above my paygrade....did you mean the vacation wage enhancement right away?? Dunno, it could be as simple as a click of the mouse or it could be a lot of bureaucratic red tape, not sure as to how quickly but they would get the enhancement IMO. As for the rest, I doubt we'll ever get the freight back from GSP and without a new or another center in CLT, I doubt we'll get the rest back either...the price you pay for biting the hand that feeds you!! No runs have been moved yet, although the union agreed under the COO agreement, but yes, drivers would be allowed to follow the freight. Why would the company say NO, they still have a business to run and customers to service and they're going to do what's in the best interest of the company, as a whole.
 
Hostile is a strong word IMO...I'd prefer to see self organized. At centers were elections resulted in no votes they've created focus groups made up of drivers for drivers...they meet and discuss issues that drivers are having and they take those issues to local and regional management. From what I've heard it's turned out positive results on the local level which is usually where most of the problems are.

Lol that is a joke. The "focus group" at our center met 1 time no changes were made. You have no idea just like normal.
 
These things happen every day in some centers, I happen to work in one of them/

Sadly, sometimes you get a bad SCM and the rot starts at the top. The tough part is dealing with that. I've seen great SCM's, Good ones and damn bad ones. They're all gone, I'm still here. Fortitudine Vincimus. "By Endurance We Conquer".

ST
 
You have some good points but........The open door policy is a joke. When you as a driver try to get a problem corrected you are labled a troublemaker or cry baby. Safety is a second concern to profit here now. I,m in the same region as you, I,m a long timer and I run to your house daily. HR doesn't help , MD claims that he will get answers and then you don't hear from him for 6 months. CCM is too busy trying to play the city drivers against the road drivers and vise versa. I heard what the new motto is in the southeast region
S------shut up
H------hook em up
I------ignore the safety violations
T-----truck em up
The criteria for the GPD changes almost daily(sarcastic, but you get the point)
Cram and jam onto one trailer and pull an empty so we keep load average up and let the next terminal deal with the damages. Overall there is no accountability anymore when the job is not done correctly. And before you say it..Yes I can leave but I,m too old to start over at the bottom somewhere else. And yes I would run for shop steward in my barn if the guys I work with ever smarten up and vote the union in. Just my two cents and the e-logs are pretty nice

I'm going to ask a painful question here...can you and do you document these problems? Local management hates me, because I keep a steno pad and a camera handy. I document date, time, equipment number and violation. I email my road advisor every time I deadline and refuse a piece of equipment. Everything gets fixed. I don't get questioned about why I'm delayed...I do have a couple of worthless drivers in my barn who want to kill me because they keep getting crucified for failing to pre trip and post trip.

Had a gear the other night, driver brought it in with a flat. When I pre-tripped it I deadlined it. He hates me because I should have left with it, according to him, to save him being held responsible for failing to post trip. Can you say "FU"? You do your job, I'll do mine. If you fail to do your job, I don't care, unless you expect me to not do mine, or worse, risk my job, my freedom and my financial security by hauling your junk equipment, or bad paperwork, wrong seals etceteras.

I live in California. If you haul a trailer with a bad wheel seal down the highway, and it burns to the ground, you stand a 50/50 chance of losing your commercial drivers license. If the Duals come off and kill someone, you have a 100% chance of being prosecuted for vehicular manslaughter. 4 years and 4 months in state prison per count.

5+ years ago, one of my domicile drivers was involved in a double fatality accident, his only mistake was doing 5 mph over the limit at the time everything went to hell. California Highway Patrol demanded the local DA prosecute him for 2 fatalities, despite the fact the other driver involved was speeding, under the influence of drugs, driving on bald tires and way too fast for conditions in the rain.

He spent the last five years fighting 3 lawsuits from the "victims", who blamed him and FedEx Freight for the completely irresponsible actions of a family member. He nearly lost his house in this debacle.

So remember, I don't care if you don't do your job, right up to the point that your immaturity, irresponsibility and lack of professionalism affect my ability to go to work, do my job and go home safely to my family. Then you can FOAD.

That's the way it is, and I do my best not to hang you out to dry. I will give you quality equipment and correct paperwork/seals every time, because I respect your right to go home to your family.

Do you get it?

ST
 
I'm going to enjoy watching you eat crow July 7th. It's not because I'm pro union, but just because you're such a :censored: dick.

I'll make a bet with you over the election. The loser agrees to leave Truckingboards forever. The Union stays, you go. The Union goes, I go. You willing to wager?
It's a bet. That means you can't come back under different avatars like the other several times. Deal?
 
You have some good points but........The open door policy is a joke. When you as a driver try to get a problem corrected you are labled a troublemaker or cry baby. Safety is a second concern to profit here now. I,m in the same region as you, I,m a long timer and I run to your house daily. HR doesn't help , MD claims that he will get answers and then you don't hear from him for 6 months. CCM is too busy trying to play the city drivers against the road drivers and vise versa. I heard what the new motto is in the southeast region
S------shut up
H------hook em up
I------ignore the safety violations
T-----truck em up
The criteria for the GPD changes almost daily(sarcastic, but you get the point)
Cram and jam onto one trailer and pull an empty so we keep load average up and let the next terminal deal with the damages. Overall there is no accountability anymore when the job is not done correctly. And before you say it..Yes I can leave but I,m too old to start over at the bottom somewhere else. And yes I would run for shop steward in my barn if the guys I work with ever smarten up and vote the union in. Just my two cents and the e-logs are pretty nice
As I read through your post I noticed something missing...you failed to provide just one solution to any of the issues you described, except turning to the union for answers but as you should've seen by now, that's not a solution either!! Take ST's latest post, he provided his solution to his issues and communicated those solutions as advice to help others with theirs...see how easy that was?? Not bashing you personally but guys getting on social media to complain about problems instead of handling issues the proper way is very unproductive IMO.

Personally, I'd rather not work alongside someone who shares the attitude you described, not only are you putting my safety in jeopardy, you're jeopardizing the safety of everyone around you!!
 
As I read through your post I noticed something missing...you failed to provide just one solution to any of the issues you described, except turning to the union for answers but as you should've seen by now, that's not a solution either!! Take ST's latest post, he provided his solution to his issues and communicated those solutions as advice to help others with theirs...see how easy that was?? Not bashing you personally but guys getting on social media to complain about problems instead of handling issues the proper way is very unproductive IMO.

Personally, I'd rather not work alongside someone who shares the attitude you described, not only are you putting my safety in jeopardy, you're jeopardizing the safety of everyone around you!!
sorry dude if if you dont like the lets get it done right the first time attitude. we have presented solutions to the bean counters for years, no one listens. please take the bet you were offered
 
Now you're asking questions that are above my paygrade....did you mean the vacation wage enhancement right away?? Dunno, it could be as simple as a click of the mouse or it could be a lot of bureaucratic red tape, not sure as to how quickly but they would get the enhancement IMO.
So wait, let me get this straight. Your telling people in clt that if this goes away they are going to get the vacation rate increase and new trucks right away and now your tone to his question has changed lol. There were charges on that increase and an appeal still at large , so just for that alone if the company did give that to the drivers it would show bribery intent, so your probably looking at atleast a year or 2 before getting
As far as work going around you that trap has been going on forever here and I'll use one of your quotes "the company will do whatever they have to to save money".
 
I will take Dicks bet and offer the same terms to you. Are you willing to take the bet or are you all bluster as usual? Just remember if you take the bet you are finished on Truckingboards after July 7.

I didn't make the bet but I will take it. See how easy that was you have been silent on it the issue the whole time what's wrong not very confident?
 
I didn't make the bet but I will take it. See how easy that was you have been silent on it the issue the whole time what's wrong not very confident?
Very confident. I just don't spend a lot of time on Truckingboards so sometimes it takes me a while to respond. The results will be posted late Friday night after the vote and then you will have to find another hobby. Lmao
 
Very confident. I just don't spend a lot of time on Truckingboards so sometimes it takes me a while to respond. The results will be posted late Friday night after the vote and then you will have to find another hobby. Lmao

You have been on here a lot since he tried to make the bet even made multiple posts. You can't pull a road dog and try to make a new screen name either. We are going to be minus the clown club on here soon. I for one will miss you guys posting your clown like replys.
 
sorry dude if if you dont like the lets get it done right the first time attitude. we have presented solutions to the bean counters for years, no one listens. please take the bet you were offered
Don't get it twisted, I'm all about "do it right the first time" but unfortunately too many of our coworkers arent!! Perhaps it's your and their attitudes that's the problem, I get as frustrated as the next man but I don't stop until I get an answer no matter how far up the ladder I have to climb...it might not be the answer I want because a lot of times as drivers we just see what's on the surface, but I do get answers.

Although the bet wasn't offered to me I accepted it, I'm still waiting for a response...

Just curious, you're not the guy that comes through the gate every night and makes a left going the wrong way are you??
 
So wait, let me get this straight. Your telling people in clt that if this goes away they are going to get the vacation rate increase and new trucks right away and now your tone to his question has changed lol. There were charges on that increase and an appeal still at large , so just for that alone if the company did give that to the drivers it would show bribery intent, so your probably looking at atleast a year or 2 before getting
As far as work going around you that trap has been going on forever here and I'll use one of your quotes "the company will do whatever they have to to save money".
I was wondering how long it would take you to make another appearance...and I bet you'll disappear again faster than it took you to show back up!! :hilarious:

Wait, let me get this straight....when did I tell people when we vote the union out they'd get the vacation enhancement and new trucks?? If I'm not mistaken I said "that's above my pay grade", "dunno", and "I have no idea" meaning I DON'T KNOW...do you have a comprehension problem?? They've already lost the friviolous ULP and they'll also lose the appeal, it's just a matter of time...and they have you guys to thank for not getting these things!! Remember, it was you guys who claimed you could get them better but all you've gotten the four centers is less...thanks a lot!! I personally don't know how you sleep at night knowing every time one of the city drivers takes a vacation day it's YOU that's taken money out of their pockets!!
As for running freight around us, that very rarely happened since we've always had the potential to grow...until the union was voted in!! Thanks agin for taking money out of my pocket!!

Good to her from you again, see you again in about six months!!
 
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