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:funky:let me tell ya a question ! before i came to work for their -WAY i was fined (150.00) and made to run over my unit:nutkick: and sweep it up... at the e-town south bound scale on 65, that or log book fine and out of service for 8 hours my choice....:smilie_132: would have been harder to explain the 8 hour late delivery ......thats not a option at their-WAY....
 
Absolutely true story, I was there, watched him escorted out to the truck to ride home. I talked to him several months after, once he had returned to work....his story was that he had just stopped at a truck stop a short while before arriving at the FAC, purchased the unit as a gift for a relative, the receipt was in the bag, dated and time stamped just like he said. That and the fact that he had just a couple of weeks prior, had won his division at his state truck driving championships, got him the job back. I think the important point from this is, nothing, but nothing can come to work with you, that you don't want the company to see.:nono:
 
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Why would you have a Radar Detector in a 62 mile an hour truck? He should not lose his job for that, but he should be reprimanded for being an idiot.
 
I know lots of con-way drivers that used to have them,but after being castraited to 62 they leave them at home now!
 
aat0205 said:
It is illegal to carry a radar detector on you commercial vehicle but Did conway has a policy to fire a driver for having one while operating a comercial vehicle and when do this policy took effect? did anybody knows anyone in the company that got fire without any warning and did he got his job back or just a l.o.i for this matter?It looks like they are trying to fire everybody lately to increase profit and save on benefits
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radar detectors are illegal in trucks..reinforced by most state laws...i would also imagine they would incur a very serious liability for insurance purposes so as i could see why they would terminate someone for this violation...

i do believe that your termination for something like this would be a good termination..as i am no lawyer or anything i could assume that a law such as that being willfully broken by an employee would be a stand up boot out the door.
 
SEASIDE said:
Welcome management! Please let us know what dept. you are from. It is always a pleasure to know you are listening!
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not sticking in kudos to that guy management! and certainly not intending to be offensive, but i can already tell i think he is less then up front kind of person, but i do have to add...what difference does it make what level of management he/she is in, or what terminal/office he/she is at? Just curious is all...
 
Merdock said:
I would think federal law trumps company policy. Federal law says you may not posses or operate a radar detector in a commercial vehicle and no carrier shall permit or require a driver to violate that law. That's been the law since 1994

However, I don't know if progressive discipline (loi, suspension, termination) or immediate termination would result from violating this rule.
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I would think it to be similar to knowingly pulling an over weight trailer/set...something the company can and will get fined for...so tolerance is probably zilch...
 
FOS tells a driver to 'bump' his trailer after being told it's a few hundred pounds overweight then the driver ends up a few hours at a weight station, FOS gets fired. Don't know if the FOS was in deep doo doo anyway but he did get his job back.

ccxnobody said:
I would think it to be similar to knowingly pulling an over weight trailer/set...something the company can and will get fined for...so tolerance is probably zilch...
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TiredDvrsWife said:
FOS tells a driver to 'bump' his trailer after being told it's a few hundred pounds overweight then the driver ends up a few hours at a weight station, FOS gets fired. Don't know if the FOS was in deep doo doo anyway but he did get his job back.
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This is probably obvious to most, but DON"T BUMP A TRAILER (forward or back) to "fix" an over-axle situation. First off, it's dangerous. I know of one situation in particular where a driver tried to "slide" some weight off the drives by spiking the brakes in reverse. Well, the freight on a load rack at the rear broke through the back door of the pup and onto the yard. OOPS! Try explaining that one. Secondly, if you're lucky enough to keep the freight in the trailer, it's going to fall forward or back and SOMEBODY has to break that trailer eventually. We've all dealt with trailers that have shifted freight on them and it ain't fun. :soapbox:
 
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aat0205 said:
It is illegal to carry a radar detector on you commercial vehicle but Did conway has a policy to fire a driver for having one while operating a comercial vehicle and when do this policy took effect? did anybody knows anyone in the company that got fire without any warning and did he got his job back or just a l.o.i for this matter?It looks like they are trying to fire everybody lately to increase profit and save on benefits
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WHY WOULD YOU WANT OR FOR THAT MATTER NEED A RADAR DETECTOR IN A CONWAY TRUCK/ GET A LIFE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE:chairshot::hysterical::biglaugh::smilie_132:
 
primadona said:
Like it or not, it's THEIR truck, their rules. Every terminal I've seen has a sign posted when you walk through the gate that says they are able to search whatever they want. It would be nice to have the privacy, but it's not realistic. I don't understand why anyone takes chances with linears or radar detectors, is it worth your job to be able to talk 10 miles away or to know where the cops are when you can only go 62mph anyway.
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You can post all the signs you want, practice all the beliefs you want, but you will always have the right to refuse a company search not mandated or supported by a law...and anyone who does search your unlocked vehicle for whatever reason better make sure they do not take that mortgage payment you had in the envelope in the zipped bag next to your sealed in a box radar detector...

We are afforded these rights and they are not limited to law enforcement...now on the other side of the coin, refusing to unlock your car or submit to a personal search by a member of conway would possibly be grounds for termination, but that would more then likely end in litigation with more then adequate possibilities of conway losing...so i do not foresee them doing it...
 
ccxnobody said:
You can post all the signs you want, practice all the beliefs you want, but you will always have the right to refuse a company search not mandated or supported by a law...and anyone who does search your unlocked vehicle for whatever reason better make sure they do not take that mortgage payment you had in the envelope in the zipped bag next to your sealed in a box radar detector...

We are afforded these rights and they are not limited to law enforcement...now on the other side of the coin, refusing to unlock your car or submit to a personal search by a member of conway would possibly be grounds for termination, but that would more then likely end in litigation with more then adequate possibilities of conway losing...so i do not foresee them doing it...
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meh
tell that to all these middle and high school kids who are pitching fits over their lockers and book bags being searched on campus. random searches without warrents or probable cause. if your employer posts notice that you and/or your bags are subject to search upon entering or leaving the premises, and you continue on to the premises, then you are giving implied consent for such searches. don't like it? leave your bag in your car trunk or something. random searches have been challenged, and upheld. and yes, if you tell con-way that you do NOT consent to the searches, then con-way has the right to tell you to not come onto their property. you can't work if you can't come on the property. you get fired for not showing up to work. simple as that.
 
Digital Import said:
meh
tell that to all these middle and high school kids who are pitching fits over their lockers and book bags being searched on campus. random searches without warrents or probable cause. if your employer posts notice that you and/or your bags are subject to search upon entering or leaving the premises, and you continue on to the premises, then you are giving implied consent for such searches. don't like it? leave your bag in your car trunk or something. random searches have been challenged, and upheld. and yes, if you tell con-way that you do NOT consent to the searches, then con-way has the right to tell you to not come onto their property. you can't work if you can't come on the property. you get fired for not showing up to work. simple as that.
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I do believe the schools and such are in districts which are passing laws/ordinances to facilitate such searches...

That is comparing apples to oranges anyways...protecting a bunch of kids from violance at school is a little different then trying to protect a companies assets.
 
Digital Import said:
meh
tell that to all these middle and high school kids who are pitching fits over their lockers and book bags being searched on campus. random searches without warrents or probable cause. if your employer posts notice that you and/or your bags are subject to search upon entering or leaving the premises, and you continue on to the premises, then you are giving implied consent for such searches. don't like it? leave your bag in your car trunk or something. random searches have been challenged, and upheld. and yes, if you tell con-way that you do NOT consent to the searches, then con-way has the right to tell you to not come onto their property. you can't work if you can't come on the property. you get fired for not showing up to work. simple as that.
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Implied consent? Hardly. Cases upholding? Have never heard of such a thing.

Bottom line is simple...if you do not want your bag/car/person searched by any other then a law enforcement or related entity, you do not have to subject yourself to it. I already stated you would most likely be terminated as that is a given. Simple choices for one to consider.

I would believe from a corporate stand point it would be a questionable move to search just any one individual. Probably would attract a few lawsuits...if a company believes you to be a thief, a danger, etc, they would call local law enforcement i think and let them handle it to remove any such liability from themselves.
 
You know thinking more on this issue of search...the company formerly known as CCX (sounds like an artist i have heard of), used to post about how you should bring things for emergency preparedness, ie..winter clothing etc. Since emergency preparedness to my knowledge has never been defined by conway, they encourage you to bring with you to work everynight what it is you feel you may need in the event of an emergency. Now obviously, this would be barring items which are deemed illegal whether it be unique to requirements of the CFR or any other items deemed illegal by federal, state and/or local laws. But for the most part, I do believe these practices could help one in the time of need in litigation. Maybe I do not want my TM or the regional safety guy to see my purple thong undies i keep in my bag, maybe i do not want them to see my medications i keep in my work bag in the event of an extended layover due to unforeseen events...i as an American have many many rights to my privacy, the corporations know this and yet they prey on ignorance of their employees. What you deem is a requirement for an unplanned stay over somewhere, may not be what i see as a requirement. If I carry a carton of smokes in my bag which happens to be of the same brand in which we haul as freight, does this make me an automatic thief and allow a corporation to search my car because someone else saw this carton and the skid of freight and didnt like me or heaven forbid trying to suck up and tells management i am stealing stuff, does this give management the right to search my vehicle? Nope. Is there a legal requirement for me to keep a receipt showing I purchased this carton? Nope. Should I expect to have to keep a receipt in case all of a sudden the above scenario unfolds? I wouldnt think so.

I believe their signs and such are more of a deterrence for the less informed. There are far too many loop holes for one to successfully litigate a refusal to search/termination that i believe conway not to be that stupid to follow through with one.
 
Digital Import said:
meh
tell that to all these middle and high school kids who are pitching fits over their lockers and book bags being searched on campus. random searches without warrents or probable cause. if your employer posts notice that you and/or your bags are subject to search upon entering or leaving the premises, and you continue on to the premises, then you are giving implied consent for such searches. don't like it? leave your bag in your car trunk or something. random searches have been challenged, and upheld. and yes, if you tell con-way that you do NOT consent to the searches, then con-way has the right to tell you to not come onto their property. you can't work if you can't come on the property. you get fired for not showing up to work. simple as that.
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They are minors ... we are not .. they cant search your bags without consent or a warrant even if it is in conway's truck. They cant search your car either.
 
For all of the junior lawyers out here, go in tomorrow and tell them you are not allowing them to look through your stuff while on company property and if they do that you are going to file a lawsuit. Bottom line-their ball, their game, their field, their rules.
 
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