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I just wanted to post this. These are my thoughts. You can agree and disagree as you wish.

1. As an employee of one of the largest delivery companies in the world. I believe that if we, as current union members follow certain practices that YRC and other union terminals have followed over the past many many years. Who is to say that in 5-10-15 or whatever amount of years. We do not follow the same suit as YRC!

2. How much is not enough? We all want to bring home the bacon!!! But if we have XXX amount of employees saying I want 28$hr. What kind of financial stranglehold will that put on UPS? I want make money just like the next guy and reap the rewards of great benefits. But if your job was in jeopardy like the folks over at YRC. Would say 20$ or 22$ hr be enough for you to pay the bills? And keep the company focused for another 10 years?

What I am getting at is this. YRC and the formers have been wanting more and more. Which as inflation goes up I believe there needs to be pay increases and such. But the way times are, how much is enough so WE don't put ourselves out of jobs due to economic turmoil! or non turmoil depending on which side of the fence your on.

We would all like to get paid 71$hr like GM. But if your job came down to it would you be willing to be paid like a Toyota employee. They only make 47$hr!

Now granted, 28$hr is nothing, but I am using it as a general figure. Are you willing to put UPS in a position where they cannot afford to pay there employees any more?

All I am getting at is this. We need to watch what these other companies are doing and make sure we don't go down the same path as them. These guys are getting beat up and down!!! Dispatch, without a doubt is the most horribly run. However, WE as drivers need to make sure that as stupid as they are. We don't put UPS into the same situation.

The younger drivers such as myself believe that you need to take them for everything they got, but not to the point where we are ripping them off. That is the reason why YRC is in the situation they are in. Drivers wanted to get paid 28$hr, but if if your job came down to 28 or 24 would you be willing to compromise? We also get a pension, which is way better than a 401K. How many companies offer a pension today? If they don't, why not? Because its expensive thats why!

We currently pay for our benes. I would love to not pay for benes like the parcel guys. Which In our next contract I think we should go for. But, if it comes down to UPS cutting costs dramatically, such as drivers and office staff and sacrificing customer service to keep us happy. Is it really worth it in the long run.

Now let me explain why I wrote this. I have played both sides of the field. I was a district manager for a company for many years before I started driving truck. I got out because I did not want to deal with the corporate BS any more. I have seen P and L's (profit and loss) for those who don't know what it is. When it came down to cutting costs we first looked at our vendors. Then we looked at things like lights and such. then we looked at employees. Employees are what makes a company succesful. However, if you don't have enough employees then you are getting out of the mix of what makes a company succesful to begin with. Customer service!. That is what makes UPS succesful. Customer service, which is what we do every day. Pick up a shippers order on time and delivering it on time, without damaging it!!!

All I am sayin is, just remember our greed and fortune at the time could be our mis-fortune down the road. Remember how fortunate we have it now. As stupid and dumb as our dispatchers are and we want to punch them in the face! Don't put a company in jeopardy for something you may not have in another 10-15-20 years such as YRC.

Just a 2c post.

Have a safe and happy and partysome memorial day, Oh and go Yankees!!!!! Lets hope they kick Phillies butt!!!!!

Peace out!

PS. which I am sure someone on this board is thinking, I am not in any way affiliated with UPS management!! I had to write it. Believe it or not!
 
ibamars said:
I just wanted to post this. These are my thoughts. You can agree and disagree as you wish.
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Thank you for taking the time to voice your thoughts. Nothing wrong with it.
I do believe UPS knows how to hard bargain.
I feel we will never get to the point that YRC has put themselves into.
For starters, UPS had the foresight to bail themselves out of a multi employer pension.
 
the yrc president loves to hear that talk when he is getting his multi million dollar bonus....davis of ups loves that kind of talk when he is cashing his multi million dollar check all made on your back with an attitude like that driver you will be working for12.00 an hour and no benefits...you said the key word you are young.....many of us who have been driving for 40 years or more have heard this same crap....gm and every other company including yellow is where it is because of management and not anything you or the union did.....if you and your family don't get it those greedy bastards will.
 
THe management put yrc in the trouble that it is in, not the pay that the workers get. The union and the company agree on the contract together.
 
ibamars said:
I just wanted to post this. These are my thoughts. You can agree and disagree as you wish.

1. As an employee of one of the largest delivery companies in the world. I believe that if we, as current union members follow certain practices that YRC and other union terminals have followed over the past many many years. Who is to say that in 5-10-15 or whatever amount of years. We do not follow the same suit as YRC!

2. How much is not enough? We all want to bring home the bacon!!! But if we have XXX amount of employees saying I want 28$hr. What kind of financial stranglehold will that put on UPS? I want make money just like the next guy and reap the rewards of great benefits. But if your job was in jeopardy like the folks over at YRC. Would say 20$ or 22$ hr be enough for you to pay the bills? And keep the company focused for another 10 years?

What I am getting at is this. YRC and the formers have been wanting more and more. Which as inflation goes up I believe there needs to be pay increases and such. But the way times are, how much is enough so WE don't put ourselves out of jobs due to economic turmoil! or non turmoil depending on which side of the fence your on.

We would all like to get paid 71$hr like GM. But if your job came down to it would you be willing to be paid like a Toyota employee. They only make 47$hr!

Now granted, 28$hr is nothing, but I am using it as a general figure. Are you willing to put UPS in a position where they cannot afford to pay there employees any more?

All I am getting at is this. We need to watch what these other companies are doing and make sure we don't go down the same path as them. These guys are getting beat up and down!!! Dispatch, without a doubt is the most horribly run. However, WE as drivers need to make sure that as stupid as they are. We don't put UPS into the same situation.

The younger drivers such as myself believe that you need to take them for everything they got, but not to the point where we are ripping them off. That is the reason why YRC is in the situation they are in. Drivers wanted to get paid 28$hr, but if if your job came down to 28 or 24 would you be willing to compromise? We also get a pension, which is way better than a 401K. How many companies offer a pension today? If they don't, why not? Because its expensive thats why!

We currently pay for our benes. I would love to not pay for benes like the parcel guys. Which In our next contract I think we should go for. But, if it comes down to UPS cutting costs dramatically, such as drivers and office staff and sacrificing customer service to keep us happy. Is it really worth it in the long run.

Now let me explain why I wrote this. I have played both sides of the field. I was a district manager for a company for many years before I started driving truck. I got out because I did not want to deal with the corporate BS any more. I have seen P and L's (profit and loss) for those who don't know what it is. When it came down to cutting costs we first looked at our vendors. Then we looked at things like lights and such. then we looked at employees. Employees are what makes a company succesful. However, if you don't have enough employees then you are getting out of the mix of what makes a company succesful to begin with. Customer service!. That is what makes UPS succesful. Customer service, which is what we do every day. Pick up a shippers order on time and delivering it on time, without damaging it!!!

All I am sayin is, just remember our greed and fortune at the time could be our mis-fortune down the road. Remember how fortunate we have it now. As stupid and dumb as our dispatchers are and we want to punch them in the face! Don't put a company in jeopardy for something you may not have in another 10-15-20 years such as YRC.

Just a 2c post.

Have a safe and happy and partysome memorial day, Oh and go Yankees!!!!! Lets hope they kick Phillies butt!!!!!

Peace out!

PS. which I am sure someone on this board is thinking, I am not in any way affiliated with UPS management!! I had to write it. Believe it or not!
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First thing is that the uaw does not pay there worker $71.00 per hour. The starting wage for a uaw worker is $14 and change. There may be some 20 year or 30 year vet who makes a great deal more but they are bought out(early retirement) and retiring by the hundreds.

Your point, on these issues of UPS and YRC are basically pointless. YRC workers before they took there pay cut made about $22+change per hour. YRC is in trouble because they aquired too many companys with to much debt. The union gave back money and has allowed the company to suspend pension payments to help it survive.
ABF is under the same contract as YRC and they are doing well, why? because they didn't go out and buy up a bunch of companys with bad debt.
UPS pays what they can afford to pay, not a penny less not a penny more. UPS made $3.5 billion dollars in profits in 2008. They are not going to suffer they same fate as YRC because they are the best run corperation in the trucking industy. UPS Freight is not even a distant third cousin of UPS, the only thing we have in common with UPS is that we have there symbol on our uniforms and about 15% of our trucks. If we remain the (ovnt shadow company) then we will never be UPS. I go to there facilities and they are clean and sharp. There equipment is clean and they follow the rules that the company requires.
UPS being YRC because we are a union company? NEVER! UPS Freight being the ugly step child of the UPS corp. yes, that we will be until UPS installs the discipline of the real UPS.

P.S. We have guys who have beards who where hired after May 2006, we have guys who don't wear the uniform properly, show up to work late everyday and crash vehicles and the mangement does nothing. That sh!t would never be tolerated at UPS, but we are not UPS we are the ugly embarassment of the UPS corp.:TR10driving03: It is the strick rules that make UPS great and there employees the best paid in the industry.
 
Steward2008 said:
First thing is that the uaw does not pay there worker $71.00 per hour. The starting wage for a uaw worker is $14 and change. There may be some 20 year or 30 year vet who makes a great deal more but they are bought out(early retirement) and retiring by the hundreds.

Your point, on these issues of UPS and YRC are basically pointless. YRC workers before they took there pay cut made about $22+change per hour. YRC is in trouble because they aquired too many companys with to much debt. The union gave back money and has allowed the company to suspend pension payments to help it survive.
ABF is under the same contract as YRC and they are doing well, why? because they didn't go out and buy up a bunch of companys with bad debt.
UPS pays what they can afford to pay, not a penny less not a penny more. UPS made $3.5 billion dollars in profits in 2008. They are not going to suffer they same fate as YRC because they are the best run corperation in the trucking industy. UPS Freight is not even a distant third cousin of UPS, the only thing we have in common with UPS is that we have there symbol on our uniforms and about 15% of our trucks. If we remain the (ovnt shadow company) then we will never be UPS. I go to there facilities and they are clean and sharp. There equipment is clean and they follow the rules that the company requires.
UPS being YRC because we are a union company? NEVER! UPS Freight being the ugly step child of the UPS corp. yes, that we will be until UPS installs the discipline of the real UPS.

P.S. We have guys who have beards who where hired after May 2006, we have guys who don't wear the uniform properly, show up to work late everyday and crash vehicles and the mangement does nothing. That sh!t would never be tolerated at UPS, but we are not UPS we are the ugly embarassment of the UPS corp.:TR10driving03: It is the strick rules that make UPS great and there employees the best paid in the industry.
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i liked what you had to say till you got to the part of calling ups freight an embarassment, as far as most of the ups freight drivers i see and where i work,they have respect for the ups name, there have been a lot of new tractors and most of the tractors i see running road have been painted the ups colors, there's still a lot of overnite and motor cargo trailers, i'm sure they wan't to get as much as they can out of them in this economy, smart move, i agree about the terminals they need to be a lot cleaner, i have read a lot what our drivers say on truckers board, and i think it's time we should stop calling our company names like dirty brown or the ugly step child, and stop complaining about our contract because it's getting better, every one knew there there would be problems the first year till things got worked out,
i'm sure in the next couple of years it will be a lot better
 
dontno said:
i liked what you had to say till you got to the part of calling ups freight an embarassment, as far as most of the ups freight drivers i see and where i work,they have respect for the ups name, there have been a lot of new tractors and most of the tractors i see running road have been painted the ups colors, there's still a lot of overnite and motor cargo trailers, i'm sure they wan't to get as much as they can out of them in this economy, smart move, i agree about the terminals they need to be a lot cleaner, i have read a lot what our drivers say on truckers board, and i think it's time we should stop calling our company names like dirty brown or the ugly step child, and stop complaining about our contract because it's getting better, every one knew there there would be problems the first year till things got worked out,
i'm sure in the next couple of years it will be a lot better
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The fact remains we are an embarassment to the UPS brand.
 
Steward2008 said:
The fact remains we are an embarassment to the UPS brand.
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I do not understand how we are an embarassment to UPS? Before UPS brought us out we had the best pay, benefits of any LTL company, now the equipment was not that great. Just because some of our guys have had accidents, we are allowed to have facial hair, and our uniforms has grease marks on them (some) does not mean we are an embarassment. You need to understand that the package side does not unload 4600 pounds of picnic tables, hook/unhook trailers, and load trailers before they go out to make their deliveries. We were a good company before UPS brought us and we are still the best company in the LTL industry,:smilie_132: even if you do not think so.
 
GetPaid said:
I do not understand how we are an embarassment to UPS? Before UPS brought us out we had the best pay, benefits of any LTL company, now the equipment was not that great. Just because some of our guys have had accidents, we are allowed to have facial hair, and our uniforms has grease marks on them (some) does not mean we are an embarassment. You need to understand that the package side does not unload 4600 pounds of picnic tables, hook/unhook trailers, and load trailers before they go out to make their deliveries. We were a good company before UPS brought us and we are still the best company in the LTL industry,:smilie_132: even if you do not think so.
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:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
We are not even close to UPS standards.
 
UPS will never be in the same shape as yrc,it has people in place that know how business works and will not settle for anything less!
As far as the big O,we would not be here today had UPS not purchased us....the production numbers before we were purchased were inflated to make us look like a profitable company....for accusition reasons...If you went back starting about 18 months before the purchase and looked at insider trading you will see that Leo Suggs took every stock option he could get his hands on...low and behold his vision made him a very rich man.....do you think he knew something??
As far as a embasasement to UPS, You bet we are,look at their equipment,washed and wiped down every day (even in bad weather),I have a 2006 Tractor that has not been washed in two years,the first week it was in service a city driver broke off the air shield,400.000 miles later it still has not been repaired..
My Terminal looks like a dump,with no maint standards in place.(the UPS Package facilities I have been are spotless)
Wages...Have you seen what the package drivers will be making at the end of their contract?.....it's like 57.00 per hr.
Yes People,We are the blue and grey stepchildren of UPS.
KarenK
 
KarenK said:
UPS will never be in the same shape as yrc,it has people in place that know how business works and will not settle for anything less!
As far as the big O,we would not be here today had UPS not purchased us....the production numbers before we were purchased were inflated to make us look like a profitable company....for accusition reasons...If you went back starting about 18 months before the purchase and looked at insider trading you will see that Leo Suggs took every stock option he could get his hands on...low and behold his vision made him a very rich man.....do you think he knew something??
As far as a embasasement to UPS, You bet we are,look at their equipment,washed and wiped down every day (even in bad weather),I have a 2006 Tractor that has not been washed in two years,the first week it was in service a city driver broke off the air shield,400.000 miles later it still has not been repaired..
My Terminal looks like a dump,with no maint standards in place.(the UPS Package facilities I have been are spotless)
Wages...Have you seen what the package drivers will be making at the end of their contract?.....it's like 57.00 per hr.
Yes People,We are the blue and grey stepchildren of UPS.
KarenK
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i think it's more like 32.OO at the end of there contract
 
KarenK said:
UPS will never be in the same shape as yrc,it has people in place that know how business works and will not settle for anything less!
As far as the big O,we would not be here today had UPS not purchased us....the production numbers before we were purchased were inflated to make us look like a profitable company....for accusition reasons...If you went back starting about 18 months before the purchase and looked at insider trading you will see that Leo Suggs took every stock option he could get his hands on...low and behold his vision made him a very rich man.....do you think he knew something??
As far as a embasasement to UPS, You bet we are,look at their equipment,washed and wiped down every day (even in bad weather),I have a 2006 Tractor that has not been washed in two years,the first week it was in service a city driver broke off the air shield,400.000 miles later it still has not been repaired..
My Terminal looks like a dump,with no maint standards in place.(the UPS Package facilities I have been are spotless)
Wages...Have you seen what the package drivers will be making at the end of their contract?.....it's like 57.00 per hr.
Yes People,We are the blue and grey stepchildren of UPS.
KarenK
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Our only hope is that we are merged into the UPS company in 2013. They need to close down as many terminals as possible and expand the size of the existing UPS terminals and share the properties.
 
just get the freight there damage free and on time and it will rain money on us.we need our upper leadership to really get on board with this.the saftey stuff is a great way to save money but i deliver more damage freight than i do falling down or not knowing how to walk just right. if we want great pay we need to to a great job. that means from the top down.is 28 bucks an hour to much to pay if we could be damage free,i think not.i hope we can get the tools and training we need to get this done.in the moring meetings i never here any talk about how to do a better job,about do not pick up bad looking freight,ask customer to use more shrink wrap or hey guys we just got some new straps and load bars make sure we use them.that to me is what will bring the big money.its there we just need to get to it.
 
gangster said:
just get the freight there damage free and on time and it will rain money on us.we need our upper leadership to really get on board with this.the saftey stuff is a great way to save money but i deliver more damage freight than i do falling down or not knowing how to walk just right. if we want great pay we need to to a great job. that means from the top down.is 28 bucks an hour to much to pay if we could be damage free,i think not.i hope we can get the tools and training we need to get this done.in the moring meetings i never here any talk about how to do a better job,about do not pick up bad looking freight,ask customer to use more shrink wrap or hey guys we just got some new straps and load bars make sure we use them.that to me is what will bring the big money.its there we just need to get to it.
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I couldn't agree with you more. We need to deliver the freight in the same condition we picked it up. We know how our outbound and hubs work so if it doesn't look like it will make it there in one piece DON'T pick it up. Our outbounds and hubs need massive retraining on how to load freight claim free. There are millions of dollars waisted on STUPIDITY!!!
 
The one thing I have seen is improvement in freight damages. We used to have a lot more than we have today. The real problem I see is that if a guy looks like a slob, and treats his truck like a slob and is to lazy to clean up after himself, then he is an embarassment to the UPS image. It's called self pride. I see it in my yard everyday. I am shocked when I have to use another truck when mine is down. Garbage piled all over the cab, the inside of the trucks, windows are so dirty you can't see through them when the sun shines on them and it is just f-ing gross. HAVE SOME PRIDE IN YOURSELF!:Off-Topic:
 
..taking pride or being taking advantage of is my question.While I`m in principle I tend to agree about looks...question I have should you be paid to wash that truck...and in all reality are you not taking work away from fleet services ? And as far as being an embarrassment thats hogwash,freight is freight and package is package,now I know of no perfectly run organization,package included,so yes there can be improvements we can all agree...but an embarrassment,surly not,I run with many buster brown guys and they have many the same issues as we..UP,UPS,now union,and this economy,and still delivering 97-99 percent on time..aint shabby...the embarrassment might be that UPS cant get the management they want in the time frame they wish which is entirely their fault..imhho...
 
ibamars said:
I just wanted to post this. These are my thoughts. You can agree and disagree as you wish.

1. As an employee of one of the largest delivery companies in the world. I believe that if we, as current union members follow certain practices that YRC and other union terminals have followed over the past many many years. Who is to say that in 5-10-15 or whatever amount of years. We do not follow the same suit as YRC!

2. How much is not enough? We all want to bring home the bacon!!! But if we have XXX amount of employees saying I want 28$hr. What kind of financial stranglehold will that put on UPS? I want make money just like the next guy and reap the rewards of great benefits. But if your job was in jeopardy like the folks over at YRC. Would say 20$ or 22$ hr be enough for you to pay the bills? And keep the company focused for another 10 years?

What I am getting at is this. YRC and the formers have been wanting more and more. Which as inflation goes up I believe there needs to be pay increases and such. But the way times are, how much is enough so WE don't put ourselves out of jobs due to economic turmoil! or non turmoil depending on which side of the fence your on.

We would all like to get paid 71$hr like GM. But if your job came down to it would you be willing to be paid like a Toyota employee. They only make 47$hr!

Now granted, 28$hr is nothing, but I am using it as a general figure. Are you willing to put UPS in a position where they cannot afford to pay there employees any more?

All I am getting at is this. We need to watch what these other companies are doing and make sure we don't go down the same path as them. These guys are getting beat up and down!!! Dispatch, without a doubt is the most horribly run. However, WE as drivers need to make sure that as stupid as they are. We don't put UPS into the same situation.

The younger drivers such as myself believe that you need to take them for everything they got, but not to the point where we are ripping them off. That is the reason why YRC is in the situation they are in. Drivers wanted to get paid 28$hr, but if if your job came down to 28 or 24 would you be willing to compromise? We also get a pension, which is way better than a 401K. How many companies offer a pension today? If they don't, why not? Because its expensive thats why!

We currently pay for our benes. I would love to not pay for benes like the parcel guys. Which In our next contract I think we should go for. But, if it comes down to UPS cutting costs dramatically, such as drivers and office staff and sacrificing customer service to keep us happy. Is it really worth it in the long run.

Now let me explain why I wrote this. I have played both sides of the field. I was a district manager for a company for many years before I started driving truck. I got out because I did not want to deal with the corporate BS any more. I have seen P and L's (profit and loss) for those who don't know what it is. When it came down to cutting costs we first looked at our vendors. Then we looked at things like lights and such. then we looked at employees. Employees are what makes a company succesful. However, if you don't have enough employees then you are getting out of the mix of what makes a company succesful to begin with. Customer service!. That is what makes UPS succesful. Customer service, which is what we do every day. Pick up a shippers order on time and delivering it on time, without damaging it!!!

All I am sayin is, just remember our greed and fortune at the time could be our mis-fortune down the road. Remember how fortunate we have it now. As stupid and dumb as our dispatchers are and we want to punch them in the face! Don't put a company in jeopardy for something you may not have in another 10-15-20 years such as YRC.

Just a 2c post.

Have a safe and happy and partysome memorial day, Oh and go Yankees!!!!! Lets hope they kick Phillies butt!!!!!

Peace out!

PS. which I am sure someone on this board is thinking, I am not in any way affiliated with UPS management!! I had to write it. Believe it or not!
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Allthough I agree with your post to an extent, when UPS goes to the bargaining table I think they as opposed to yellow had enough foresight to see wether they can afford to pay us or not.

Keep in mind UPS spends monies in a conservative fashion building an empire met by only a few, one of those few Fed Ex, and the other with unlimited cash flow DHL.

These companies did not get as big as they are by spending in a irressponsible fashion, a fashion met by YELLOW, I do not see UPS buying 3 times it's actual worth any time in the near future which is what yellow did. Just to be #1, and not have enough common sence to KNOW the economy is FLUID.

This is the reason and the only reason why Yellow is in the position they are in. Irresponsible spending practices.

Now is payroll part of those irresponsible spending practices? Sure it is, and then next time dollar bill gets his paycheck and starts walking ofF with it ( the most expensive CEO in the trucking industry) someone may want to inform him the company is in the tank first, and then tell him, his paycheck will probably keep 40 or so employees employed for the next ten years.!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
KarenK said:
UPS will never be in the same shape as yrc,it has people in place that know how business works and will not settle for anything less!
As far as the big O,we would not be here today had UPS not purchased us....the production numbers before we were purchased were inflated to make us look like a profitable company....for accusition reasons...If you went back starting about 18 months before the purchase and looked at insider trading you will see that Leo Suggs took every stock option he could get his hands on...low and behold his vision made him a very rich man.....do you think he knew something??
As far as a embasasement to UPS, You bet we are,look at their equipment,washed and wiped down every day (even in bad weather),I have a 2006 Tractor that has not been washed in two years,the first week it was in service a city driver broke off the air shield,400.000 miles later it still has not been repaired..
My Terminal looks like a dump,with no maint standards in place.(the UPS Package facilities I have been are spotless)
Wages...Have you seen what the package drivers will be making at the end of their contract?.....it's like 57.00 per hr.
Yes People,We are the blue and grey stepchildren of UPS.
KarenK
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Karen, I agree with your post except for what small package makes per hr. that is a bit inflated. Furthermore people should realize ( and this is a general statement, not directed to you personally Karen) . UPS,( and I am sure if you look at thier spending practices), you will see takes a long time to implement things fully company wide.

New policies = monies spent. bottom line. I am quite sure they have a think tank somewhere looking at way's to improve our facilities and equipment agendas as well anything else that may be in the mix, but these things cannot be implemented without cash flow.

I am sure future business will sustain these practices you people are so embaressed over now.
 
I used to care about how our tractors, trailers and facilities looked but I no longer care.
In my area we try to maintain what we have. We are slowly getting new equipment and I am noticing more and more UPS Freight branded trailers.
I don't waste my time and energy complaining over these things I can't control.
UPS knows we are mismatched and that some of our facilities are not the prettiest, they pulled the rebranding campaign for a reason.
To me, it is what it is right now. One day we will match.

Many other companies are mismatched. (Con-way, YRCW and a few others)
I'm still proud to work for a well managed company who has the foresight to look into the future, seize opportunities and continues to streamline the way we do business.
What matters to me now is the huge portfolio of services we offer to the customer, surviving through this weakened economy and getting our laid off brothers back.

As far as having our equipment washed. It has to do with the EPA and waste water runoff into non approved drains. I know there are huge fines.
We have one approved drain inside our shop. It's always conveniently blocked by equipment. I move it and wash my duct tape mobile once in a while.
 
Accelerator said:
Karen, I agree with your post except for what small package makes per hr. that is a bit inflated. Furthermore people should realize ( and this is a general statement, not directed to you personally Karen) . UPS,( and I am sure if you look at thier spending practices), you will see takes a long time to implement things fully company wide.

New policies = monies spent. bottom line. I am quite sure they have a think tank somewhere looking at way's to improve our facilities and equipment agendas as well anything else that may be in the mix, but these things cannot be implemented without cash flow.

I am sure future business will sustain these practices you people are so embaressed over now.
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I may be wrong,I think what I had read was with benifits it comes to like 50.00 something at the end of their contract.
Here is a clip from 2007 that states almost 30.00 per hr.,not sure what it is today.
No gains in Teamsters new UPS contract
Have A Great Day
KarenK
 
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