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No, Mikey, in right to work states that fair share fee is not paid, that's what the big deal is. As we are in most states to not be union you would have to pay that fee and it is not large discount.
 
I may be mistaken but I think in this state a FREERIDER isn't required to pay union dues for representation from the local. We have had a few over the years that didn't want to join or pay dues during their probation period or working casual. They were usually persuaded it was in their best interest to join. It is difficult for a FREERIDER to make friends in a union shop.
With the strike my husbands company had, people jumped ship and were allowed back to work. The federal govm said they could not be penalized. We are not a right to work state. The union had no choice but to take them back for the cost of back dues. This is your Federal govnm at work.
 
I understand that the employer pays into the pension, but are you saying in a right to work state, if a person decides to not join the union that he would still have money put into the same fund that union members get. I know that the funds are taken care by someone else than the teamsters, but I thought you still had to be a member to reap this benefit.
Should you end up in a situation like other people who are union members had you would probably luck out. If you get into a different situation you might not be so lucky. The pension contributions go with the employer regardless of whether or not you pay union does.



Those numbers are small in the freight industry. When you get into warehouses and smaller non-freight shops the number of non-members increases. I do not know what the numbers are.
 
I know if I was a steward in one of those states, any grievance filed by the non payers would somehow always find itself untimely.

That's right! Say you have a grievance and your not a dues paying member, and you go to the Boss and say, "Boss, you worked a junior guy around me yesterday on OT and did not offer me that 2 hrs., (or whatever) OT. I need you to ask payroll to add that to my check." You know it ain't gonna be on your on check so you ask your steward about it, and he asks, "Do you pay your dues there bud? You reply, "Nah man too, expensive!" He replies something like, "Go screw yourself!" So you call down to the Local and tell the secretary how the Boss and the Steward blew you off, could she have the business agent call you. She gives him the message and when he pulls you up on the computer and sees no dues paid he instructs the secretary to call you back and tell you to talk to your JOB STEWARD! The steward will then give you a check off card to send to payroll or you can "Go screw yourself!"
But if you pay your dues, grievance gets filed, pay gets adjusted, Boss gets pissed, but he will probably not forget to offer you the OT next time ahead of the junior guy! I have usually always talked to my bosses with respect and air my grievances with them and they get resolved, a little give and take. But if they want to blow you off, then you can bring out the pen and paper! Don't pay your dues, leave your pen in your pocket.
 
I'm glad I read this post. Ive been wondering what the right to work meant. I had someone tell me about it but this ws more in more detail. I just accepted my first union job and i start in a few weeks. I'm not trying to **** no one off and please dont get mad at me but the onething I dont understand is if a junior guy gets a few hours of over time before a senior guy everyone gets mad and files greivances. I could understand it if it happens every single day or week but let the junior guys gets some work to he also has a family to support. I guess I look at things different then everybody else but I thought teamsters are a team of brothers and sisters. I guess I'll find out what its like soon. Again I didnt try to **** anyone off and if I did i'm sorry
 
Moneyman01 said:
I'm glad I read this post. Ive been wondering what the right to work meant. I had someone tell me about it but this ws more in more detail. I just accepted my first union job and i start in a few weeks. I'm not trying to **** no one off and please dont get mad at me but the onething I dont understand is if a junior guy gets a few hours of over time before a senior guy everyone gets mad and files greivances. I could understand it if it happens every single day or week but let the junior guys gets some work to he also has a family to support. I guess I look at things different then everybody else but I thought teamsters are a team of brothers and sisters. I guess I'll find out what its like soon. Again I didnt try to **** anyone off and if I did i'm sorry

Personally junior men can have all the ot there is. But seniority is the only thing we have left and it must be protected
 
I'm glad I read this post. Ive been wondering what the right to work meant. I had someone tell me about it but this ws more in more detail. I just accepted my first union job and i start in a few weeks. I'm not trying to **** no one off and please dont get mad at me but the onething I dont understand is if a junior guy gets a few hours of over time before a senior guy everyone gets mad and files greivances. I could understand it if it happens every single day or week but let the junior guys gets some work to he also has a family to support. I guess I look at things different then everybody else but I thought teamsters are a team of brothers and sisters. I guess I'll find out what its like soon. Again I didnt try to **** anyone off and if I did i'm sorry

The senior guy has to be offered the OT before the junior guy if they start at the same time, and the senior guy has the right to accept it, or pass it down, or if they are already both on OT, and the boss needs to reduce the labor he has on the dock, if properly done the senior guys or gals are given the option. Just keep working, get up a few spots on the board, and it will become crystal clear to you. I've accepted OT, and I've turned it down, never filed a grievance about that. I always went to the office and requested to speak with the Boss when he/she had a minute. Respectfully aired my position about an issue, and we always reached a mutual compromise. Generally, things run pretty smooth when everybody knows their place, and just does their job. I worked my way up to the top of the city board, and now I'm back on the bottom of another one, by choice. I know my place, and I'm the cover guy. I mostly work evenings, but occasionally, I break out, sometimes Utility, but I'm happy as a JackAss in a briar patch, so get to work and be happy with what them senior guys feed ya! Keep workin' and livin' you might be a sorry ass senior guy one day :cool:
 
I understand that the employer pays into the pension, but are you saying in a right to work state, if a person decides to not join the union that he would still have money put into the same fund that union members get. I know that the funds are taken care by someone else than the teamsters, but I thought you still had to be a member to reap this benefit.
You would still get the pension even if you were a free-loader.

I'm glad I read this post. Ive been wondering what the right to work meant. I had someone tell me about it but this ws more in more detail. I just accepted my first union job and i start in a few weeks. I'm not trying to **** no one off and please dont get mad at me but the onething I dont understand is if a junior guy gets a few hours of over time before a senior guy everyone gets mad and files greivances. I could understand it if it happens every single day or week but let the junior guys gets some work to he also has a family to support. I guess I look at things different then everybody else but I thought teamsters are a team of brothers and sisters. I guess I'll find out what its like soon. Again I didnt try to **** anyone off and if I did i'm sorry

How OT is worked is not an absolute thing, unless you are working in a warehouse and you all start at the same time and are all qualified in all aspects of the work under that roof. In freight it can be manipulated by the employer, and we all know that. They play their games with the favorites and it seems to continue without being corrected. If a driver in one area has a heavy pickup day he should, and usually will get the accompanying OT rather than send a driver from another territory out of his way because of his/her seniority. In cases of extra days or both "in window" at same time seniority dictates.
 
I gotta say, paying 2 1/2 hrs pay when sometimes you are only working 5 to 10 hrs a month can be excessive. The union came to us two contracts ago and said they needed that extra 1/2 hr a month to fortify the strike fund, and we haven't had a strike vote since, but they never came back and said we need to go back to 2 hrs.... I think they can use some of that money to help with guys that aren't getting full time hours. That being said, I hate a freeloader... When you start working full time hours, pay your fair share..


Boy, that strike fund should be a nice chunk of change by now, eh?
 
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