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Things have changed so much. The way it was explained to us. Your original benefit was reduced to 1/3. So your new number is the number. I know guys who will be getting single digits a month. And then they told us that it was now a 60 month benefit. And we have guys still working because they went to retire and were given the information as far as what they would be paid should they retire and they realized that they are to " young " and can't afford not to work.
So you are saying that my 661.00 a month that I am supposed to draw will be reduced by two thirds??? I will be getting a Attorney if they try that Crap. Something doesn't sound right.
 
So you are saying that my 661.00 a month that I am supposed to draw will be reduced by two thirds??? I will be getting a Attorney if they try that Crap. Something doesn't sound right.


I don't know all of your particulars. Originally, CCX promised 30 years and $3000 a month pension. No one will be getting that. Some guys with 20+ years are going to see close to $1100 or 1/3 the original earned benefit. Being as you are saying well under that. I am speculating that the $661 is what you can expect. However. It would be in your best interest to ask a lot of questions. A lot of guys with a lot of years quit back when they destroyed the retirement. And since I was hired in after the pension was removed, I don't have first hand knowledge. Only what I hear when these guys complain and argue about what to do. As well as some questions they asked the long since departed HR person from back when they slashed the pension.

It's a bit late to be getting an attorney. Con-way is dead. The ::shit:: that Dougie pulled before he sold it is a done deal. You have had literally years now to figure this stuff out. Ask any of the other millions of Americans that have had their pensions stolen what good getting a lawyer does.
 
I don't know all of your particulars. Originally, CCX promised 30 years and $3000 a month pension. No one will be getting that. Some guys with 20+ years are going to see close to $1100 or 1/3 the original earned benefit. Being as you are saying well under that. I am speculating that the $661 is what you can expect. However. It would be in your best interest to ask a lot of questions. A lot of guys with a lot of years quit back when they destroyed the retirement. And since I was hired in after the pension was removed, I don't have first hand knowledge. Only what I hear when these guys complain and argue about what to do. As well as some questions they asked the long since departed HR person from back when they slashed the pension.

It's a bit late to be getting an attorney. Con-way is dead. The :::shit::: that Dougie pulled before he sold it is a done deal. You have had literally years now to figure this stuff out. Ask any of the other millions of Americans that have had their pensions stolen what good getting a lawyer does.
Now I understand what you are talking about, The 30 year 3000.00 deal is gone and for most that had 20 to 25 years in , the pay out would equates to about 1/3 of what one would get . I have my Pension statements and I would be highly pissed if that stole even more than they already have. I did figure it out , decided that it was not worth staying at the time that Lean was going full steam ahead . I'm just hoping that my pension doesn't take any more hits than it already has.
 
I don't know all of your particulars. Originally, CCX promised 30 years and $3000 a month pension. No one will be getting that. Some guys with 20+ years are going to see close to $1100 or 1/3 the original earned benefit. Being as you are saying well under that. I am speculating that the $661 is what you can expect. However. It would be in your best interest to ask a lot of questions. A lot of guys with a lot of years quit back when they destroyed the retirement. And since I was hired in after the pension was removed, I don't have first hand knowledge. Only what I hear when these guys complain and argue about what to do. As well as some questions they asked the long since departed HR person from back when they slashed the pension.

It's a bit late to be getting an attorney. Con-way is dead. The :::shit::: that Dougie pulled before he sold it is a done deal. You have had literally years now to figure this stuff out. Ask any of the other millions of Americans that have had their pensions stolen what good getting a lawyer does.
I don't think Con-way ever planned to keep the pension in the long term and I think they were looking for the right time to exit it.
 
I don't think Con-way ever planned to keep the pension in the long term and I think they were looking for the right time to exit it.
A way to get a workforce in place quickly, get them tied down with enough seniority to keep them from leaving, and then cut the benefit at the proper time. No mass exodus of employees and don't have to pay out too much on a defunked pension. Sounds like a good plan to me.
Follow that up with a bump in the 401k match, and then cancel that as well....sounds like a good plan to me too.
 
A way to get a workforce in place quickly, get them tied down with enough seniority to keep them from leaving, and then cut the benefit at the proper time. No mass exodus of employees and don't have to pay out too much on a defunked pension. Sounds like a good plan to me.
Follow that up with a bump in the 401k match, and then cancel that as well....sounds like a good plan to me too.
There was a lot of drivers that left at my Barn , 20, 18, 13, year men in just one Year. The job became (unsustainable) using their famous words!?!
 
A way to get a workforce in place quickly, get them tied down with enough seniority to keep them from leaving, and then cut the benefit at the proper time. No mass exodus of employees and don't have to pay out too much on a defunked pension. Sounds like a good plan to me.
Follow that up with a bump in the 401k match, and then cancel that as well....sounds like a good plan to me too.
There was a lot of drivers that left at my Barn , 20, 18, 13, year men in just one Year. The job became (unsustainable) using their famous words!?!
I think what we witnessed and my still be seeing is the transformation of a Career/Job into just another Job. Con-way use to tout this as Career / Job you could retire from ( they did for many years)
I think now With Xpo there is no insentive for new employees to stay any longer than a stop gap until they gain experience or something better comes along. It's a perplexing matter . Hopefully the company will see the error in its way and correct it for the long term viability.
 
I thinks one has to be careful when trying to evaluate or compare hourly rates alone between Carriers. There is much more to it such as benefits package and it cost to employees. How overtime is paid ( after eight or after 50) Retirement package ( pension, 401 k) .
It is much more complex to compare them all without everything listed out along side of each other to find out who excels and who is lacking.
 
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I think what we witnessed and my still be seeing is the transformation of a Career/Job into just another Job. Con-way use to tout this as Career / Job you could retire from ( they did for many years)
I think now With Xpo there is no insentive for new employees to stay any longer than a stop gap until they gain experience or something better comes along. It's a perplexing matter . Hopefully the company will see the error in its way and correct it for the long term viability.
I doubt that's going to happen. But I hope they do for you guys. The best thing that can happen is a greater shortage of Drivers witch will bring about better compensation packages. I know that most all of my former CON-WAY co workers steered their children away from a Trucking career.
 
Yes feeder drivers. Those guys have it made probably the best driving job out there.
OK but they have standards to keep and time tables to make. How many of those drivers are sleeping on the side of the road. Getting paid at a high rate also a requirement of high standards
 
OK but they have standards to keep and time tables to make. How many of those drivers are sleeping on the side of the road. Getting paid at a high rate also a requirement of high standards
I don't see any of our drivers sleeping on the side of the road. With the GPS being weaponized now they would be a fool to do so ( unless their on lunch) I don't buy this crap that we don't work as hard as they do.
 
I doubt that's going to happen. But I hope they do for you guys. The best thing that can happen is a greater shortage of Drivers witch will bring about better compensation packages. I know that most all of my former CON-WAY co workers steered their children away from a Trucking career.
Yes I agree with that . I steered all my kids towards advanced degrees which they now use. They watched me struggle over the years with losing so much I think it only reaffirmed to them that the blue collar jobs no longer received the respect they deserved. I'm happy and proud of them that they won't have to fight to stay ahead.
 
I don't see any of our drivers sleeping on the side of the road. With the GPS being weaponized now they would be a fool to do so ( unless their on lunch) I don't buy this crap that we don't work as hard as they do.
I wasn't talk about working harder. when you go to the FAC how many driver are in the proper company uniform. A UPS driver is always in and there feeder driver too. Brown Shirt, pants/shorts, and socks with black shoes. That the standards I talking about
 
I wasn't talk about working harder. when you go to the FAC how many driver are in the proper company uniform. A UPS driver is always in and there feeder driver too. Brown Shirt, pants/shorts, and socks with black shoes. That the standards I talking about
I wear a clown outfit if they wanted to pay me that rate.
 
Now I understand what you are talking about, The 30 year 3000.00 deal is gone and for most that had 20 to 25 years in , the pay out would equates to about 1/3 of what one would get . I have my Pension statements and I would be highly pissed if that stole even more than they already have. I did figure it out , decided that it was not worth staying at the time that Lean was going full steam ahead . I'm just hoping that my pension doesn't take any more hits than it already has.


The smart ones got out early. At this point even the hard headed ones are starting to move on. Getting very awkward here. I wonder what happens to what's left of the CCX pension if the XPO LTL folds or is sold off ?
 
I think what we witnessed and my still be seeing is the transformation of a Career/Job into just another Job. Con-way use to tout this as Career / Job you could retire from ( they did for many years)
I think now With Xpo there is no insentive for new employees to stay any longer than a stop gap until they gain experience or something better comes along. It's a perplexing matter . Hopefully the company will see the error in its way and correct it for the long term viability.


Error in it's ways ? If anything the company seems frustrated that driver turnover hasn't happened quickly enough.
 
I wasn't talk about working harder. when you go to the FAC how many driver are in the proper company uniform. A UPS driver is always in and there feeder driver too. Brown Shirt, pants/shorts, and socks with black shoes. That the standards I talking about
Just remember both UPS and UPS Freight are union. We get overtime after 8 a pension and the benefits to match.
 
The smart ones got out early. At this point even the hard headed ones are starting to move on. Getting very awkward here. I wonder what happens to what's left of the CCX pension if the XPO LTL folds or is sold off ?
I hope that it is safe and not in XPO"s reach. Supposedly , the Pension is administered by independent
The smart ones got out early. At this point even the hard headed ones are starting to move on. Getting very awkward here. I wonder what happens to what's left of the CCX pension if the XPO LTL folds or is sold off ?
The Pension is supposed to be a separate from everything else and administered by a Third party with no access to the funds by XPO. Let's hope that it's that way for sure!!
 
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