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fedex has become a no caring company to work for people first please profit first. we must stand up for what is right and how they handled stl 4 roaddrivers being FORCED to the bottom of the city board was wrong
 
No offence sir but if I was faced with the possibility of a layoff and have to be out on the street looking for a job under these economic conditions, I'd take the city board. It would be a pay cut but I'd learn to live with it. Hamburgers I flip always get burned.
 
maybe if Mr reed and Mr dugan weren't trying to put as much freight as possible on purchase traliers, these men wouldn't be in this position! At this point and time were in I would think fedex would be more concerned with keeping their own employees working!!!!But all their worried about is maximizing profits. I can understand when their covering overflow or mty miles but at this time? welcome to the world of fedex!! Taking care of your people!
 
We need to all come together before fed ex to allow your company senority to allow you to keep your job in case of layoff.In case of layoff those employees from least time with company,should be first to go not senior employees. 7 8 9 and 10 year veterans should not lose thier job to 6 month employees etc.Profit first not people first!
 
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maybe if Mr reed and Mr dugan weren't trying to put as much freight as possible on purchase traliers, these men wouldn't be in this position! At this point and time were in I would think fedex would be more concerned with keeping their own employees working!!!!But all their worried about is maximizing profits. I can understand when their covering overflow or mty miles but at this time? welcome to the world of fedex!! Taking care of your people!
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PT will always be around in good times and bad times. 99% of the time the purchase are in place to keep from having overflow runs in a lane and keep down the excessive empty miles they would have in the lanes going back. Think of it this way had there been no purchase trailers we would need 4 drivers instead of 2, Now those 4 drivers run everyday somewhere around 560 miles at lets just say .55 a mile so one way would be 280 miles so thats 4 drivers 8 loaded pups going to a meet point to meet 4 drivers with 4 loaded pups and 4 emptys becuase their is an imblance in the freight lane.(it doesnt pay to haul AIR):duh:

to make this easy lets say its 280 to the meet point to a T.

560x8=4480miles in a day x 5 days a week =22400 miles a week x .55=$12,320 in milage pay alone just for one week.

Oh but lets not forget half of those miles are empty so lets see what happens when we take that out.

22,400/2=11,200 mty miles per week x $.55 a mile = $6,160 that money right there is money we would just roll up and smoke everyday if the PT werent used. Not to mention had they had these run in effect at this point and time those bids would more then likely have been cut and two road drivers laid off, but the purchase trailer where being used so this didnt have to happen. (before you all start in with it, I would like to say that I am not a fan of what is going on here either with the paycuts, lack of freight, layoffs, and staffing adjustments) however its things like this that will keep those of us that are working a paycheck every week. Now in know way is FX prefect and of course its easy to play monday morning QB for those of you saying well i see money wasted everyday, yes thats true its going to happen but if you stand by and let it get wasted your just as guilty as the ones wasting it. Ben Franklin always said " a penny earned is a penny saved" well in this econimic storm we are all trying to get thourgh right now the only trucking corps that will make it out alive are the ones who in the end have managed to save the most pennies.
 
I'm sorry guys but "PEOPLE FIRST" is dead the company has tossed us under the bus.

(Disclaimer)
In no way does this statement have anything to do with my people that I work with
since we have the best management team this company has ever seen in my barn.
We are trying to hold it tougher day by day and supporting each other through these
tuff times. I'm not joking here and will not put up with any wise cracks.
 
nice try FL4823 !
Your story sounds just like the one our quality driven managment team gives us. While this might have been true in the AF years its not the case now! Just have one of your red shirts, whos not happy about their pay cut show you on the computer at work. Its sad to see how they will run a pt both ways instead of their own!! Or run a pt from a hub 220 miles to a end of the line center,while sitting night time linehaul drivers.. Now I know this is not the case all the time, but when you have your own guys sitting I think they can do better than that!
 
nunnpuncher said:
fedex has become a no caring company to work for people first please profit first. we must stand up for what is right and how they handled stl 4 roaddrivers being FORCED to the bottom of the city board was wrong
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YOUR RIGHT BUT AT LEAST THEY STILL HAVE A JOB. IN NAS ONLY PT. WAS OFFERED NO BOTTOM OF CITY BOARD AND NO BENIES::ranting2:
 
FL4823 said:
..Think of it this way had there been no purchase trailers we would need 4 drivers instead of 2, Now those 4 drivers run everyday somewhere around 560 miles at lets just say .55 a mile so one way would be 280 miles so thats 4 drivers 8 loaded pups going to a meet point to meet 4 drivers with 4 loaded pups and 4 emptys becuase their is an imblance in the freight lane...(it doesnt pay to haul AIR)
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Your calculations are correct and do maximize profits. While squeezing every drop of profit out of the lane, the next logical step would be to hire part time drivers to run these or any lane for, let's say $15/hr.

Now, using your analogy, we can pay .55/mile for an 550 mile meet/turn or > $300 plus drop/hook pay+ benefits OR we can pay $15/hr or around $150... No insurance cost etc. You're welcome to do the math to figure the cost savings.

Again, using your analogy, it's fine with you and we should just understand that it's all about maximum profits, even though they'll loose some reliability, and integrity. So when these trailers don't make it on time and service suffers, will you be here defending the company's decision based on profitability, regardless of the ethics involved?

Where does the search for maximum profits end?
 
nunnpuncher said:
fedex has become a no caring company to work for people first please profit first. we must stand up for what is right and how they handled stl 4 roaddrivers being FORCED to the bottom of the city board was wrong
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City drivers are forced to the bottom of the road board when they switch to the road, why should road not be forced to the bottom of the city?
One board = solve the problem, selective seniority will always bite people in the butt.
 
Well, honestly I can see both sides on this. I can see where a road driver would consider himself "screwed" by having to go to the bottom of the city board.

On the other hand, I think the company thinks it is doing him a favor, which it may very well be if it is either "bottom of the city board" or "unemployment".

:popcorn:
 
FedXWife said:
We need to all come together before fed ex to allow your company senority to allow you to keep your job in case of layoff.In case of layoff those employees from least time with company,should be first to go not senior employees. 7 8 9 and 10 year veterans should not lose thier job to 6 month employees etc.Profit first not people first!
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Welcome to the boards. :smilie_132:


FM
 
SwampRatt said:
Your calculations are correct and do maximize profits. While squeezing every drop of profit out of the lane, the next logical step would be to hire part time drivers to run these or any lane for, let's say $15/hr.

Now, using your analogy, we can pay .55/mile for an 550 mile meet/turn or > $300 plus drop/hook pay+ benefits OR we can pay $15/hr or around $150... No insurance cost etc. You're welcome to do the math to figure the cost savings.

Again, using your analogy, it's fine with you and we should just understand that it's all about maximum profits, even though they'll loose some reliability, and integrity. So when these trailers don't make it on time and service suffers, will you be here defending the company's decision based on profitability, regardless of the ethics involved?

Where does the search for maximum profits end?
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Then we could get rid of half the management and that would save tons of money, just hire a couple bosses off the old chain gang to ride shot gun over em to keep em in line.

FM:clap:
 
maybe if they had a seniority hire date for truck drivers this would not happen. but lets take care of the people. lay senior people off first they helped make this company hahahahahahah
 
magicman said:
On the other hand, I think the company thinks it is doing him a favor, which it may very well be if it is either "bottom of the city board" or "unemployment".

:popcorn:
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I think it's the same either way. Where is the bottom of the city board nowadays? Most of them are riding the couch. I'd rather be starving and retain my job class seniority than lose the seniority and starve.
 
Shame on you

At the risk of being deleted or permanently banned. It appears that this forum is being administered by the politically challenged. In fact, it must be an indentity crisis of sorts. Judging by the slanted in-your-face political banner such as Obama/Osama, it would seem safe to assume that they are Republican supporters. Then you read the liberal, thumb-sucking cry of seniority and about being thrown under the bus...in the same post. That's funny. Last time I checked, the Republican party was uninterested in employee satisfaction and more interested in capitalism. I don't get it??? Are you confused?

And on top of that, the forum rules are clear about DEFAMATORY/INACCURATE/HATEFUL posting. I don't really know how these strong political innuendos attached to all of your posts could be anything other than that. I, for one, joined this forum to hear what's happening around the system of FXF, not to be indoctrinated by the Fox News watchers club.

Lets talk about FedEx Freight.
 
FL4823 said:
Now in know way is FX prefect and of course its easy to play monday morning QB for those of you saying well i see money wasted everyday, yes thats true its going to happen but if you stand by and let it get wasted your just as guilty as the ones wasting it.
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I don't have any power to stop the waste I see. It's in the "get it off the dock don't worry about routing" loads I see everyday. It's in the massive amount of paper we burn through and toss in the garbage everyday. It's in inefficient bids where a driver who knows the area most likely will not run that area.

Ben Franklin always said " a penny earned is a penny saved"
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Actaully, to be factual, it is "A penny saved is a penny earned".:smilie_132:


well in this econimic storm we are all trying to get thourgh right now the only trucking corps that will make it out alive are the ones who in the end have managed to save the most pennies.
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And to that end, they are stepping over dollars to save dimes. They are screwing the very people that do the physical part of the job. I bet they could get rid of most of these departments and their weighty baggage and save more than they do by not working drivers or making career dockworkers part time with no bennies.

But that would mean working for a company who thinks their employees are more than obstacles put in their way to make money.

And that is certainly NOT FedEx.
 
The whole point of the post was to show that without them more people would have gotton the boot, not just the cost savings

As for the way lay off were done, It should have done the way it was with one minor change. They should have done it by company senority within your job class. Meaning if a yard hard 14 road drivers and they need to let 2 do and road driver #11 and #12 both have 6 years with fedex but the bottom two road drivers have 10 years with fedex 6 years in the city but only 4 years on the on the road. numbers 11 and 12 should be put on lay off before the bottom two men with 10 years company time
 
FL4823 said:
The whole point of the post was to show that without them more people would have gotton the boot, not just the cost savings

As for the way lay off were done, It should have done the way it was with one minor change. They should have done it by company senority within your job class. Meaning if a yard hard 14 road drivers and they need to let 2 do and road driver #11 and #12 both have 6 years with fedex but the bottom two road drivers have 10 years with fedex 6 years in the city but only 4 years on the on the road. numbers 11 and 12 should be put on lay off before the bottom two men with 10 years company time
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and again why 1 barn board makes sense Conway doesn;t do a Lott of things right but that one they did
 
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