XPO | Seniority

I just started here after 35 years OTR so am still trying to figure out this LTL thing. Recently I was number 2 for an evening linehaul. Being low man on the totem pole this is understandable. I was told my start time was 915PM, the senior driver was 845PM.......all going to same location. My set was already hooked. Now I've been told I can punch in up to 7 minutes early, so at 908 I punch in & head out to the truck. The 845 driver was running late & came in as I was punching the clock. when I went to the truck he was starting his paperwork. I was fixing to leave when the FOS came running out & said I couldn't leave until after the senior guy left the yard. When I asked why All she said was "all hell would break loose" if I left before him because he had seniority. I sat there for about 5 minutes till he came out & left. No big deal, but I am curious as to what would have happened if I had left before him.

Nothing would have happened to you by Con-way ... but the "senior driver" probably would have attempted to stick it to you any chance he possibly could. If the senior driver was not there at his punch time he is suppose to be skipped and the number 2 or 3 or 4 driver is suppose to go if the loads are ready. In turn the FOS was "taking care of his buddy" and in turn you got it stuck to you by the good ole boy thinking that goes on in some Minnesota terminals. If loads are ready and the guy ahead of you is not there at hook time ... he is suppose to be skipped. Talk to your SCM .. if he has any integrity he will fix this.

wonderring99 said:

Nothing would have happened to you by Con-way ... but the "senior driver" probably would have attempted to stick it to you any chance he possibly could. If the senior driver was not there at his punch time he is suppose to be skipped and the number 2 or 3 or 4 driver is suppose to go if the loads are ready. In turn the FOS was "taking care of his buddy" and in turn you got it stuck to you by the good ole boy thinking that goes on in some Minnesota terminals. If loads are ready and the guy ahead of you is not there at hook time ... he is suppose to be skipped. Talk to your SCM .. if he has any integrity he will fix this.

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Thanks for the comeback! I didn't feel that I was getting it stuck to me though that might have been the case. I just don't see what the benefit is to one leaving before the other. What I'm saying is why would it have bothered the senior driver that I left before him. Is there a plus to leaving sooner than another guy? Now on the other hand if I'd have waited more than the 5 minutes(caught up on paperwork) I might have been miffed. I'm still trying to figure all the ins & outs of this operation & it seems everyday something new pops up.

CorkyF60 said:

Thanks for the comeback! I didn't feel that I was getting it stuck to me though that might have been the case. I just don't see what the benefit is to one leaving before the other. What I'm saying is why would it have bothered the senior driver that I left before him. Is there a plus to leaving sooner than another guy? Now on the other hand if I'd have waited more than the 5 minutes(caught up on paperwork) I might have been miffed. I'm still trying to figure all the ins & outs of this operation & it seems everyday something new pops up.

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Even if you left before him lets say five minutes and you arrive at lets say XMP before him but you both arrived ON TIME to the reship he would remain number one leaving because he was on time also .. not many supervisors understand this rule or know it .. I still say he was taking care of his buddy. If a driver is not there for his punch time he is suppose to be skipped.

wonderring99 said:

Even if you left before him lets say five minutes and you arrive at lets say XMP before him but you both arrived ON TIME to the reship he would remain number one leaving because he was on time also .. not many supervisors understand this rule or know it .. I still say he was taking care of his buddy. If a driver is not there for his punch time he is suppose to be skipped.

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Most places "first in first out". Schedule times count if you have a via.

CorkyF60 said:

Thanks for the comeback! I didn't feel that I was getting it stuck to me though that might have been the case. I just don't see what the benefit is to one leaving before the other. What I'm saying is why would it have bothered the senior driver that I left before him. Is there a plus to leaving sooner than another guy? Now on the other hand if I'd have waited more than the 5 minutes(caught up on paperwork) I might have been miffed. I'm still trying to figure all the ins & outs of this operation & it seems everyday something new pops up.

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hahaha, welcome to con-way it's not just you even us senior/veteran drivers experience this.....

also i think Corky wasnt informed of is the first in first out policy....
most FAC's operate this way...

if you arrive first you leave first at the fac..
...most senior guys want to go home first...which usually means less (or none at all) dockwork to deal with, less change of traffic, and not being forced on a pointless via (pointless finance wise for the DSR) or various other reasons

also first packets are usually ready on time and leading up (down?) ...the final packets are not always on time....meaning you punch in later when u get your packets meaning u start getting paid later, meaning your hanging around at the terminal for free....bottom line ur not making any money

i hope your starting to understand the first in first out policy and why senior drivers would want to take advantage of it....

if that senior driver wasnt on time to receive his hooks it is the fos responsibility to make sure someone gets to reship ontime. but obviously the fos dropped the balll ,.and as said in another comment ."all hell would break loose" basically the senior driver would whine and cry for days untill the TM done soemthing about it .