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Don't really want to get hung up in a huge debate on this. Red nailed it pretty good on the participation factor.

Let me direct your attention to this tidbit on the most recent national Teamster election.

http://www.joc.com/trucking-logisti...s/hoffa-wins-teamsters-election_20161121.html

"The election, as close as it was, involved only a small portion of the union’s 1.4 million members. About 15.4 percent of the membership, slightly more than 210,000 Teamsters, cast ballots in the vote. That’s a similar participation rate to preceding union elections."

One would have to think participation at the Local level would be similar, wouldn't you agree? Nearly 85% fail to participate in the most simple of tasks, voting? :chairshot:
I'm not going really trying to "debate" so to speak just curious your line of thought.

On a side note if we don't "debate" which is another word for talk in a forum it gets boring here.
 
I'm not going really trying to "debate" so to speak just curious your line of thought.

On a side note if we don't "debate" which is another word for talk in a forum it gets boring here.
Man, I didn't mean to come across as unwilling to discuss it. Sorry if I did. Just trying to keep it short and in perspective. I can certainly enjoy a good debate, I just don't think this point is debatable. 15% participation produces predictable results.

Also, I'm not particularly comfortable being more critical of the representative organization and/or process than I already have been, considering many are still engaged in the process. If/when that changes, we can go there. I am comfortable suggesting that participation levels have certainly contributed to the results thus far. Maximize participation and you'll maximize results.

Am I wrong?
 
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Man, I didn't mean to come across as unwilling to discuss it. Sorry if I did. Just trying to keep it short and in perspective. I can certainly enjoy a good debate, I just don't think this point is debatable. 15% participation produces predictable results.

Also, I'm not particularly comfortable being more critical of the representative organization and/or process than I already have been, considering many are still engaged in the process. If/when that changes, we can go there. I am comfortable suggesting that participation levels have certainly contributed to the results thus far. Maximize participation and you'll maximize results.

Am I wrong?
You're not wrong and I'm not sure what the reasons are/were, we can discuss later.
 
yes i do work here i go back to the days of hunter and hildibrant
I can remember when Hunter was a full time dockworker at our old Concord center and Hilderbran was a dock supervisor in CLT...hell, I can remember when Grant Crawford, former CEO of FXFC, started as a part time dockworker at our old Concord center!!

The "dust bowl"...aw, the good ole days...
 
For HootOwl and Swamprat and their friends I have nothing but respect. For the unionbusters and their buddies....May they burn in Hell eternal.
We have a nation run by corporations for decades now......the results are in $20 trillion in debt and headed for bankrupt.............when unions had say and people took say in unions we were never in debt....But the devil is a crafty creature.....lies and deception are the game...and we know which side played that game.....hellfire and damnation awaits....and bankruptcy for the nation.
 
For HootOwl and Swamprat and their friends I have nothing but respect. For the unionbusters and their buddies....May they burn in Hell eternal.
We have a nation run by corporations for decades now......the results are in $20 trillion in debt and headed for bankrupt.............when unions had say and people took say in unions we were never in debt....But the devil is a crafty creature.....lies and deception are the game...and we know which side played that game.....hellfire and damnation awaits....and bankruptcy for the nation.
You left Jews out.
 
You left Jews out.
Here...read this...this is where you take us. taking out unions is part of this type of plan...and with your sacred multinational corporations running the show...debt is up to $20 trillion...their trade policies...Their unionbusting policies...their takeover of every politician from localities to states to nations....and you help them...there will come a day when we all work for nothing following these selfish bastards.
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The infamous statue of Bolshevist dictator Vladimir Lenin standing conveniently infront of a Masonic Lodge in Seattle, United States.[1]
Communism and Freemasonry refers to the relationship between the movements of freemasonry and communism, the former having influenced the latter. Both movements couch their propaganda in the terms of "progress", "humanity", "equality" and "universal brotherhood". A common perception of both movements from critics is that they are tools of international Jewry. Generally freemasonry acts to weaken the nation through liberalism and decadence to the point that it cannot resist a takeover by the more openly and explicitly despotic communists. This happened during the so-called "Russian Revolution", in which February was masonic, while November was communist.

Usually when the complete enslavement of the nation has been achieved, open freemasonry, like "democratic socialists" and "trade unions" are banned, surplus to requirements; having accomplished their goal of destabilization. This happened in Soviet Empire under Stalin and in most other cases; there are exceptions however, Salvador Allende was famous for his freemasonry and Cuba under Fidel Castro has never outlawed it. Trotskyism has a closer relationship to Grand Orient freemasonry; for instance Trotskyist party founder Frédéric Zeller was Grand Master of the Grand Orient de France in the 1970s. Leon Trotsky registered with Freemasonic lodges, made references to his studies of it, and in his studies cited masonic groups such as the Carbonari and Illuminati as proto-communistic.
 
Where's the right-to-work type law for the guys who wanted the union? You know...the one where you lose the vote...but still get what you wanted????
 
It's a nation not worth dying for...that makes its working people work this many years to organize a union and try to achieve a legal contract for their services, which businessmen do everyday with no hassles, and then allows scumbag union busting companies operate and cheat and deceive the workers and take away everything. This country is on its way down. the workers mentality is that of fools, and the companies are just scum...and the politicians that they pay off for their sickening laws aren't even worthy of being called humans or Americans IMO. They are treasonous traitors to the people. Servants of globalism. And globalism is the downfall of our nation.
 
I gotta cut out of here before I get in any trouble...but I'll be thanking God tonight that Charlotte is so many miles away. Civil ways ain't wotking anymore...the system is a sham...Biased for those who have way more than they need or deserve.....for them to pay professional legal teams to brainwash people into giving them even more out of their own labors. May I never meet redracer or Johndeere in person. Most pathetic examples of Americans that I've ever communicated with...carry on guys....New Penn is hiring at our full rate for drivers which is about $22/hour...Our dues cover our contract negotiations, which include our health insurance...Meaning that we pay $54/month for dues...and our contract got us no payment from us into insurance...insurance is covered under the $54/month dues....just $20 copays here and there.

It's very difficult to beat a system which is not setup for you to win. Great job getting it in on the first vote guys..Best news in the last couple years.....but like I said...the wealthy of this world have the system rigged in their favor...and it'll take miracles and or revolution to beat them.......85 heroes in Charlotte as far as I see it. Not too many of them left and understand where the true battles of this nation and world lies....and how to stick together to try and beat it. Nothing but respect for you guys.
 
Here...read this...this is where you take us. taking out unions is part of this type of plan...and with your sacred multinational corporations running the show...debt is up to $20 trillion...their trade policies...Their unionbusting policies...their takeover of every politician from localities to states to nations....and you help them...there will come a day when we all work for nothing following these selfish bastards.
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Communism and Freemasonry
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The infamous statue of Bolshevist dictator Vladimir Lenin standing conveniently infront of a Masonic Lodge in Seattle, United States.[1]
Communism and Freemasonry refers to the relationship between the movements of freemasonry and communism, the former having influenced the latter. Both movements couch their propaganda in the terms of "progress", "humanity", "equality" and "universal brotherhood". A common perception of both movements from critics is that they are tools of international Jewry. Generally freemasonry acts to weaken the nation through liberalism and decadence to the point that it cannot resist a takeover by the more openly and explicitly despotic communists. This happened during the so-called "Russian Revolution", in which February was masonic, while November was communist.

Usually when the complete enslavement of the nation has been achieved, open freemasonry, like "democratic socialists" and "trade unions" are banned, surplus to requirements; having accomplished their goal of destabilization. This happened in Soviet Empire under Stalin and in most other cases; there are exceptions however, Salvador Allende was famous for his freemasonry and Cuba under Fidel Castro has never outlawed it. Trotskyism has a closer relationship to Grand Orient freemasonry; for instance Trotskyist party founder Frédéric Zeller was Grand Master of the Grand Orient de France in the 1970s. Leon Trotsky registered with Freemasonic lodges, made references to his studies of it, and in his studies cited masonic groups such as the Carbonari and Illuminati as proto-communistic.
Go crawl back under your rock. You are clueless. No wonder the Teamsters are becoming extinct like dinosaurs with radicals like you spouting off nonsense. Our other union terminals are well on their way to decertification soon so stick that in your pipe and smoke it instead of that other stuff. By the way two of the prominent pro union organizers at CLT are Masons. I guess they are unaware of the agenda. Lmao
 
You left Jews out.
Dang, now how do you really feel?
A bunch of guys who did the right thing awhile back just give up on there say in the industry. Just like the nation has done to every industry for how many decades?
No wonder our jobs are all gone and our debt so high....
They let the companies do whatever they want to them at their own jobs...and in their own towns and counties, and in their states and in DC,,,,Is there any wonder why all the jobs have left? The people have no spines. They just let them do whatever they want....There's not 2 sides to the payscales and bennies, or who does what and how...They just let it be one sided...just like they do throughout everything....and we wonder why we have a $20trillion debt and they take 30% of our checks for taxes? The people just let them.....keep giving it and they'll keep taking it and then some...and some more....and some more....and some more.....till there's nothing left.

Hoffa should've poured everything he had into this...but he's about as lame as those who voted it out.
But the union is not just Hoffa...it's the members...and they should've given more also.............Take take take...that's all I see everywhere....It's what I've seen my whole life...
Go crawl back under your rock. You are clueless. No wonder the Teamsters are becoming extinct like dinosaurs with radicals like you spouting off nonsense. Our other union terminals are well on their way to decertification soon so stick that in your pipe and smoke it instead of that other stuff. By the way two of the prominent pro union organizers at CLT are Masons. I guess they are unaware of the agenda. Lmao
Nothing you say is anything to be proud of. The companies form unions called lobby groups. Resume your position on your knees. What is your payrate and what is the cost of your health insurance in EPH?
I doubt you will beat that terrible $54/MONTH dues which covers contractually provided health
insurance...and EPH would probably get that from Local 107. Maybe saying people make $24/hour makes people 'feel' all fluffy and important....but at a lot of the nonunion outfits it means nothing when you have to shell out thousands of dollars/year for health insurance...and it gets more expensive if you add wives, and more for every child....That $54/month has covered and does cover a family of 5 for me. Only a crackhead would turn down an offer like that.

Go on...ensure that the companies have all control....They brought this on you to begin with. go on and support the TPP deals for FEDEX...so that you not only weaken your own lives but the nations too......work boy work....like the commie Chinese that FEDEX likes doing business with. Until we all work for nothing like the Chinese.

Those guys need to leave that club if we want success. Their buddies with higher degrees are not trustable................if they truly are in that club. But your word is as trustable as a used car salesman...so the reference to them 2 guys could be a lie.

I can't believe that a guy from the EPH area would think or talk like you..........you must be a cheap foreign import.
 
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Siding with such an 'upstanding" company of bullies is something to really be proud of.
https://www.law360.com/articles/39444/fedex-pays-to-quell-union-busting-claims
Law360, New York (November 6, 2007, 12:00 AM EST) -- As it fights a National Labor Relations Board ruling over employee status in the D.C. Circuit, FedEx Ground Package System Inc. has settled the board's claims that it bullied Massachusetts delivery drivers over their pro-union views.
It shelled out $253,000 on Tuesday to five drivers from the shipper's Northboro, Mass., terminal to settle the National Labor Relations Board's June complaint of unfair labor practices. FedEx did not admit to any National Labor Relations Act violations or that the five drivers were legally employees.

After the settlement, Kenneth Flynn walked away with $73,197, Rosita Claudio with $71,984, Stephen Swartwout with $51,318, Robert Williams with $40,000 and Richard Lacina with $16,809. Lacina was the only one who was not fired by FedEx. The others have declined reinstatement with the company.

According to the five drivers, who had all supported the International Brotherhood of
Teamsters, FedEx harassed and intimidated them, firing four, in the hopes of staving off an election that the NLRB had ordered for the union for January 2006.

FedEx tried to drum up fake causes for the terminations in order to avoid accusations of union-busting, according to David Welker, the Teamsters' parcel division senior campaign coordinator.


Over and over you've all seen stories of how FedEx has been breaking the law and bullying your fellow employees....and you side with them on a vote?
They may not be physically beating you....but the proof is in the pudding that your guys are ruled by fear....Americans would stand up to that...But the spine is gone in most of America I guess.............anything for a dollar.
 
Is this a real argument? The national debt is to be blamed on the evil corporations who stomp the little man down.
Maybe I am not enlightened in your area of expertise. was it debt or deficit? at any rate you still make no sense to me.
 
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