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They have been pulling this crap for years, just a little at a time. From insurance copays, vacation, pension freeze/401k reduction, ICP, the list goes on. Sad part is most look at their paychecks bottom line and ignore the benifits package. A raise is useless if it all goes towards a cost increase for insurance. They have done a great job of thinning out the long term employees.
In our current strong economy and the driver shortage there is no reason our compensation/benefits should be diminished. If we don't see an improvement now then when?
 
In our current strong economy and the driver shortage there is no reason our compensation/benefits should be diminished. If we don't see an improvement now then when?
The shortage is a myth perpetrated by the ATA.
It keeps rates high for the carriers. The old capacity is tight routine.
It keeps the pay low for drivers. Look at all these jobs available, but most of them are entry level jobs paying $30k a year...
 
In the case of abf, I think I read drivers there get $340 or close to that per week contributed to the pension fund. Imagine getting that per week added to your 401 plus the other bennies they get.
In the case of abf, I think I read drivers there get $340 or close to that per week contributed to the pension fund. Imagine getting that per week added to your 401 plus the other bennies they get.
I think I heard it was like $110 per month per years of service $110x30 years= $3300 max at $3500 something like that
 
The shortage is a myth perpetrated by the ATA.
It keeps rates high for the carriers. The old capacity is tight routine.
It keeps the pay low for drivers. Look at all these jobs available, but most of them are entry level jobs paying $30k a year...
I said it before just because a company has a truck with a drive in it doesn't mean there is a shortage. I heard this same line for years and have spent hours and even a day at a truck stop waiting on a load.
 
In the case of abf, I think I read drivers there get $340 or close to that per week contributed to the pension fund. Imagine getting that per week added to your 401 plus the other bennies they get.


My wife had her employer convert to a 401K. You don't get that amount of even close to it invested into you. She has a simple match. 25 cents on the dollar up to a dollar. So if she saves 4 they put 5 in. Normal modern 401K. No 340 a week or whatever the equivalent example might be, going anywhere.
 
Where's the double like button at?
I've always thought that the pro union guys going simply after a pension is a waste of time. There are so many more important issues than that. A pension would be nice, but they are a thing of the past.


So many here are older and realize that the retirement options are bleak, and at that age with so few options, are desperately clinging to any hope that someone or anyone will fund their " golden years ".
 
Again we Had a pension plan that was well funded and the company decided to freeze it . That was a choice they made to cut future cost for them . They enhanced the 401k and diminished the enhancement the first chance they got. These are choices made by a company to downgrade the plans to save cost. It is affecting the hiring and maintaining of a decent workforce at this point and leaves current workers without a well funded retirement. You can not rely on corporations to do the right thing Unless it is bargained.


Stotlar was doing anything and everything to polish this turd and sell it.
 
They have been pulling this crap for years, just a little at a time. From insurance copays, vacation, pension freeze/401k reduction, ICP, the list goes on. Sad part is most look at their paychecks bottom line and ignore the benifits package. A raise is useless if it all goes towards a cost increase for insurance. They have done a great job of thinning out the long term employees.


Everyone with a brain left a long time ago. Most of them tell you " I told you so " when you call them up to chat.
 
Also, if folks don't think we need help with the regulation of sub-service use we are really in trouble. I think sub-service use is out of control. I am almost certain that it's not always utilized for reduction of empty miles. I think it's used for more revenue. Results matter.


It's not subservice anymore. We are the subservice. The company that bought us never owned it's own fleet until the purchases of Norbert and Con-way. They specialize in contract logistics and last mile delivery. We are only here to round out a portfolio. And if not for Menlo, he'd have likely bought something else.
 
The shortage is a myth perpetrated by the ATA.
It keeps rates high for the carriers. The old capacity is tight routine.
It keeps the pay low for drivers. Look at all these jobs available, but most of them are entry level jobs paying $30k a year...


Used to be a myth. No one wants this job. You can't get these kids to work. Average age of a truck driver is 49.
 
How do you figure I've been at UPGF for 16 years only saw 4 drivers quit at my barn and 2 of those didn't really have much of a choice.
The less turnover , usually , the higher the average age of drivers. Union companies had that going on , but now the have a lot of older drivers at the top that can't/won't retire and a lot of newer drivers and turnover at the bottom due to low pay and lots of hours.

... compared to how it used to be years ago.
 
Used to be a myth. No one wants this job. You can't get these kids to work. Average age of a truck driver is 49.
Name another industry that has an age barrier to get in. 21 for interstate. Many companies require at least 23. Makes that had to recruit out of high school. For many this is a hey i need to find a job, not a first second or fifth career choice. Then look at longevity. once you have that cdl, it isnt hard to switch companies. You doing the same thing, driving a truck. Look around. Many good and great companies will have drivers into their 70s or 80s. We just hired a 64year old. Some reports have the average age at 49 some at 42. Take 23 and 65, 44 is smack dab in the middle.
 
Ups package has no problems getting drivers at 36.77 an hour. Maybe if ltl wages had kept up with theirs we wouldn't have this problem. I know its hard for you guys that haven't been in the industry to realize that our hourly rate paralleled Ups packages at one time . The ltl pay stagnanted after deregulation and Ups marched ahead with decent increases and no loss of benefits. To attract drivers pay has to raise industry wide and customers will have to swallow the pill in rate increases.
The industry wants something for nothing ( bare minimum) and unfortunately it's not working. I know there more complexity to this than I stated here but that's the basic Problem. We can chase an O/R of 80 but remember to get there you have to take out cost in the operation and where is that going to come from?

I don't know but it seems to me that OD is able to do both... I know city drivers making north of 70 at straight time. Top pay now hourly is damn near 28...
 
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