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Moving a trailer in the yard I made an extreme left turn, red air line stretched to the max, then bam, it came loose and blasted thru back window of truck cab and hit me in the jaw.

Safety charged me with a preventable accident.

My question: Is the safety man's pay connected in any way to how many preventable or non-preventable accidents happen? In other words, if his good work reduces non-preventable accidents, does he recieve more money. If so, it would stand to reason that he would declare accidents that are on the bubble ( on the line or a wobbler) as preventable and he would make more money. This could be a conflict of interest?
 
:TR10driving03:I dont see how his good work would prevent a non-preventable accident but keep in mind where his paycheck is coming from, and the economy! I was told "off the record " if you get hurt its your fault!!!!
 
Safety directors do not work on quotas so there is no conflict of interest conspiracy theory working here. Maybe you should blame the glass manufacturer for not making the back window stronger.
 
all accidents are ruled preventable, reason being, you could have called off work that day & it would have never happened.:nutkick:


b.t.w. "preventable accident" is an oxymoron.
 
Maybe blame the company for not providing better equipment, longer hoses, better and yes more expensive gladhands,maybe a guard for the window all or any of these things are the FAULT OF THE COMPANY and could have prevented this accident BUT to make things easier and to keep the liability issue on the down low! blame the driver
 
First are you ok. you said you were hit in the jaw.
Did you seek medical.
Did you fill out an acc report.
all accidents are ruled preventable.
i would have to ck with your shop to see if the glad hands were worn out and find out when the tractor & Trailer was service last keep all the info so you can fight this one.
 
did you damage the tractor in any way when you turned? if not then that had to be a faulty glad hand to fly off like that
 
iamgs3 said:
Moving a trailer in the yard I made an extreme left turn, red air line stretched to the max, then bam, it came loose and blasted thru back window of truck cab and hit me in the jaw.

Safety charged me with a preventable accident.

My question: Is the safety man's pay connected in any way to how many preventable or non-preventable accidents happen? In other words, if his good work reduces non-preventable accidents, does he recieve more money. If so, it would stand to reason that he would declare accidents that are on the bubble ( on the line or a wobbler) as preventable and he would make more money. This could be a conflict of interest?
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You would be the first to have it ruled non-preventable if they had ruled that way...I have seen it at least a half dozen times and everyone of them was preventable, and about half the time, the driver got hurt...usually in the back of the head...and every driver has always said to me "my fault"...
For the record, the Region Safety manager looks worse with each preventable accident in his region during the year, not the other way around..If he had his way, nothing would be ruled preventable, and he would look like a star...Too many, or not reaching his goal is usually interpreted as "He is not doing enough training within his region to lower the number"..The ruling is based on one simple question: "Could the driver have done something different to prevent this from happening?" If not, non-preventable.
 
I had that happen to me my first year at conway the company will never admit fault do to the risk of being sued so every accident is preventable even if they are at fault what are you so worried about? its only one point for the window
 
Boxboss if the company could prevent it, is it preventible? as you say it happens alot they know it happens should they not hold some responsibilty, the plastic lines are too short, they are not flexible when cold, why does the buck stop at the driver? The bottom line the company should prevent this from happening again but they wont!
 
Did you bring this up with your Safety Committee?
When accidents happen, whether preventable or non-preventable we should discuss them as a group so we can keep this from happening to the next person.
 
This may be a battle not worth fighting. If you show that the gladhands were worn, then they will say you should have checked that before moving the trailer. If the hoses are too short or contract in cold weather, they will say you shouldn't have turned so tightly because you should have known what could happen. I think you see where this is going. Hopefully, you filled out a "statement of injury" or whatever it's called and got your medical bill taken care of on a worker's comp claim.
 
GOTTAGO said:
Boxboss if the company could prevent it, is it preventible? as you say it happens alot they know it happens should they not hold some responsibilty, the plastic lines are too short, they are not flexible when cold, why does the buck stop at the driver? The bottom line the company should prevent this from happening again but they wont!
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I think you make a good point in the case of THIS accident...There should be an investigation into the factors you mentioned, if not to overturn this ruling, certainly to prevent future similar incidents..

One post note on my earlier comments: The individuals I mentioned were all involved in straight pulls from the trailer, and simply forgot to disconnect the hose...none were the result of tight turning..
 
frthound said:
Safety directors do not work on quotas so there is no conflict of interest conspiracy theory working here. Maybe you should blame the glass manufacturer for not making the back window stronger.
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Reread his post he was not blaming anyone...Just asking a question. Talk about blowing things out of proportion.
 
iamgs3 said:
Moving a trailer in the yard I made an extreme left turn, red air line stretched to the max, then bam, it came loose and blasted thru back window of truck cab and hit me in the jaw.

Safety charged me with a preventable accident.

My question: Is the safety man's pay connected in any way to how many preventable or non-preventable accidents happen? In other words, if his good work reduces non-preventable accidents, does he recieve more money. If so, it would stand to reason that he would declare accidents that are on the bubble ( on the line or a wobbler) as preventable and he would make more money. This could be a conflict of interest?
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L/H driver from another terminal had a glad hand bust his back glass last year and never recieved a write up. Depending on the radius of your turn i would think you would hit the tractor with the trailer before the glad hand broke off.
 
Appeal it tell how it happened. It should of not come off but the airlines are on one side of trailer not in the middle of trailer. They are not long enough. O r flexable enough specialy if they are new airlines.
 
this is a subject that needs to be addressed;our air lines are at least 1 foot too short or we need something changed cause in the winter Ive had air lines pull off at least if not more 1 to 2 times a week and dont blame it on the coupling we need better lines coming off the tractor. Ive worked for other carriers and never had that issue its something we need to change.
 
jonb said:
this is a subject that needs to be addressed;our air lines are at least 1 foot too short or we need something changed cause in the winter Ive had air lines pull off at least if not more 1 to 2 times a week and dont blame it on the coupling we need better lines coming off the tractor. Ive worked for other carriers and never had that issue its something we need to change.
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I agree, there have been several times during the winter where I have had to tie the gladhands in place with a bungee cord, to keep them conected. Nothing quite as disconcerting as driving down a straight road and having your trailer brakes just lock-up, when the red line pops off the gladhand. Just about ::shit:: my pants the first time this happened to me doing 62 down the interstate.

Luckily, I was pulling a single box, hate to think what would have happened if it would have been a set.
 
Hookset said:
First are you ok. you said you were hit in the jaw.
Did you seek medical.
Did you fill out an acc report.
all accidents are ruled preventable.
i would have to ck with your shop to see if the glad hands were worn out and find out when the tractor & Trailer was service last keep all the info so you can fight this one.
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If they were worn they will get him for improper pre-trip also,we had a driver at my barn slip and fall on ice that formed at the bottom of a company down spout that was at the steps to get in the building and it was ruled preventable,his fault, they told him and i swear this is true, that he should of had spikes on his work boots...:biglaugh::biglaugh::nutkick:
 
trucker1962 said:
If they were worn they will get him for improper pre-trip also,we had a driver at my barn slip and fall on ice that formed at the bottom of a company down spout that was at the steps to get in the building and it was ruled preventable,his fault, they told him and i swear this is true, that he should of had spikes on his work boots...:biglaugh::biglaugh::nutkick:
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I believe that ruling 100%. They have to stay consistent with the definition of "Preventable" accidents and injuries.
We all know accidents and injuries can occur anywhere.
We all need to be aware of our surroundings and not let our guard down.
 
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