XPO | Where is the leadership....get off your azz and make a command desision!!!

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Ice storm across the upper midwest...city freight stuck, can't get back to the terminal...hey, lets send pm l/h out into this mess.

Drivers in breakroom waiting 2-3 hrs for loads....meanwhile...news that fredrex has cancelled their l/h for safety reasons!!!! Drivers heading north get stuck in traffic...only to get turned around to go back home!!!

A decision around 9 pm would have been great...not 1 am!!! Too freakin funny!!!

Hire the management team from fredrex...
or yrcxdwdxcry or whatever they call themselves these days...

My manager at macdonalds says she could have made a better decision....at least a faster response....hmm....fast food...fast response....

I know...send everyone at linehaul in ann arbor to a makky Dees for fast food decision making.

:D

Have a great weekend everyone...

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yea that was a joke last night, so much for safety first. Coudn't they see the radar all day like I did about ever hour or two I woke up and looked at the radar. I didn't think they would run last night. We asked them do we have to go and they said yes, not what they told us last year. So, could somebody clear that up? There was at least 30 guy's that I have heard about never even made it to their FAC and had to turn around and go home, how much money did that cost con-way? Some terminals made it in and then had to go back on empties, other guy's went out turned around after sitting in trafic for several hours....Just run it on saturday when the rodes are cleared up, but I guess L/H would have to come into work on Saturday.....I don't know what there thinking was....:coffee1:
 
These decisions are typically made by local management not Linehaul. If the roads are open we run 99% of the time.
We were told that even L/H didn't make the decision, well I guess it was, director of L/H. But the FOS said he had no say so in it. ......:coffee1: OH, what's the deal with if we think it's not safe to drive, I have heard that but nothing official.....:coffee1:
 
whiteshirt is correct... your local management sucks. They left those decisions to the terminals a couple years ago. We filed complaints because a couple of drivers were forced out in a blizzard, and almost froze to death. One had to call 911 and get rescued, couldn't keep the truck running due to the 3 minute idle, and it was over -40 below. Your local management has the choice to cancel runs due to safety reasons, regional manager has to make the call if he's shutting down a region, or large area. File a complaint with your regional hr for being forced out in unsafe conditions. Jayman, the deal with that is, don't refuse the run. That's a work refusal, subject to termination. Drive a couple miles, stop due to unsafe conditions and call linehaul. You cannot be diciplined for that. You are the captain of the ship.... you make the decision to drive safely. Screw the freight.
 
Maybe if they would have checked the weather like I did, then they could have used their own judgement and called the (800) number like I did and marked off. But you can be assured of one thing (IF) they went out and screwed up they would have the letter or pink slip ready and waiting for them. Just throwing that out there, but I'm sure that they have (YOUR) safety and well being at heart. I t will be interesting to see how long it will take to get payed for (ALL) of their time spent and not make it to their destination but turn around and go back.
 
If you attemt to make the run and don't do you get paid for how far you drove? And do you have to give them an hour if the road is closed?
 
Local manager has the authority, but he's scared to death to make that decision.
The FOS has the authority also. I've made the decision a few times. Typically if the road is still open we will attempt the run. Safety is always a concern along with servicing the customers freight.
 
The FOS has the authority also. I've made the decision a few times. Typically if the road is still open we will attempt the run. Safety is always a concern along with servicing the customers freight.

More often than not, servicing the customer comes first and safety comes a distant second.
 
More often than not, servicing the customer comes first and safety comes a distant second.
:27::TR10driving03:, If they would have waited until saturday to run L/H, then everybody would have made it on time and all the freight would have made service....:popcorn:
 
:27::TR10driving03:, If they would have waited until saturday to run L/H, then everybody would have made it on time and all the freight would have made service....:popcorn:

Couldnt agree more. They like to say safety is the most important principle..haha what a joke. The most important thing to con-way is maintaining shareholder value. And thats ok, theyre a publicly held company. But dont try to brainwash me with that we expect everyone to get home safely everyday nonsense
 
:27::TR10driving03:, If they would have waited until saturday to run L/H, then everybody would have made it on time and all the freight would have made service....:popcorn:
Its really easy to second guess the decision after the fact. The fact is if the DOT though it was safe for us to be on the road by leaving the roads open then why should we second guess them? You guys are "proffesional" drivers and are expected to be able to safely operate in all kinds of weather conditions. If we shut down everytime there was a storm we would have entire weeks where freight didn't move. Ask the guys in UDV, USU and URE how often they drive over mountain passes in blizzard conditions and safely make it home. Now maybe they should have made the decision, maybe not. If you can't handle a little bit of weather you need to be in a different proffesion. Regardless even if they did someone would be bitchin they canceled their run.
 
Its really easy to second guess the decision after the fact. The fact is if the DOT though it was safe for us to be on the road by leaving the roads open then why should we second guess them? You guys are "proffesional" drivers and are expected to be able to safely operate in all kinds of weather conditions. If we shut down everytime there was a storm we would have entire weeks where freight didn't move. Ask the guys in UDV, USU and URE how often they drive over mountain passes in blizzard conditions and safely make it home. Now maybe they should have made the decision, maybe not. If you can't handle a little bit of weather you need to be in a different proffesion. Regardless even if they did someone would be bitchin they canceled their run.
Can't agree with you on this one. From the weather I saw on the news, this was a major weather event, not a little snow. They re-routed traffic away from the lakeshore, other carriers suspended operations for one day. We could have done that, run fac operations on Saturday or Sunday. And they do suspend operations in the mountains if it's too dangerous. They also have more tandem trucks too. As for the roads being open, that doesn't matter at all . Common sense should prevail. Can't expect the highway patrol to shut down every road.... Safety first maybe?
 
Can't agree with you on this one. From the weather I saw on the news, this was a major weather event, not a little snow. They re-routed traffic away from the lakeshore, other carriers suspended operations for one day. We could have done that, run fac operations on Saturday or Sunday. And they do suspend operations in the mountains if it's too dangerous. They also have more tandem trucks too. As for the roads being open, that doesn't matter at all . Common sense should prevail. Can't expect the highway patrol to shut down every road.... Safety first maybe?
Like I said it's easy to second guess the decision after the fact. I wasn't there and didn't see the weather so I can say what decision I would have made.
 
Like I said it's easy to second guess the decision after the fact. I wasn't there and didn't see the weather so I can say what decision I would have made.

THERE is no such thing as second guessing safety. if you make a mistake then for the love of God error on the side of caution. your decision is easy. i would have loved to hav one of you guys ridealong with the majority of us you sent out. i guarrantee your decision would hav been easy. the less you say on this the better on this topic. My familys income as well as my life was in jeopardy... you cant say that you cant comprehend that. your decison was easy i wasnt hauling any live organs or tissues day later wouldnt hav hurt anything other than the bottomline. your take on this issue makes me sick
 
THERE is no such thing as second guessing safety. if you make a mistake then for the love of God error on the side of caution. your decision is easy. i would have loved to hav one of you guys ridealong with the majority of us you sent out. i guarrantee your decision would hav been easy. the less you say on this the better on this topic. My familys income as well as my life was in jeopardy... you cant say that you cant comprehend that. your decison was easy i wasnt hauling any live organs or tissues day later wouldnt hav hurt anything other than the bottomline. your take on this issue makes me sick
I never said what decision I wold have made. I'm simply saying anyone can make the decision a day later. Were there other companies on the roads? The west coast service centers like URE, UBI, UPI, USU and UDV drive in huge storms all the time. It sounds like they should have cancelled runs. Remember hindsight is 20/20.
 
I'm not sure where this weather event was that we are discussing,but local mgmt. should have made the call.Out here in the NW the R.M. made the call to suspend LH op's for most of the week in the region.Only select few runs that they knew could make it were sent out.The drivers from USU,URE and UDV get shut down on the road or shut down at home on many occasions due to weather.I have been cancelled for weather myself, and glad they did it.
 
With the 'one and done' mindset that many companies that employ us have, I'm not going to take any chances when the roads are bad due to weather. It's very easy for some middle management guy to offer opinions when he's doing it from the confines of his cubicle (or whatever) back at the terminal.
I'm risking my career when I leave in adverse conditions and am all too aware of the lack of support I'll receive from mgmt. or the 'safety' dept. should something happen.
 
something else to consider whiteshirt... if you are sent out on a friday night and get shutdown, the company will not pay you layover pay, as you are not missing your next run. How is that fair? You get put to bed, loose your weekend and don't get compensated for it? If it happens during the week, and you are not able to make your next day's run, at least you get 8 hours pay. no benefit to the driver to run in a bad storm.... run the fac on the weekend and be done with it. Freight makes service, drivers are running in much better conditions. Seems like common sense to me?
 
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