Yellow | Why are the german unions stronger then the american ?

snake, this is just my pov but, here goes....
Our Union structure is from the top down and we have been told and told, never question what our Union leadership does just stand behind them. If you will look objectively at whats going on within our Union right now, it is a microcosm of whats going on within our Country. We continue to elect leadership that has no clue as to what it takes for us to make a pay check, no clue as to what we have to go through every day. Stop and think about this; little “Jimmy” has never drove a truck, never humped freight, the man is a lawyer, not a Teamster and has never had to fight for a damn thing in his life.

The European Unions are structured from the bottom up, being a lot more democratic than we are, they elect their leadership from within their ranks, hence the stronger member participation and unity.
 
Most of Europe is bankrupt because of public unions as are most states in the US are bankrupt for the same reason.
Public unions at the helm!!!
 
Yes Joe your right the Unions have out lived their usefulness. The financial industry had absolutely nothing to do with the current money problems in the world!!
 
Yes Joe your right the Unions have out lived their usefulness. The financial industry had absolutely nothing to do with the current money problems in the world!!

If you read his comments more carefully, he's talking about PUBLIC unions, not private sector. There's a huge difference.
 
Triplex, if you look at the time-line of our wages compared to the REAL rate of inflation (including things such as health insurance, gas, etc...) you'll see that our wages have fallen WAY behind. The public sector Unions have kept up on their wages and bennies which gives the appearance of being over payed.

On a side note but should be included; if ya take our gross pay, use that figure as our net and then look at the difference between that and what we should be making...interesting.

Now, just for giggles, if ya take those taxes that we should be paying (if our wages weren’t so far behind), figure the ppl that should be working instead of being out of work and take out all of the unfunded wars from the deficit....just sayin.
 
I lived in Germany for 8 yrs ...... They have a different mind set !! The people & goverment support orginized labor verses our country fighting it at every turn !! They have a very good mix of capitalism & socialism .... something we can't seem to grasp here !!
 
THE G*D D*MN GERMANS AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!
call back to smokey & the bandit for all you people under 30.
 
European unions have more clout because every time someone over there farts, they go on strike, or threaten to. They get entire industries to walk out, and half the other unions walk out in solidarity. That type of loyalty will never again be found in unions over here, therefore, company management knows they will always have the upper hand. People over there are hungry like Americans were 50-60 years ago. European unions would never have stood to see 15% of their livelyhood go back into the pockets of the CEO's, but there was never even a hint of uprising here for it. Unions here will never have the power they once did, and CEO's know it.
 
European unions have more clout because every time someone over there farts, they go on strike, or threaten to. They get entire industries to walk out, and half the other unions walk out in solidarity. That type of loyalty will never again be found in unions over here, therefore, company management knows they will always have the upper hand. People over there are hungry like Americans were 50-60 years ago. European unions would never have stood to see 15% of their livelyhood go back into the pockets of the CEO's, but there was never even a hint of uprising here for it. Unions here will never have the power they once did, and CEO's know it.

Hint of an uprising?
We had half our board out in front of the building begging people to vote for each give back & half of them were actually crying thinking that it might not get voted in.
Now there's some solidarity for ya.
 
If those kind of give backs were voted for in Europe, there would have been full scale riots in the streets, and entire cities would have been shut down (or burned). Over there, they are for workers only, and if the company goes out of business, so what. They could care less about the company, so long as their check cashes (company or government doesn't matter). Everyone is union, so the next job will pick up where the last one left off.... These are the people who rioted when they RAISED THE WORK WEEK TO 35 HRS. My God... Who actually works a whole seven hours a day? That's borderline inhumane treatment... Then again, two hour lunches and wine and beer in the lunch box are the norm.
 
If those kind of give backs were voted for in Europe, there would have been full scale riots in the streets, and entire cities would have been shut down (or burned). Over there, they are for workers only, and if the company goes out of business, so what. They could care less about the company, so long as their check cashes (company or government doesn't matter). Everyone is union, so the next job will pick up where the last one left off.... These are the people who rioted when they RAISED THE WORK WEEK TO 35 HRS. My God... Who actually works a whole seven hours a day? That's borderline inhumane treatment... Then again, two hour lunches and wine and beer in the lunch box are the norm.

And that may explain why the European economy is in shambles.

The jobless rate in the euro area reached the highest on record as the festering debt crisis and deepening economic slump prompted companies to cut jobs.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-31/euro-area-unemployment-rate-reaches-record-11-2-on-debt-crisis.html


And as for Germany:

German unemployment rose for a fourth straight month in July as crisis-hit businesses delayed hiring. It’s a reminder the country, which many in the Eurozone are looking to for help, may have to set its sights on its own economic problems.

Germany: Is strongest European economy heading south? — RT
 
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