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I just read a post from Fisherman XJA calling CCX communist central express...

After reading this little message mocking us all i started to think...I hired on in 1999. I noticed quickly CCX is a very very controlling type of company. Many times I thought to myself someone in the top must have come from the military bringing with them their military discipline, etc. And during those thoughts came the answer...this isnt the military and why would someone try to pretend they had the same level of control over these employees that the military exercises over their people??? Never could figure that out.

Now a few years later, I still see it prevalent at mainly the lower levels of management smacking us around daily with you cans and cants lists...

To you really old times...how did this take hold and form into what conway has become? Where did the control freaks originate from?
 
I've heard that people with the attitude of YOU and US were hired and took over. Now it's not EVERYONE any more. I was told that it's kinda between a union feeling (make driver do what's against the rules and YOU have to pay him a fine out of your pocket) and youngsters straight out of college that are out for the big bucks and wanting to tell you what to do. Overeducated idiots.

Just what I've been told. I don't know for a fact.

Oh, not knocking Unions, but was told that everyone had their place in the system and you couldn't touch the union driver unless you wanted to pay out of your pocket. Attitudes formed among many but NOT ALL so don't go shooting me down over this, I'm repeating what I heard not what I know.
 
My $0.02:
My experience is that when companies are bought and sold, it's usually by guys with finance backgrounds and they are generally CLUELESS as to what goes on in the field... just saying....
 
Hub-City has it right. When the accountants take over, and have no real get your hands dirty work experience, thing get like they are now. I worked for a contruction outfit years ago that was bought by a lrg waste mngmnt company. When the accountants took over, things went downhill, they folded it, flipped it and f***ed us all out of our jobs. When the family spirit is gone and its all about counting pennies, common sense is lost. Some guy with a degree and no manual labour experince starts armchair quarterbacking what you do. Then you get angry and he thinks your a hothead next thing you know you are shown the door.
 
Detter left and so did his attitude. he actually appreciated what the drivers contributed to the company and realized that they were the "salesman" of the company. He actually cared about the image that was put forth by the drivers and keeping them involved in the company was very important to him. Now, we have bean-counters that have no relation to trucking, just business. There was a nice balance of business to trucking before, now it is way too biased towards numbers. I am hopeful that the old attitude will return, because I still have confidence that we really can become the "leader" again. I plan on sticking with it and doing what I can to help return Con-way to what we used to be.
 
I had the priviledge of going to college while in my 30's and seeing the 18-24 year olds with education but no knowledge, no common sense, nothing. Nada. Just the car that mommy and daddy bought them along with the $500 shoes.
A professor stated that WE would be hired because WE, the Students, were showing that we were willing to take classes to learn and be on top of our game. I took that to mean that if you don't have B.S. after your name, then you are F.U. Common sense isn't a value wanted any more.

Great example: Remember NEW COKE and how it caused Coca Cola to drop from #1 to #2 in the cola wars? Well, some fresh out of college big shot with all kinds of letters after his name was hired on, to see if he could bring in more profits. His great idea was to retire the old coke and sell new coke. Everything went into the crapper after that and now I'm wondering what street corner is he working? Or did he managed to BS his way into a another position somewhere else?

Then there were the classes here in the US based on how Japan's management style (of the 80-90's). Everyone the same, few managers and if a problem presented itself then they grouped together and talked it out. And got the problem solved, not talked to the idiot with no experience and a long line of letters after his name.
One of their problems was shipments of the new CD's were coming back with damage. They had to figure it out. Well, the workers that dealt with it came up with a .50 per worker item: wearing gloves so their finger nails wouldn't scratch the CD's. After that returns were nearly non-exsistant.

Bean counters that think they know everything can ruin anything.
 
...............I plan on sticking with it and doing what I can to help return Con-way to what we used to be.

OK, I'll help. But tell me how we're going to do that first. Keep in mind that it will take a decade before they earn my trust again, although the respect could be earned quicker. Don't we need a leader that can lead?

Oh, and I kinda have to care about Conway too. These wounds received from our lost pension, sick days, health bennies, and soon OT.....etc, and the way we are treated all need to heal before I can walk normal again and give it 110%.

Otherwise, I am on partial disability, but if you need me to remind our co-units what it was like and how competitive enhancements have changed us to what we are now, I can do that.
 
Detter left and so did his attitude. he actually appreciated what the drivers contributed to the company and realized that they were the "salesman" of the company. He actually cared about the image that was put forth by the drivers and keeping them involved in the company was very important to him. Now, we have bean-counters that have no relation to trucking, just business. There was a nice balance of business to trucking before, now it is way too biased towards numbers. I am hopeful that the old attitude will return, because I still have confidence that we really can become the "leader" again. I plan on sticking with it and doing what I can to help return Con-way to what we used to be.


Who in the upper management hasnt been with conway for many many many years? John L (I am way too cool for a tie) I am not sure of or cant recall, but the remainders and those who have come to power and left (Dave Mc :last as example) were all prior management for a long time type of people/things...
 
This attitude stems from the elitist ideas that are rampant in our country today. If you haven't noticed already, there is a class war taking place in America. The powers that be desire a return to the days of 'robber barons', a two class systems of lords and serfs...we refer to it as the 'haves and have-nots'. By the attitudes they convey I'm sure you can conclude were they've placed you/us. This attitude is how the Federal Reserve justifies bailing out the banks during this sub-prime debacle while allowing the home owners to fail.
 
A lot of guy's like to say things were better when jerry was in charge. When I started, Jerry d. and Dick P., the founder's of the company, were very much in charge and I was treated like a dog back then by local management. I never saw a change in the management style when they left.
 
This attitude stems from the elitist ideas that are rampant in our country today. If you haven't noticed already, there is a class war taking place in America. The powers that be desire a return to the days of 'robber barons', a two class systems of lords and serfs...we refer to it as the 'haves and have-nots'. By the attitudes they convey I'm sure you can conclude were they've placed you/us. This attitude is how the Federal Reserve justifies bailing out the banks during this sub-prime debacle while allowing the home owners to fail.
A war takes to sides. We, the have-nots' ,are to busy running around the wheel to realize what is happening. Thus, there is no war. We are all just happy running around the wheel.
 
Your right

A lot of guy's like to say things were better when jerry was in charge. When I started, Jerry d. and Dick P., the founder's of the company, were very much in charge and I was treated like a dog back then by local management. I never saw a change in the management style when they left.

There was always some bad local and regional managers in place when Detter was here. There always will be. But for the company as a whole, things have gotten bad since Detter and his management left. There was a whole different attitude back then, a good one. Now with Dave M. in charge, it seems like management thinks were all here to screw off and stick it to them when we can. They seem to think were trying to bone them all the time. I even here FOS's bad mouthing the way upper management runs this company. Its an intimidation factor. The company wants us all to feel intimidated and on edge all the time, to fear mangement. Kinda like the media works now adays. The fear factor.
 
take the ask for one more.....most of the people you deal with on the loading dock, dont care or dont have any say in who hauls that SKID, asking should be done when you see that one left from yesterday, YES, we are the ones one the front line, reminding us to ask when we call in all stops, makes bad will for ALL
 
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I just read a post from Fisherman XJA calling CCX communist central express...
unions would not let this happen! just saying haha
After reading this little message mocking us all i started to think...I hired on in 1999. I noticed quickly CCX is a very very controlling type of company. Many times I thought to myself someone in the top must have come from the military bringing with them their military discipline, etc. And during those thoughts came the answer...this isnt the military and why would someone try to pretend they had the same level of control over these employees that the military exercises over their people??? Never could figure that out.

Now a few years later, I still see it prevalent at mainly the lower levels of management smacking us around daily with you cans and cants lists...

To you really old times...how did this take hold and form into what conway has become? Where did the control freaks originate from?
 
Spent ten years in the U.S Army working on tanks.Mud,sweat and yes dropped some blood along the way.Although people have *****es,gripes and complaints in any field of work they chose.THIS ISNT THE MILITARY.Not by any stretch of the imagination.When Con-Way takes away 9 of your basic Constitutional rights get back with me.Not trying to start a debate or anything just stating a fact based on actual life experience.
 
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