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SAIA | The Noose Tightens... Saia continues to lead via threats rather than incentives.

bigbuck said:
For the life of me, I can't understand how inconsistent Saia is with policies and procedures. If it ever happened where they ended up in court for firing one employee, but not another, for the same offense...I'm guessing the settlement amount would be enough so that the proceedings never occurred and the terms kept secret. Drivers talk to each other, and tend to have each others' back. Consistency is key, and Saia is clearly missing it.
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They should have changed the quote on their older trucks from:

WE CARE
WE SHARE
to

WE VIEW
WE BOOT
 
othertrucker2001 said:
They should have changed the quote on their older trucks from:

WE CARE
WE SHARE
to

WE VIEW
WE BOOT
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I never had a problem with the cameras until they suspended me for that rolling stop. Two things really got under my skin. I did actually stop but the camera didn’t catch the first stop. It caught the second stop in which I creeped up because my view was obstructed. OK, that’s fine I can adjust to that and let that go. But what made me mad as hell is who in the **** suspends someone for a first offense. You at least get one written warning and maybe even two before you get suspended. Who ever decided that was the appropriate action to take for a first offense is a complete idiot. A complete ****ing moron made that call. Give a man a chance to correct his mistakes. Don’t strip him of his pride. Look at his driving record and if it has had previous careless acts then maybe. But not a man with a perfect driving record. Good grief some people are so ****ing stupid. Don’t lump everyone into the same category and not allow for special circumstances. I can’t tell you how many good drivers we have ran off because of this type of disciplinary approach. Most professionals won’t tolerate that type of behavior from management.
 
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I can’t tell you how many good drivers we have ran off because of this type of disciplinary approach. Most professionals won’t tolerate that type of behavior from management.

Was told last week 25 year DLS driver left for OD Garland.
 
Saia doesn’t care about your dignity, and you mention “pride.” They care even less about that. Wtf. What a joke
 
runawaytrain said:
I never had a problem with the cameras until they suspended me for that rolling stop. Two things really got under my skin. I did actually stop but the camera didn’t catch the first stop. It caught the second stop in which I creeped up because my view was obstructed. OK, that’s fine I can adjust to that and let that go. But what made me mad as hell is who in the :censored: suspends someone for a first offense. You at least get one written warning and maybe even two before you get suspended. Who ever decided that was the appropriate action to take for a first offense is a complete idiot. A complete :censored: moron made that call. Give a man a chance to correct his mistakes. Don’t strip him of his pride. Look at his driving record and if it has had previous careless acts then maybe. But not a man with a perfect driving record. Good grief some people are so :censored: stupid. Don’t lump everyone into the same category and not allow for special circumstances. I can’t tell you how many good drivers we have ran off because of this type of disciplinary approach. Most professionals won’t tolerate that type of behavior from management.
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What did you do prior to make the camera go off? What made it start flashing red?
 
roadboss said:
You can't do anything about your current situation,Can you.The make the rules as they go along ,suspend who and when they want.You have no choice quit and move on or (,take a stand.)
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The very epitome of a hostile work environment. And they relish it
 
runawaytrain said:
I never had a problem with the cameras until they suspended me for that rolling stop. Two things really got under my skin. I did actually stop but the camera didn’t catch the first stop. It caught the second stop in which I creeped up because my view was obstructed. OK, that’s fine I can adjust to that and let that go. But what made me mad as hell is who in the :censored: suspends someone for a first offense. You at least get one written warning and maybe even two before you get suspended. Who ever decided that was the appropriate action to take for a first offense is a complete idiot. A complete :censored: moron made that call. Give a man a chance to correct his mistakes. Don’t strip him of his pride. Look at his driving record and if it has had previous careless acts then maybe. But not a man with a perfect driving record. Good grief some people are so :censored: stupid. Don’t lump everyone into the same category and not allow for special circumstances. I can’t tell you how many good drivers we have ran off because of this type of disciplinary approach. Most professionals won’t tolerate that type of behavior from management.
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Humm your employer who you have given your all to has thrown you under the bus.
I would imagine that some card signing talk is coming to your beloved SAIA.
Retire and spend a few of those franklins you been hiding in soup cans in the yard.
 
Cab Lizzard said:
Humm your employer who you have given your all to has thrown you under the bus.
I would imagine that some card signing talk is coming to your beloved SAIA.
Retire and spend a few of those franklins you been hiding in soup cans in the yard.
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I wholeheartedly disagree with the way that Train was treated (given the information provided). But, I also do not think that the union is the best course of action.

A sad and unfortunate situation has been at Saia for quite some time. And that situation is the lack of focus and consistency when it comes to implementing and enforcing policy. Policies are instituted in what seems to be a very cavalier fashion. Then, the consequences are not fair and equal to all employees. It isn't right to punish one person, then pardon another...for the same offense. From what I saw at Saia, the interview and onboarding process is substantial in scope. So they hire (mostly) good people. Employees are your assets, not your liabilities.

These camera policies seem so inconsistent. It is only right that infractions be dealt with on a case by case basis. Train's "rolling stop" is a prime example of this. If the totality of the situation was taken into account, I think the outcome would have been different. But pulling a small chunk of time and punishing based on that information is really petty. What they should have done was take the entire situation and dissected it piece by piece. Then look at the driver's record itself. This was a great opportunity to coach and teach a pretty seasoned veteran behind the wheel. But rather than that approach, they did it their way and did nothing but aggravate and alienate (what looks to be) an experienced and competent driver.

You drivers should be watching your back constantly. Don't rush, take the extra time at an intersection, lock your trailers and your trucks, take all of your breaks. The only way that the company may take notice is if production and service falls. Your reply should simply be "I was safe, and no freight or equipment got damaged." This is their card game, you just have to know which cards to play and when. Be safe!
 
I say the card signing is in SAIA's future.
Reason being when the employee's are tired of the way they are treated, they use the U word to retaliate. Most is just talk but hey who knows their may even be an election or two.
Your last paragraph Buck is right on the money and should apply to anyone in LTL today. These company's spend lot's of money to hire and train their employee's. Then turn around and spend more to terminate them.
 
bigbuck said:
I wholeheartedly disagree with the way that Train was treated (given the information provided). But, I also do not think that the union is the best course of action.

A sad and unfortunate situation has been at Saia for quite some time. And that situation is the lack of focus and consistency when it comes to implementing and enforcing policy. Policies are instituted in what seems to be a very cavalier fashion. Then, the consequences are not fair and equal to all employees. It isn't right to punish one person, then pardon another...for the same offense. From what I saw at Saia, the interview and onboarding process is substantial in scope. So they hire (mostly) good people. Employees are your assets, not your liabilities.

These camera policies seem so inconsistent. It is only right that infractions be dealt with on a case by case basis. Train's "rolling stop" is a prime example of this. If the totality of the situation was taken into account, I think the outcome would have been different. But pulling a small chunk of time and punishing based on that information is really petty. What they should have done was take the entire situation and dissected it piece by piece. Then look at the driver's record itself. This was a great opportunity to coach and teach a pretty seasoned veteran behind the wheel. But rather than that approach, they did it their way and did nothing but aggravate and alienate (what looks to be) an experienced and competent driver.

You drivers should be watching your back constantly. Don't rush, take the extra time at an intersection, lock your trailers and your trucks, take all of your breaks. The only way that the company may take notice is if production and service falls. Your reply should simply be "I was safe, and no freight or equipment got damaged." This is their card game, you just have to know which cards to play and when. Be safe!
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And they will still beat the drivers down because they failed to meet that all mighty STOPS PER HOUR. Which by the way is a crime within it’s self. Two drivers leave the terminal at the same time. One has 15 minutes to his/her stops. The other has 90 minutes to his/her stops. Even if you give the second driver extra stops BEFORE their regular stops, you still have that extended drive time.
 
bigbuck said:
I wholeheartedly disagree with the way that Train was treated (given the information provided). But, I also do not think that the union is the best course of action.

A sad and unfortunate situation has been at Saia for quite some time. And that situation is the lack of focus and consistency when it comes to implementing and enforcing policy. Policies are instituted in what seems to be a very cavalier fashion. Then, the consequences are not fair and equal to all employees. It isn't right to punish one person, then pardon another...for the same offense. From what I saw at Saia, the interview and onboarding process is substantial in scope. So they hire (mostly) good people. Employees are your assets, not your liabilities.

These camera policies seem so inconsistent. It is only right that infractions be dealt with on a case by case basis. Train's "rolling stop" is a prime example of this. If the totality of the situation was taken into account, I think the outcome would have been different. But pulling a small chunk of time and punishing based on that information is really petty. What they should have done was take the entire situation and dissected it piece by piece. Then look at the driver's record itself. This was a great opportunity to coach and teach a pretty seasoned veteran behind the wheel. But rather than that approach, they did it their way and did nothing but aggravate and alienate (what looks to be) an experienced and competent driver.

You drivers should be watching your back constantly. Don't rush, take the extra time at an intersection, lock your trailers and your trucks, take all of your breaks. The only way that the company may take notice is if production and service falls. Your reply should simply be "I was safe, and no freight or equipment got damaged." This is their card game, you just have to know which cards to play and when. Be safe!
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Maybe Buck you can ask the manager that you would like to be the driver advocate fot your terminal.Not kidding,the squeaky wheel does get the grease.
 
Cab Lizzard said:
I say the card signing is in SAIA's future.
Reason being when the employee's are tired of the way they are treated, they use the U word to retaliate. Most is just talk but hey who knows their may even be an election or two.
Your last paragraph Buck is right on the money and should apply to anyone in LTL today. These company's spend lot's of money to hire and train their employee's. Then turn around and spend more to terminate them.
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They forget over there that O Dell's father in law used to work for us.All in the family.
 
bigbuck said:
I wholeheartedly disagree with the way that Train was treated (given the information provided). But, I also do not think that the union is the best course of action.

A sad and unfortunate situation has been at Saia for quite some time. And that situation is the lack of focus and consistency when it comes to implementing and enforcing policy. Policies are instituted in what seems to be a very cavalier fashion. Then, the consequences are not fair and equal to all employees. It isn't right to punish one person, then pardon another...for the same offense. From what I saw at Saia, the interview and onboarding process is substantial in scope. So they hire (mostly) good people. Employees are your assets, not your liabilities.

These camera policies seem so inconsistent. It is only right that infractions be dealt with on a case by case basis. Train's "rolling stop" is a prime example of this. If the totality of the situation was taken into account, I think the outcome would have been different. But pulling a small chunk of time and punishing based on that information is really petty. What they should have done was take the entire situation and dissected it piece by piece. Then look at the driver's record itself. This was a great opportunity to coach and teach a pretty seasoned veteran behind the wheel. But rather than that approach, they did it their way and did nothing but aggravate and alienate (what looks to be) an experienced and competent driver.

You drivers should be watching your back constantly. Don't rush, take the extra time at an intersection, lock your trailers and your trucks, take all of your breaks. The only way that the company may take notice is if production and service falls. Your reply should simply be "I was safe, and no freight or equipment got damaged." This is their card game, you just have to know which cards to play and when. Be safe!
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I've been playing this poker game over fourty years.You have to know when to hold em and know when to fold em.Our just walk away when the dealings done.
 
runawaytrain said:
I never had a problem with the cameras until they suspended me for that rolling stop. Two things really got under my skin. I did actually stop but the camera didn’t catch the first stop. It caught the second stop in which I creeped up because my view was obstructed. OK, that’s fine I can adjust to that and let that go. But what made me mad as hell is who in the :censored: suspends someone for a first offense. You at least get one written warning and maybe even two before you get suspended. Who ever decided that was the appropriate action to take for a first offense is a complete idiot. A complete :censored: moron made that call. Give a man a chance to correct his mistakes. Don’t strip him of his pride. Look at his driving record and if it has had previous careless acts then maybe. But not a man with a perfect driving record. Good grief some people are so :censored: stupid. Don’t lump everyone into the same category and not allow for special circumstances. I can’t tell you how many good drivers we have ran off because of this type of disciplinary approach. Most professionals won’t tolerate that type of behavior from management.
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Change employers. problem solved.
Ask yourself this. If you knew SAIA treated their drivers like they do today when you interviewed with them, would you be working there? Like I said, the grass has got to be greener on the other side. Find a better employer.von.
 
vongrimmenstein said:
Change employers. problem solved.
Ask yourself this. If you knew SAIA treated their drivers like they do today when you interviewed with them, would you be working there? Like I said, the grass has got to be greener on the other side. Find a better employer.von.
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Von, every one can't work for Coop Dispatch, consider yourself lucky, you know how picky Dave can be!
 
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