Yellow | YRC, Teamsters to Discuss Operations Changes

Spare me your sarcastic wit. I've been a teamster for 36 years. The last 23 in this paradise. Funny thing is I really don't recall ANYBODY dying on a picket line. Discretion is the better part of valor a lesson you evidently never learned.
they might not have in your time. Exactly my point, they all are forgotten with a stroke of a pen. One thing I have learned you haven't is the more you give them they still can't make a dime. There is nothing left to give. Take a look at your paycheck and read the last MOU that was gonna turn it all round, you'll see in black and white there is nothing left to give. I would hope after 36 years you would have some pride somewhere. This company is nothing short of a train wreck and will continue that way till the end.
 
Spare me your sarcastic wit. I've been a teamster for 36 years. The last 23 in this paradise. Funny thing is I really don't recall ANYBODY dying on a picket line. Discretion is the better part of valor a lesson you evidently never learned.
I've been a teamster for 32 years myself, and I haven't seen anybody dying. And I haven't seen very much fighting lately, either
 
I would like to clarify that the situation at YRC, as well as Holland and New Penn is a disgrace. However, as unpleasant as it is, as an adult one is expected to try and overcome this hardship. Do not damn the darkness, light a candle!
 
Before major changes occur.at great costs.I believe yrc needs to change the computer software they have been using.this software is almost 30years old.takes too much time to go through all the menus and such.not too mention not knowing exactly what you have in freight inventory.
Scheduling of switchers and dock personnel.that needs to improve.
I don't believe major changes need to be implemented.we have what we need.and improved economy would help.we have to work smarter not harder.
We haven't mastered what we have right now.I think some of these plans could be more harmful than helpful.we have to be more aggressive in sales.get these accounts and follow through with excellent service.
I also think that we run sleepers that are unnecessary.example is our 511 sleeper runs to elpaso texas.its already proven that running single over to that terminal is more effiecent.putting to bed two drivers instead of just one is a waste of resources and money.I was told our sleeper teams are put to bed in elpaso at least 70% of the time.does that make sense or money?how bout our Denver run from 511.I know that these teams go to denver and sit on the clock for 5hours or go to bed there.I've done it.does that make money or utilize our resources correctly?
All that I have mentioned above.is all examples of not operating a company efficiently.by no.means have we mastered this operation so far.
 
The one thing that I see most always, is people afraid of change. I have thought all along that no matter how many bills per day we move, we cannot continue to move them the way we have in the past and expect to make a profit. Too much handling = more damage, slower service. I would guess maybe moving freight more like Holland, origin terminal to delivering terminal as much as possible, may be in the future. Moving freight from say 303, to 309, to 135, to destination, probably adds at least 1, if not 2 days to delivery. We take 3 days to deliver, competition takes 2, and at the same price. I see road drivers sitting in break rooms, 2 - 3 hours sometimes, waiting on a hook.
A lot of our work rules are so out of date for this LTL enviornment, that we are not able to compete. Just my opinion.

Great post big r guy. I agree 100%. But when i say some thing like that , i get accused of just giving away all the stuff past teamsters have fought for. What seems like people do not want to accept is that the indusry has changed since deregulation. We adapt or get left behind. The real fight is stoping the entire trucking industries wages and work rules from going to a 3rd world country type. Even to a greater extent the entire middle class! I would love to work in the hey day of trucking, but those days are gone. Fact of matter is its not solely yrc fault. So we can do this Yel vs rdwy, and yrc sucks attitude or lets just move on and maybe we can be here and see better days ahead someday.
 
you must be a new hire. Seriously some people still think we haven't given them everything our brothers fought and died for, sad.

There will be more brothers dieing after this change if approved. The closing of break-bulks will cost plenty of jobs. The break-bulks have to be single biggest cost. The only reason New Penn and Holland are profitable is they don't have them. The only way to restore pensions and full pay is when the company is a success. The prim a-donnas are dinosaurs living in prehistoric times and will be asked to leave if they don't want like it. ra ra ra system ba, oooieeeee!!!
 
Thought the "Dark Days of Zollarism"are behind us with all FUBAR events that occurred. Trying to stay positive here and hold my position, finding it hard to do with some cause of the ones who will bail on us. Yeah to stay in the fight you got to change the way you fight or you die.... All we ask for is that we pull through this together as it was ugly but we survived it to this day will make us stronger. They said we were done two years ago and we're still standing bruised but not defeated.

As it was said there hasn't been much fighting lately, take all that energy from complaining and divert it too something positive will deliver good results for us and our livlihoods. I hope we still have people like that here that give a damn or am I talking to a bunch of people with the back bone of a jelly fish.

Didn't mean to offend anyone had to get it off my chest, been in the AOR of SW Asia too long and I'm coming home to this.:wtflol:
 
How about setting up meet and turns that work and getting rid of half of the 450,000 hotel rooms that the company brags about in their "GREEN" initiative? The wasted money from that could go along way in helping to turn things around.
 
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Change doesn`t have to mean giving up work rules,working conditions,wage and pension concessions. The rank and file has given far too much to make up for collossal blunders by the company and incompetent management. The systems in place in the 1980s and 1990s worked fine and the companies made money and the teamsters had good jobs. There were recessions back then,but the companies worked through them without all the wage,pension and working condition givebacks. The companies have now realized that no matter how bad their business decisions are they can make up for it by coming back to the employees and the teamster union and they will take the hit and give back whatever the companies want. How long before the job goes back to what it was in the 1930s or 1940s? The problem is "management". The recession has hit hard,but the biggest problem is "management" and all the operational changes in the world won`t turn incompetent management into sucessful leaders. It`s really make or break time for YRC. How much more are the employees going to giveback to support poor leadership? Will they give back more money,their pension,their working conditions(what`s left of them)? This company is being run like our government,borrow,spend and let someone else worry about paying the bill later and if we lose less money than we did last year,we`re doing good. Anyone willing to move right now for YRC in a coo is really taking a chance.
 
NOBODY even knows WTF the COO is even about yet....wait until it comes out in writing before posting all of your BS and doom and gloom!

I am glad nobody had this attitude back in the mid 50's when Yellow Transit was coming out of a bankruptcy, many never would have benefited from working for them in the future.

Those that are still working for YRC should move the F on and get over it...it is ALL YRC....make it work.

Those who will never make it back, need to move on to some other board and quit stirring **** up on this forum.

Jeff has been very accommodating with many of you on this forum, but the bitching bull**** has to stop.

This forum has provided insight and information for you that NO OTHER website has even come close to.

When a COO or any other information is made available, we get it out here to you.

Even at times when I get reprimanded for doing so, I continue doing so....but some time when I read some of the bull**** you guys post on here, I just want to say to hell with it and move on to something more positive and productive with my life.

TruckingBoards is a privilege....not a right.

The IBT helped save this company from shutting down....many of you have NO IDEA what was about to happen....if YOU got a paycheck this week, then it saved you and your family....there are many still left at YRC.

So, either get more productive and positive about this F'd up mess at YRC and try to make it better, or move the hell on!.....Happy New Year!.....KK
 
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I'm quite sure everyone can cite anecdotal evidence of waste. But for the most part those incidents are NOT why YRC struggles to achieve profitability.
I'll make an analogy. Suppose you hire your neighbor's kid to mow your lawn. When he shows up for the job his friend is with him. They tell you that because the friend brought the lawn mower you will have to pay him to wait, too. He is going to read his comic book while the neighbor's kid mows the lawn!
I hope some will be able to recognize that this type of thing occurs EVERY day at break bulks.
Most of the work rules we enjoy were adopted during regulation. The companies agreed easily because they were guaranteed a profit regardless of how wasteful their operation were.
 
Change doesn`t have to mean giving up work rules,working conditions,wage and pension concessions. The rank and file has given far too much to make up for collossal blunders by the company and incompetent management. The systems in place in the 1980s and 1990s worked fine and the companies made money and the teamsters had good jobs. There were recessions back then,but the companies worked through them without all the wage,pension and working condition givebacks. The companies have now realized that no matter how bad their business decisions are they can make up for it by coming back to the employees and the teamster union and they will take the hit and give back whatever the companies want. How long before the job goes back to what it was in the 1930s or 1940s? The problem is "management". The recession has hit hard,but the biggest problem is "management" and all the operational changes in the world won`t turn incompetent management into sucessful leaders. It`s really make or break time for YRC. How much more are the employees going to giveback to support poor leadership? Will they give back more money,their pension,their working conditions(what`s left of them)? This company is being run like our government,borrow,spend and let someone else worry about paying the bill later and if we lose less money than we did last year,we`re doing good. Anyone willing to move right now for YRC in a coo is really taking a chance.

Well, anytime you think you've already given back too much in order to keep YRC going, why don't you go over to one of the other great Teamster trucking jobs that aren't currently asking for concessions? You know places like Cooper-Jarrett, CF, PIE, Ryder, St. Johnsbury, Maislin, Eastern Express, Helms, Pilot, Schuster, Boss-Linco, Time-DC, Werner Continental, etc., etc.
 
How about setting up meet and turns that work and getting rid of half of the 450,000 hotel rooms that the company brags about in their "GREEN" initiative? The wasted money from that could go along way in helping to turn things around.
The meet and greets or butt head turns as called by either companies would be a way to go,, currently I work at what was a yellow barn, and according to workforce there, they could never get the meet and greets down, according to the men, one of the drivers was always waiting on the other.. The roadway barn I came from had a good number of turns to Harrisburg, Stroudsburgh, and Hagerstown.. These turns save huge money by getting rid of the hotel stays, as we all know, plus the driver is home everynight.. The other thing that makes no sense is how much we handle freight.. Frieght is handled a minimum 4-5 times from Maybrook or Harrisburg to Chicago.. Whatever happened to direct loading?? Less handleing of freight has to be profitable, less damages, freight not getting lost or arriving short, and more importantly arriving to the destination customer on time.. All I hear is, is that YRC is the cheapest carrier out there, I dont know if this is true, but if it is, why are we handleing the freight so many times and reducing the amount of money we can make, and taking the unneeded chances of damaging or losing the customers freight.. These are the things that need to be changed.. I know from working at Roadway we didnt handle the frieght this much and the Yellow men are saying the same thing,, so since Zollars is no longer a part of this company, maybe its time to remove his footprint from the company completely..
 
The company is considering whether further consolidation is needed, but Rogers said he wants to eliminate some freight handling.

“We need to look at the way we’re moving freight through distribution centers,” Rogers said. That could require Teamster approval for a change of operations.

Last fall, Rogers said YRC is handling “too much freight too many times,” which can drive up costs, slow shipments and risk higher claims. Changing the operations, however, is complicated by contractual work rules.

From the link above I would interpret this to mean a couple or three break-bulks will be closed in the COO needing Teamster approval
 
The only reason you had drivers waiting on meets is you had one driver running HOT and the other taking a break an running legal.The super truckers screwed those up.The pee in the bottle non stoppers.
 
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Most of the work rules we enjoy were adopted during regulation. The companies agreed easily because they were guaranteed a profit regardless of how wasteful their operation were.
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This is easily one of the most intelligent and profound statements made here in a very long time. Time for us all to face up to reality. :clap: :clap:
 
The meet and greets or butt head turns as called by either companies would be a way to go,, currently I work at what was a yellow barn, and according to workforce there, they could never get the meet and greets down, according to the men, one of the drivers was always waiting on the other.. The roadway barn I came from had a good number of turns to Harrisburg, Stroudsburgh, and Hagerstown.. These turns save huge money by getting rid of the hotel stays, as we all know, plus the driver is home everynight.. The other thing that makes no sense is how much we handle freight.. Frieght is handled a minimum 4-5 times from Maybrook or Harrisburg to Chicago.. Whatever happened to direct loading?? Less handleing of freight has to be profitable, less damages, freight not getting lost or arriving short, and more importantly arriving to the destination customer on time.. All I hear is, is that YRC is the cheapest carrier out there, I dont know if this is true, but if it is, why are we handleing the freight so many times and reducing the amount of money we can make, and taking the unneeded chances of damaging or losing the customers freight.. These are the things that need to be changed.. I know from working at Roadway we didnt handle the frieght this much and the Yellow men are saying the same thing,, so since Zollars is no longer a part of this company, maybe its time to remove his footprint from the company completely..

The meet&greet/turn vs. straight-run debate has been going on for years and I don't believe there is a single "best" way that applies in every situation. Just my opinion based on observations over many years.
 
The only reason you had drivers waiting on meets is you had one driver running HOT and the other taking a break an running legal.The super truckers screwed those up.The pee in the bottle non stoppers.
No one gets paid to wait on butt-head meets unless there is delay of over an hour. Lunches may be imposed on meet and turns. All our butt-heads were at truckstops. You better read your contract NO lunches may be taken before the 4th hour. Your break should you want or need one should be taken at the meet point.
Check out Article 48!
 
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I would advise those who are tired of their union to withdraw.

There are 22 right to work states. You don't have to pay dues if you live in one of them.

If you live in one of the other 28 union shop states, you may request to withdraw under beck rights. You will be required to pay an agency fee that covers only the costs of actual representation costs for the union.

There is no real representation at YRC any longer. The IBT is going to allow YRC to do whatever it takes to survive. Yes, you may have a vote on it, but it will only be a formality.
 
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