service update

You cannot stand it, can you. Go do something productive!

Nope just like to get the truth out to counter joak harbor lies, and we are VERY productive at it!:biglaugh:

The vanderfools seam to like lying to try to cover up their stupidity, and we just like to show every one how bad they are at it.:duh:
Have you thought about trying something a little more productive? You seem to be very pro joak harbor, whats the matter things a little slow in the office there?
 
we heard today that trucks were leaving the yard without any name on the side is this true? Did anyone in Auburn follow to see where these trucks were going?
 
yes, they are taking freight to REI which is why the union has started a campaign informing REI's customers of their deception.
 
yes, they are taking freight to REI which is why the union has started a campaign informing REI's customers of their deception.

They are also using unmarked trucks in the Portland area to move United Warehouse in Vancouver. The Oak Harbor upper management and the VanderFOOLs have probably convinced themselves they have got one over on us. I think it's time for a learning experience:chairshot:. REI backed out of use of Oak H and got praise and a positive response from those who knew of this situation, now to be using Oak H again?:duh:
 
They are also using an outfit called Pacific Cascade pulling McKinney trlrs, but that's where they are going. They tried using the unmarked deal to try and deliver 2 trlrs to PSE but we were able to get about ten people there within mins. and PSE refused the second trlr.
 
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Our labor unions are not narrow, self-seeking groups. They have raised wages, shortened hours, and provided supplemental benefits. Through collective bargaining and grievance procedures, they have brought justice and democracy to the shop floor.—John F. Kennedy
 
Our labor unions are not narrow, self-seeking groups. They have raised wages, shortened hours, and provided supplemental benefits. Through collective bargaining and grievance procedures, they have brought justice and democracy to the shop floor.—John F. Kennedy

Can we email this to Ed & Dave?
 
To truck chick, don't see why you couldn't send the qoute to the Vanderpols but think that they are to full of themselves to think it applies to them. This is my first post/reply to this or any forum and have been out on the line the whole time. Do want to say that it has been an honor to know ALL my fellow teamters that have hung in there in these tough times that we are going thruogh and thank you for being there for me also. My last job was with a non-union co. and if God is willing I will never go back to one again.
 
From oakh.com;

Service

We finished January at 97.80% on time. This is not our normal 98%, however, this was not a normal January. We are very happy to report that even with the delays due to weather we managed to improve our damage and shortage notations per 1000 shipments over last year. The weather may have impacted our service times however our freight handling improved.


When you handle very little freight, very little damage occurs, we still see your drivers sitting for hours with nothing to do, the empty trailers still sit end to end, I bet some of the brakes are fused together by now!


Negotiations

Last week we made a significant step by resolving the unfair labor charges filed against us by the Teamsters. The Teamsters have filed a total of 6 charges against us. The two most serious charges were withdrawn by the Teamsters, and an equally serious charge of not negotiating in good faith, (surface bargaining) was dismissed by the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB). The company agreed to settle the three minor charges once we reached an agreement with the NLRB. In the settlement with the NLRB we do not admit that we did anything illegal. We believe the resolution of the Teamster charges against Oak Harbor to be a significant step forward because the manner that these charges were resolved shows that we have respected our employee’s right to work and their right to strike.


Nothing is resolved yet, these charges will not be resolved until Oak Harbor is in compliance with the settlement agreement, the surface bargaining charge has been appealed by the Teamsters. I would swear I read a letter sent to all employees admitting guilt in three cases of violation of the NLRA. You have shown no respect for anything, the fact that you were forced into a settlement with the NLRB is proof that you have not treated your employees equitably.


We agreed to this settlement because we believe the three remaining charges to be insignificant to the labor dispute. By removing the Teamster charges as an element in the strike we are hoping all parties can now move forward. Again, we do not believe we did anything illegal and said so in the NLRB settlement agreement.

The charges are still pending your compliance with the settlement agreement and pending the resolution of the surface bargaining charge still in appeal. And if anyone has seen the charges two of the charges have at least five different violations a piece. You have never wanted these negotiation to move forward, other wise you would have a contract and your dedicated long time employees would still be servicing their loyal customers rather than picketing them a leafleting.

This clears all current unfair labor practices filed against Oak Harbor. We believe that in the next 60-120 days we should have greater clarity in how progress towards resolving the labor dispute will occur. We will continue our communications to you as the strike evolves.

Surface bargaining charge is still in appeal status, you have been forced to rectify several of the charges meaning they had merit, even though an official admission of guilt was not admitted. Hey plenty of criminals never admit guilt in open court, doesn't make what you have done here anywhere near justified.

It is my understanding that as a condition of this settlement agreement the VP's must reinstate all strikers who took part in the Unfair Labor Practice action, in doing so all replacements should be pushed out of their positions by union employees as the company will not be allowed to operate with replacements. For customers this could be a potential nightmare and lead to serious service disruptions in the near future it the company continues to string along negotiations as it has up to this point.
 
Come on man do you really believe that those 3 little minor ulp's from a few whining Auburn boys really warrant the damage it has caused all of us. Appeal all they want, just leaves us warming the curb a lot longer. Lets be real, this was never about ULP's. If it were it certainly should have been one that was worth all of this. Just a thought!
 
Come on man do you really believe that those 3 little minor ulp's from a few whining Auburn boys really warrant the damage it has caused all of us. Appeal all they want, just leaves us warming the curb a lot longer. Lets be real, this was never about ULP's. If it were it certainly should have been one that was worth all of this. Just a thought!

There is no such thing as a minor ULP, plus direct dealing bypassing the union is a pretty serious offense in my book. Apparently the board thinks these offenses are very serious, and that's why they have imposed the conditions of the settlement on Oak Harbor.
 
I have heard the company is being forced by the NLRB to post a do's and don'ts list for 60 days. That isn't because they want to. It is because they are being forced to. That in and of itself tells me that the members of Oak Harbor's jobs are protected and the ***** will be going away shortly. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I have heard the company is being forced by the NLRB to post a do's and don'ts list for 60 days. That isn't because they want to. It is because they are being forced to. That in and of itself tells me that the members of Oak Harbor's jobs are protected and the ***** will be going away shortly. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really, company's are required to post the minimum wage, workers comp filing procedures and that it's against the law to discriminate. Do you really think that anything the NLRB requires Oak Harbor to "post" will amount to much of anything? The amount of wages and benifits that have been lost hardly justifies the penalties.
 
The NLRB saying that there is merit that indeed it is an unfair labor strike is pretty powerful in my book. That alone is a win.

The remaining charges out there are complience issues, in the buisness world, about the same as a slap on the wrist, sent to your room without supper. Go to Oakhanswers and read the letters from the NLRB, unlike what the Union has done by posting a fax that has no credibility. No letter head, signature. At least at Oak Answers you see the documents in their entirety. I think if you guys want to work it is time to put down the signs and try to put it back together with what is left. Hopefully the layoffs won't last to long and everyone who wants a job can go back to one.
 
The remaining charges out there are complience issues, in the buisness world, about the same as a slap on the wrist, sent to your room without supper. Go to Oakhanswers and read the letters from the NLRB, unlike what the Union has done by posting a fax that has no credibility. No letter head, signature. At least at Oak Answers you see the documents in their entirety. I think if you guys want to work it is time to put down the signs and try to put it back together with what is left. Hopefully the layoffs won't last to long and everyone who wants a job can go back to one.

I think everybody would like to put down the signs. Problem is that there has been a year and a half when negotiations could have been moving forward but nobody has done so. At this point does anybody think anything has changed? Both sides need to get serious if the union wants jobs and the company wants to exist. It would be nice if both sides agreed to a binding arbitration not mediation as the latter can only make suggestions. Lets face it the trust is gone on both sides.Without a guaranteed time frame to work with,
like a year or so, neither party is likely to find enough common ground for a contract. The company needs to understand the business advantage of having their employees back and the union needs to better comprehend the current nature of the economy. It's time to quit exchanging punches and see if an equitable fix can be had.
 
The remaining charges out there are complience issues, in the buisness world, about the same as a slap on the wrist, sent to your room without supper. Go to Oakhanswers and read the letters from the NLRB, unlike what the Union has done by posting a fax that has no credibility. No letter head, signature. At least at Oak Answers you see the documents in their entirety. I think if you guys want to work it is time to put down the signs and try to put it back together with what is left. Hopefully the layoffs won't last to long and everyone who wants a job can go back to one.

I think everybody would like to put down the signs. Problem is that there has been a year and a half when negotiations could have been moving forward but nobody has done so. At this point does anybody think anything has changed? Both sides need to get serious if the union wants jobs and the company wants to exist. It would be nice if both sides agreed to a binding arbitration not mediation as the latter can only make suggestions. Lets face it the trust is gone on both sides.Without a guaranteed time frame to work with
like a year or so neither party is likely to find enough common ground for a contract. The company needs to understand the business advantage of having their employees back and the union needs to better comprehend the current nature of the economy. It's time to quit exchanging punches and see if an equitable fix can be had.
 
Really, company's are required to post the minimum wage, workers comp filing procedures and that it's against the law to discriminate. Do you really think that anything the NLRB requires Oak Harbor to "post" will amount to much of anything? The amount of wages and benifits that have been lost hardly justifies the penalties.

I think it would serve the greed brothers right if they were forced to pay back wages, but I'm not holding my breath. I still think that joak harbor is pretty much like a Thanksgiving turkey.........DONE! Even if joak harbor were to actually bargain in good faith (which I do NOT see happening) The boys have already destroyed daddy's company. It will be nothing more then a mere shell of what it was. Just another tiny third rate carrier commonly referred as "joak harbor" Simply because that is what they have become.
They can keep their trip over a dollar to save a dime attitude. They have a dispatcher that could not dispatch his way out of a wet paper bag, even when he isn't hung over or still half drunk (either that he was intentionally screwing drivers over for personal power trip satisfaction, or both). Supervisors that spend more time doing anything BUT their jobs (you know who you are) K.W. M.S., S.R., and C.K., and that isn't even the tip of the ice berg! Nope, the main goal now is to shut them down, they have destroyed it, now it's time to scuttle it. It is no longer fit for service!

However there is stil a glimmer of hope if the brithers do things the right way, but I do not think that they are smart enough to do any thing the right way.
 
Hopefully the layoffs won't last to long and everyone who wants a job can go back to one.

Hopefully every Teamster who stood for himself will have a job, I hope every replacement gets laid off, and I am pretty sure they are not eligible for unemployment, remember that little tidbit on the job offers? I hope they go home, go bankrupt, and I hope they learn that taking a striking neighbors job is the ultimate betrayal, and that they realize that society has as little respect for their actions as we do!
 
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