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ace26dan said:
I would like to know where the moron got his information to claim the ltl division drivers of Conway "are more qualified",based on what?
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Calling someone a "moron" in your first post, is probably a bit strong.

In any case, welcome to the boards Ace....
 
CFI bids on these loads just like CRST, England or who ever wants to pull these loads. If they are the best rate they haul the freight if not someone else will. Con-Way is CFI's largest customer it really on made good sense to buy them. If you look at all the major players in the LTL they all use sub-service. I hate it that it takes runs away from the LTL division. They still have large truckload customers they have to service so therefore they can only haul so many of the LTL loads.
 
if truckload is doing so well then take conways ltl away or better yet, let them do all the Pand D and all the dock work let them put in 70 hours a week dont forget they also get the spring ride trucks no more air ride sleeper trucks,half *** heaters,a/c and no there dogs and spouses cant go either,lets not forget no smoking in the trucks,and when there late barring a breakdown sign here truckdriver 3 and your gone hmmm really now get out on the dock and go to work what well im kinda tired,hey were did our truckload dock help go look in the breakroom,or in there truck i think i seen one walking there dog what no dogs allowed,well thats what we got to replace our LTL drivers with so we have make due we better get on a lift ourself will never get done im outa here wait for me.
 
Let's say they fired all the T/L drivers and said ok we are going to let the LTL drivers run these trucks and do the longhaul customers as well as the Con-Way Ltl loads. You will stay out 2 to 3 weeks and then come home. The only thing you could hope for was that your were far enough up the service rank board to stay in the LTL. We would have drivers quitting left and right. We run in the LTL business because most of us at one time or another run over the road and I for one enjoy being able to sleep in my own bed every night. "WE ALL HAVE A JOB TO DO" Can't we all just do our own job and make this the best company it can be? Just a thoght but driver's we are not the only LTL co. using sub-service. Everyone is using some sort of sub-service, and at least everytime we use CFI/ Con-Way it is going in the corporation we all work for.
 
Check Less said:
CFI bids on these loads just like CRST, England or who ever wants to pull these loads. If they are the best rate they haul the freight if not someone else will. Con-Way is CFI's largest customer it really on made good sense to buy them. If you look at all the major players in the LTL they all use sub-service. I hate it that it takes runs away from the LTL division. They still have large truckload customers they have to service so therefore they can only haul so many of the LTL loads.
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Here's a question;
Prior to our purchase of CFI, where you thinking about how we should buy a large T/L carrier? "Yes, this is something we need". Am sure you took into consideration Conway's failed history with T/L and that we had an operating T/L company at the time.

Is it a good it a good idea now because our leaders tell us it's a good idea? - Even though they did not reveal their intentions for CFI's use in our LTL ops?........Oh, they must not have NOT known.
 
At the time we opened our own T/L division I was saying if we were going to do this we should buy someone that knows how to operate a T/L div. It was obvious that Con-Way had failed in the past trying to do this. So I think it made good sense to buy one of the best in the business.
 
longtimeltl said:
:hide: They are taking away good paying LTL linehaul jobs. Conway is basically cutting the throats of their dedicated and hard working L/H drivers. This reminds me of the food companys that outsourced manufacturing to Chinese companys, only to have their good name tarnished due to lack of quality control.
The old saying " you get what you pay for " still holds true.:smilie_132:
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That's it exactly! We are robbing Peter to keep Paul afloat.
 
By now , the correct answer to this threads question would be YES .

Since WE have PROVEN .

WE , WANT fewer L/H runs,fewer FAC runs,and LESS employee compensations .

WE , have FORCED CNW to yet again ,
have to enter into,and purchase a T/L
component and use even more purchase tansportation .

Just4Thought
 
Bankrupt said:
Here's a question;
Prior to our purchase of CFI, where you thinking about how we should buy a large T/L carrier? "Yes, this is something we need". Am sure you took into consideration Conway's failed history with T/L and that we had an operating T/L company at the time.

Is it a good it a good idea now because our leaders tell us it's a good idea? - Even though they did not reveal their intentions for CFI's use in our LTL ops?........Oh, they must not have NOT known.
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Anyone who has been it this business for a while should of known this was going to happen,the first thing i said was we ltl drivers will be running runs 200 miles round trip or less,and it will be a dock job,boy do i wish i was wrong,but y pay us 55.5cpm whenu can get cfi at 38cpm or better yet a outside carrier for 90cpm with no fuel or health and welfare,and i think i saw on the company web sight they are hiring O\O for 85cpm....The writing is on the wall we will be dockmen.
 
This company was not started on what we did yesterday. It was started on what was NEEDED tomorrow. That forward thinking of 1980 got us to today with a very profitable company. Now what is NEEDED in forward thinking to get us to the next 20 year benchmark and the hopes of profitability? Being we are in the freight business, not the LTL business anymore, how do you profit from this industry? By having a company that is 100% capable of handling a customer's product from the shipper's dock to the consignee's dock. So that's logistics, warehousing, fulfillment, container, truckload, and LTL all with an international reach.

Conspiracism is like an airborne infectious disease... just try not to inhale around others infected
 
Merdock said:
This company was not started on what we did yesterday. It was started on what was NEEDED tomorrow. That forward thinking of 1980 got us to today with a very profitable company. Now what is NEEDED in forward thinking to get us to the next 20 year benchmark and the hopes of profitability? Being we are in the freight business, not the LTL business anymore, how do you profit from this industry? By having a company that is 100% capable of handling a customer's product from the shipper's dock to the consignee's dock. So that's logistics, warehousing, fulfillment, container, truckload, and LTL all with an international reach.

Conspiracism is like an airborne infectious disease... just try not to inhale around others infected
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In my neck of the woods (before Con-Way) one may see the occassional CFI rig...perhaps two or three a day...

Since the purchase they are all over the friggin' place...I can name no less than four of our largest LTL shippers where we pull pups (in the plural...to the tune of two or more sets per day)...we are pulling no less pups and perhaps more since truckload showed up...the JBs, Knights, and Orange have/are being replaced by truckload in a major way.

I wonder if we are getting more freight from these shippers because of a total solutions type package or if truckload got in because of the excellent service provided by the LTL side or both...

Since the red/blue and white/CFI/Con-Way Truckload folks showed up we have been garnering more LTL freight from these customers...

Anyone else noticing this???

The rodent has spoken!!!.....:biglaugh:
 
trucker916 said:
if truckload is doing so well then take conways ltl away or better yet, let them do all the Pand D and all the dock work let them put in 70 hours a week dont forget they also get the spring ride trucks no more air ride sleeper trucks,half *** heaters,a/c and no there dogs and spouses cant go either,lets not forget no smoking in the trucks,and when there late barring a breakdown sign here truckdriver 3 and your gone hmmm really now get out on the dock and go to work what well im kinda tired,hey were did our truckload dock help go look in the breakroom,or in there truck i think i seen one walking there dog what no dogs allowed,well thats what we got to replace our LTL drivers with so we have make due we better get on a lift ourself will never get done im outa here wait for me.
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damn man stop and take a breath,,,,,,,
 
well the cfi group has turned 1 million dollars profit so they didn`t take apay cut . our management couldn`t operate a t/l company sososososo they bought one to your and my detrantence! but the are getting their double and triple endorences. surprise!
 
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