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So the city drivers want to make as much as the road drivers...
but they don't want to run shuttles or PM meets..
This argument usually comes from city drivers located at hubs/mini hubs because most hubs have daytime runs. What they don't realize is that hubs are the exception...we have more EOL centers than hubs and a majority of road drivers run the PM, and some of those runs include dock work.

I know guys that have been at EOL centers for 20+ years and they've never seen a daytime run...not by choice, but because their center doesn't have any.
 
This argument usually comes from city drivers located at hubs/mini hubs because most hubs have daytime runs. What they don't realize is that hubs are the exception...we have more EOL centers than hubs and a majority of road drivers run the PM, and some of those runs include dock work.

I know guys that have been at EOL centers for 20+ years and they've never seen a daytime run...not by choice, but because their center doesn't have any.
I work in a medium size hub. Our junior day shift road driver has 25 years and will probably go back to nights because he can't afford to live on his 314 mi turn which gets cut at least once a week.
I guess 175 doors is medium size.
 
Fwiw,
2yrs ago, our 128 door facility...

Our BOTTOM road driver, extra board pulled $72,000 his first year out
.
The shortest bid run, Dallas, was 398mi,but most drivers averaged 3hrs of dock work per run. Whatever math that worked out to = not too shabby for a 23yr old kid.
 
So the city drivers want to make as much as the road drivers...
but they don't want to run shuttles or PM meets..
Being a smart guy, RC knows that there is more to it than that... Market conditions, turnover rates, competition, ability to attract qualified drivers, etc., just to name a few...
 
So the city drivers want to make as much as the road drivers...
but they don't want to run shuttles or PM meets..
I am a city guy and I think road drivers should be paid more than city, due to the elements that they have to deal with. I myself don't have any desire to run shuttles or meet. I say if you're willing to run the road y'all can make all that money. I'll take my tight turns,35 mph and a smaller paycheck!
 
There is an ever growing number of city people that think they should be entitled to the right to bid into top road positions without having done all the BS that goes with rising to the top of the road board.
Haven't stirred this pot for awhile :-):drama:
 
Getting back on topic of this thread. How many new terminals got the raise and incremental increase because of the area you live in. Does anybody have any info on this?
 
There is an ever growing number of city people that think they should be entitled to the right to bid into top road positions without having done all the BS that goes with rising to the top of the road board.
Haven't stirred this pot for awhile :-):drama:
"an ever growing number"? Really? Any evidence to substantiate? I ask because I don't see it.
 
Getting back on topic of this thread. How many new terminals got the raise and incremental increase because of the area you live in. Does anybody have any info on this?
100% of those employed long enough to be at top rate. Same for all locations.

Not a GPD adjustment, if that is what you mean.
 
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"an ever growing number"? Really? Any evidence to substantiate? I ask because I don't see it.
You don't get out much do ya??
I know at my center if you offered the city guys the opportunity to come to the road board with their company seniority, there'd be a mass exodus of the city board!! As it stands, they stay where they are because they don't want to start over at the bottom.
 
You don't get out much do ya??
I know at my center if you offered the city guys the opportunity to come to the road board with their company seniority, there'd be a mass exodus of the city board!! As it stands, they stay where they are because they don't want to start over at the bottom.

No, I don't get out all that much, depending on you definition of "out" and "much". I'm not denying what you're saying, but I think you are answering questions that are not being asked, today.

Too many variables on the topic to waste time with what if. There is a process in place that is unlikely to change. Plenty of opportunity as it exists, depending on one's priorities.
 
You've never been involved in one of those "with all due respect you really haven't paid your dues yet" discussions?
What cave do you hide in?

Oh, certainly I've had the conversations. I'm familiar with the "year and a day" policy of some carriers. It has some merit, and it doesn't create a mass exodus of city drivers. THAT DOESN'T MATTER! It's not the policy here.

You and Red are BOTH guilty of going off topic. Your quote was "There is an ever growing number of city people that think they should be entitled to the right to bid into top road positions...". I still question this growing number of city people you speak of. You are the only one I see stirring that pot.:stirthepot: , which is fine. It just won't go unchecked.
 
So I'm off topic. Isn't the first time that's happened on this board. In my state it is a hot topic. There is a measurable disparity between top of line road and top of line city and the discussions are still being had.
Oh, BTW, year and a day doesn't cut it in Sailboat Country. You wanna change, start at the bottom just like everyone else.
 
I'll probably get flamed pretty bad for this, but here goes...

City driver's don't make great road drivers.

Road drivers don't make great city drivers.

This is evidenced in the companies that have used single boards.

Over the years, (some drivers) can develop their craft to the point of an art form.

I've had the pleasure of watching 30 year veteran road drivers go down the road, making a FedEx set look like a long nose chromed out Pete. They are never in a situation, never in anyone's way and never flailing. It's a beautiful thing to see and the nuance and subtlety would be lost on many, who don't understand what they're looking at.

The same could be said for a veteran city driver, juggling navigation, customer relations, bumping difficult docks
etc...

An NFLer doesn't switch positions for good reason. We can all get specific skills that can only be learned with years of repetition.

Besides, with autonomous trucks in the future, city drivers should have more longevity anyway...
 
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