ABF | The get it off your chest thread!

Docker · Jan 6, 2013

wolf said:
I know you were not: including the rest of YRC, took it for granted. And I too laughed, as I did with Joes response. Knowing that also was shot. at a specific post. Were we part ways is when you let Docker pull his sheet and stayed silent. I BELIEVE you knew all this. Docker? I expect this from, you I did not

Is that all you do is cry and whine? Face it...your pal Joey is nothing but a Billy Boy hero worshiper who enjoys bashing not only ABF but all Rank and File Teamsters! Since you want to try and pin all this on ABFer...which is just another one of your measly attempts to try to justify Joe's actions by discrediting another good ABF Teamster in the process...we won't even use that reply to ABFer no more...let's use this one:

Joe the plumber said:
Okay, but don't think that's all I do. I work part time at Mohegan Sun as a loyal customer. The two commutes and stay time is 12 -14 hrs a week..I work for food but at least I got a job It's a tough job but somebody has to do it. My wife thinks it's fun. I work an hour a day as landscaper..in my own yard. Maintenance is a full time job on all the equipment.

Why just recently we saw a show on Broadway and did a Motown bar/deli. Life is good. You ought not delay retirement. Nothing is easy but anything is better then working. You don't have to worry about getting up for it, being up for it, or going to it. You look like you're gonna blow a fuse there my friend, lighten up and bro: what's more fun then bashing ABF?

what's more fun then bashing ABF?

Like I say...his fun loving days bashing ABF and the ABF Teamsters are over...here on the ABF forum!!!!!!!!

Docker · Jan 6, 2013

SpeedBump said:
We can say what we want on this thread.

Yes...you can SpeedBump...that's what this thread was made for...

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

papajohn said:
You know I don't mind other people coming here and giving their input, some are even trying to be helpfull, but It sure is getting tired of useless post and always posting negative crap, Seems all they want to is to start a fight, or just keep adding fuel to a fire that really don't concern them. IT REALLY IS GETTING OLD AND PERSONALLY I AM GETTING TIRED OF ALL THE BS.................

Thanks for giving us your input on this Papajohn! Wolf is trying to make it look like Joe is the innocent victim of an unprovoked attack because of just one post of Joe's humor at another poster....but many of us here on this forum know better and so does Wolf...but will never admit that fact. Joe has been intentionally disrupting our forum since the beginning...and like you...I'm very tired of it...especially in a crucial time as now with these upcoming contract negotiations that will have a huge effect on the future for every single ABF Teamster and their families.

There are many of us that don't like to confront Joe about his rhetoric and just ignore it...they just consider the source and realize it's not worth to lower themselves to his level...I don't blame for them that...nothing wrong with that way of thinking...I'm just not like that...I will lower myself to their level in a heartbeat.

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

Docker said:
Hold on there Joe Blow...you not talking to your lover boy Wolfie now...lol

Now...just slow down and spit it out...so..what you are saying...I am lawless...and I say that when it comes to trolls breaking the rules by coming to disrespect my home...you're damn right! Just taking out the trash!

I thought that you wanted me euthanized by intravenous injection...but you never said who you wanted to do it...did you...I sure know it wouldn't be you.

Docker said:
Me...YRC hater...try again there princess...no...me Bill Zollars hater...I know there's no difference there to you...but there's a big difference there to me!!!!

Nothing to reply to these posts of mine?

Joe the plumber said:
what's more fun then bashing ABF?

What's the matter Joe...is it not fun bashing anymore when someone else is having the fun doing the bashing!!!!

It takes the fun right out of it...doesn't it?

Joe the plumber · Jan 7, 2013

Docker said:
Is that all you do is cry and whine? Face it...your pal Joey is nothing but a Billy Boy hero worshiper who enjoys bashing not only ABF but all Rank and File Teamsters! Since you want to try and pin all this on ABFer...which is just another one of your measly attempts to try to justify Joe's actions by discrediting another good ABF Teamster in the process...we won't even use that reply to ABFer no more...let's use this one:

I got your billy boy. Judy McReynolds is my hero. If you're calling the ABFool er (somebody stick a fork in da YRC pig and let it die) a good ABF teamster that's not saying much for ABF teamsters. For only he is the one I single out as the worst of the worst of a teamster. As far as good teamsters go..even you're a click better then he :fingure:

Deleted member 5115 · Jan 7, 2013

wolf said:
I know you were not: including the rest of YRC, took it for granted. And I too laughed, as I did with Joes response. Knowing that also was shot. at a specific post. Were we part ways is when you let Docker pull his sheet and stayed silent. I BELIEVE you knew all this. Docker? I expect this from, you I did not

I do stand corrected, it was a back and forth on ABF asking for money for a new roof. :shrug:

As for Docker pulling s**t? I do not know what you are getting at. I would say that, for the most part, we all accept and welcome participation from visitors in our forums. PJ does not seem to be warmly welcomed anywhere. Docker vehemently defends his positions and questions any and all when they make comments that he doesn't like. He's allowed to and his avatar befits his behavior-that of a good loyal dog but don't mess with it because it can put up a hell of a fight. All he really asks for is support for the comments others make and I see that as a very reasonable demand. I know that I do not just believe what I hear and I try to stick with things I either have seen first hand or can prove. PJ is what he is and most of us know it. I don't understand why he is that way and really don't care. I enjoy watching him make an ass out of himself. I have several codes that I live by and one of them is that birds of a feather flock together. I do not hang out with people who I find low in integrity. I have always felt that you were a decent person but when I see you hanging out with PJ it makes me wonder.

Joe the plumber · Jan 7, 2013

ABFer said:
I do stand corrected, it was a back and forth on ABF asking for money for a new roof. As for Docker pulling s**t? I do not know what you are getting at. I I have several codes that I live by and one of them is that birds of a feather flock together. I do not hang out with people who I find low in integrity. I have always felt that you were a decent person but when I see you hanging out with PJ it makes me wonder.

You are still a lying piece of crap..there was one reference..not back and forth. I got a 'like' for my reply to your cheap bs. Everything out of your mouth is low blow. But then low blows is a culture here. Hate YRC..hate the IBT..hate Zollars hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. The ABF culture of hate..any YRC teamsters that come here will be trashed hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate.

http://www.truckingboards.com/forum/yrc-freight/89614-does-my-math-sound-right.html (YRC) forum

tutone710 said:
Soon ABF will be looking for money for a new roof too. I wonder where they will get it ?

ABFer said:
Word on the street is that they're taking it from Plunger Joe's retirement plan.

Joe the plumber said:
We shall see how much of a hair cut you get from Judy. I can't wait just to laugh in your foolish 2-bit face..fool. You will never get the premium pension I'm getting

never

hate from above
let's put YRC
in da grave..

and stick a fork in da pigs
here is your birds of feather :fingure:

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

Joe the plumber said:
Everything out of your mouth is low blow. But then low blows is a culture here. Hate YRC..hate the IBT..hate Zollars hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. The ABF culture of hate..any YRC teamsters that come here will be trashed hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate.

There you have it Wolf! Your buddy's true self comes out.

Imagine that...he's a little upset...poor guy...maybe now he might find out how his fun loving time of bashing ABF effects some others from ABF that come to visit our forum...but I seriously doubt it...he's just all about himself...and Billy of course!

wolf · Jan 7, 2013

ABFer said:
I do stand corrected, it was a back and forth on ABF asking for money for a new roof. As for Docker pulling s**t? I do not know what you are getting at. I would say that, for the most part, we all accept and welcome participation from visitors in our forums. PJ does not seem to be warmly welcomed anywhere. Docker vehemently defends his positions and questions any and all when they make comments that he doesn't like. He's allowed to and his avatar befits his behavior-that of a good loyal dog but don't mess with it because it can put up a hell of a fight. All he really asks for is support for the comments others make and I see that as a very reasonable demand. I know that I do not just believe what I hear and I try to stick with things I either have seen first hand or can prove. PJ is what he is and most of us know it. I don't understand why he is that way and really don't care. I enjoy watching him make an ass out of himself. I have several codes that I live by and one of them is that birds of a feather flock together. I do not hang out with people who I find low in integrity. I have always felt that you were a decent person but when I see you hanging out with PJ it makes me wonder.

Thank you ABFer. The Sheet I seen was bringing just the "Take a Haircut" post to this forum, then took it further by adding his "ABF Teamsters" into a post doing his level best to make it look like a quote. I really give him to much credit to say that he knew what he was doing but for now I will go with it. And you may be proad of Docker and his methods, I'm not. I always found you to be forthright in your thoughts and even when we disagree it has been respectfull untill last night. Now I gotta get Joe out of the Locker, this leash is just to short.

wolf · Jan 7, 2013

Docker said:
There you have it Wolf! Your buddy's true self comes out.

Imagine that...he's a little upset...poor guy...maybe now he might find out how his fun loving time of bashing ABF effects some others from ABF that come to visit our forum...but I seriously doubt it...he's just all about himself...and Billy of course!

I have to say again he has a point. I seen you attack people that now work for ABF because they once woked at YRC....Why do ya care what goes on here? 4 maybe 5 people now post...of coare the ones that think Docker is th ultimate Teamster.....the rest ya chased off. Is that why your site failed so miserably. Not enough participants to stroke your Ego? Be carefull you don't have many left here. I see that as your failing, not something you can blame on "Trolls IMO. I seen what you are capable of doing to a Forum, divide it so badly that many will not participate anymore. At some point the powers that be will see it here....its a bigger place so you can't have the same effect....But your damn sure gonna try.

GO40 · Jan 7, 2013

Joe the plumber said:
You are still a lying piece of crap..there was one reference..not back and forth. I got a 'like' for my reply to your cheap bs. Everything out of your mouth is low blow. But then low blows is a culture here. Hate YRC..hate the IBT..hate Zollars hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. The ABF culture of hate..any YRC teamsters that come here will be trashed hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate.

http://www.truckingboards.com/forum/yrc-freight/89614-does-my-math-sound-right.html (YRC) forum

hate from above
let's put YRC
in da grave..
and stick a fork in da pigs
here is your birds of feather

Warning letter will be issued....

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

wolf said:
I have to say again he has a point. I seen you attack people that now work for ABF because they once woked at YRC....Why do ya care what goes on here? 4 maybe 5 people now post...of coare the ones that think Docker is th ultimate Teamster.....the rest ya chased off. Is that why your site failed so miserably. Not enough participants to stroke your Ego? Be carefull you don't have many left here. I see that as your failing, not something you can blame on "Trolls IMO. I seen what you are capable of doing to a Forum, divide it so badly that many will not participate anymore. At some point the powers that be will see it here....its a bigger place so you can't have the same effect....But your damn sure gonna try.

Sure...you have seen me attack people..there's no denying that fact...I'm only human...unless you are saying that you never have? That's the problem with you ...you want everyone and everything to be to be perfect and all get along...I have news for you...no one is perfect...everything is not always Ok and people don't always get along. I'm far from perfect...but at least I will admit my faults...I can be overbearing and have been...and even paid the deserved price for it a couple of times...but I stand by my convictions at all times.

As for you accusing me of attacking the poster that now works for ABF now just because he once woked at YRC as the sole reason is ludicrous...at best.He was attacked because he...himself was doing some attacking of his own.You...like Joe...come here and always want to try to make this a YRC and ABF issue when trying to get your point accross and make it look like a hate YRC and the YRC Teamsters. You show me where I made one derogatory remark about YRC or the YRC Teamsters in general...and that's not an individual YRC Teamster or Zollars either...that's because of their individual self and their attitude and mine clash...that happens somtimes in the real world but you like living in a dream world.

You always lay in wait to find something...anything to accuse people of that you don't like...even if you have to wait months...like you have done in the past. Tell me...how many times does this make for you now...you remember your last escapade...I sure do...you went on an all out campaign to discredit Muler...soley on your dislike for the man...just how sad is that? So you see...some people attack and those like you that are sneaky little cowards always accuse others and try to discredit them with absolutely no formal basis at all...and for what...your own personal dislike.But are not man enough to state the real reason for that dislike...you have to accuse them of something else.IMO...that avatar should be of a weasel...not a wolf...that's a way better fit!!!

As for our site...it's still there and will remain...one thing that I can say...you're not over there and never will be...because you despise both the owners and would never even attempt your weasley methods over there...would you?

Finally...if...and when..the Mods or the other ABF Teamsters as a whole ever decide that I'm not welcome here anymore because of my postings...I will accept that fact and move on...after all...I know the way I am and will accept that fact and the responsibility that goes along with it!!!

wolf · Jan 7, 2013

Docker said:
Sure...you have seen me attack people..there's no denying that fact...I'm only human...unless you are saying that you never have? That's the problem with you ...you want everyone and everything to be to be perfect and all get along...I have news for you...no one is perfect...everything is not always Ok and people don't always get along. I'm far from perfect...but at least I will admit my faults...I can be overbearing and have been...and even paid the deserved price for it a couple of times...but I stand by my convictions at all times.

As for you accusing me of attacking the poster that now works for ABF now just because he once woked at YRC as the sole reason is ludicrous...at best.He was attacked because he...himself was doing some attacking of his own.You...like Joe...come here and always want to try to make this a YRC and ABF issue when trying to get your point accross and make it look like a hate YRC and the YRC Teamsters. You show me where I made one derogatory remark about YRC or the YRC Teamsters in general...and that's not an individual YRC Teamster or Zollars either...that's because of their individual self and their attitude and mine clash...that happens somtimes in the real world but you like living in a dream world.

You always lay in wait to find something...anything to accuse people of that you don't like...even if you have to wait months...like you have done in the past. Tell me...how many times does this make for you now...you remember your last escapade...I sure do...you went on an all out campaign to discredit Muler...soley on your dislike for the man...just how sad is that? So you see...some people attack and those like you that are sneaky little cowards always accuse others and try to discredit them with absolutely no formal basis at all...and for what...your own personal dislike.But are not man enough to state the real reason for that dislike...you have to accuse them of something else.IMO...that avatar should be of a weasel...not a wolf...that's a way better fit!!!

As for our site...it's still there and will remain...one thing that I can say...you're not over there and never will be...because you despise both the owners and would never even attempt your weasley methods over there...would you?

Finally...if...and when..the Mods or the other ABF Teamsters as a whole ever decide that I'm not welcome here anymore because of my postings...I will accept that fact and move on...after all...I know the way I am and will accept that fact and the responsibility that goes along with it!!!

Your are right I would never participate in the site...Looked at it and knew it was no place for me. I would say many came to the same conclusion. And I want you to find a ABF against YRC post fom me. I don't recall any. Docker against YRC yes. Muler.against YRC..most defintaly. Oh you will go on about how your all for the Bothers there and then whine cause they accepted concessions and put the screws to your Pension. No thought to that it was coming anyway. Even get mad becuase some of us split will the splitting was good. I'm sure you were told too by some but decided it could never happen to you. It did and now your pissed at the world. Hell they screwed their own and are living it too so what the hell makes you so Danmed Special? Your all Brotherhood as long as there is never a downside to it....NOooo 2 year contract because I may have to join the other Brothers....won't consider the posibility of seperate contracts ect. I Don't really care but don't blow smoke about solidarity. I even see you back Muler on selling out the New hires if that ever comes up by tying to overwhelm the thread. Your damn right I'm gona point that out, if ya wana say its to discredit, it was not me that posted it. And as far as dictating how or when I post, the Mods will do that for me also......not you, but you could always cry to Muler. :17:

It would be nice if I could leave other names out when posting a reply to you but it's imposible, you need backup in every post, droping names thinking it justifies your BS. And if I ignore that you think it's some kinda win, so I sink to your level also.

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

wolf said:
Your are right I would never participate in the site...Looked at it and knew it was no place for me. I would say many came to the same conclusion. And I want you to find a ABF against YRC post fom me. I don't recall any. Docker against YRC yes. Muler.against YRC..most defintaly. Oh you will go on about how your all for the Bothers there and then whine cause they accepted concessions and put the screws to your Pension. No thought to that it was coming anyway. Even get mad becuase some of us split will the splitting was good. I'm sure you were told too by some but decided it could never happen to you. It did and now your pissed at the world. Hell they screwed their own and are living it too so what the hell makes you so Danmed Special? Your all Brotherhood as long as there is never a downside to it....NOooo 2 year contract because I may have to join the other Brothers....won't consider the posibility of seperate contracts ect. I Don't really care but don't blow smoke about solidarity. I even see you back Muler on selling out the New hires if that ever comes up by tying to overwhelm the thread. Your damn right I'm gona point that out, if ya wana say its to discredit, it was not me that posted it. And as far as dictating how or when I post, the Mods will do that for me also......not you, but you could always cry to Muler. It would be nice if I could leave other names out when posting a reply to you but it's imposible, you need backup in every post, droping names thinking it justifies your BS. And if I ignore that you think it's some kinda win, so I sink to your level also.

That's it Wolfie...all I can say that...it's about time that you stand up like a man and state one of your real reasons for your intense dislike for Muler and myself...and I stand by my statement...the pension had absolutely no business being part of the YRC agreement!

Now...as for the rest of your BS...until you start showing proof of your asinine accusations...you will remain nothing but a little weasel making accusations that you can't back up...or lying if you prefer.

Now...as for the crying part...let's get the facts straight...you are the crier... whiner and bushwacking cowardly accuser...remember...I am the attacker...try to remember what this is all about...will ya? And before you go crying about these being insults...they are not...that is the truth! Your sole purpose at this moment and has been for quite awhile now on this ABF forum is to accuse Muler and myself!

Now...here is what you come to the ABF forum for...to accuse:

wolf said:
Getting real desperate ain't ya Docker. Joes got ya bad. :LMAO: I suspect most of the ABF people will see it for what it is....

wolf said:
A TB Mod putting PMs in open forum.....what a shame. Jeff Tell me your not gonna let this go any further.

Like I said...you are nothing but just another disrupting ABF forum troll...the same as Joe...for different reasons and use sneakier tactics such as foolish accusations! Face it Wolfie...you are just like Joe...and birds of of a feather do flock together!!!!!!

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

wolf said:
I fear the consequences. :LMAO: Didn't like the answer I give huh....I will search the Rules of the Road for Dockers decree and get back to ya.

Docker said:
I know you fear the consequences Wolfie...after all the times you pussed out in the past...lol

There was nothing wrong with your answer...I told you...I do things my own way...you are the one that has a problem with that...not me.

And I would advise you to heed Docker's decree...especially a wimp like you!

Anything else you want to elaborate on?

How's that search coming for Joe Blows one postitive posting about the Rank and File? What's the matter Wolfie...the weasel has 1700 some posts...you would think that you could atleast come up with one!

And don't think for a moment that I forgot the main accusation this time around...attacking pure innocent Joe...right? You still have unanswered questions...answer them!!!!

Joe the plumber said:
what's more fun then bashing ABF?

Well Wolfie...let's hear your explanation for this one...

Joe the plumber said:
YEverything out of your mouth is low blow. But then low blows is a culture here. Hate YRC..hate the IBT..hate Zollars hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate. The ABF culture of hate..any YRC teamsters that come here will be trashed hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate.

And this one!

And don't you dare puss out on me this time either Wolfie...

Joe the plumber · Jan 7, 2013

Docker said:
There you have it Wolf! Your buddy's true self comes out.

Imagine that...he's a little upset...poor guy...maybe now he might find out how his fun loving time of bashing ABF effects some others from ABF that come to visit our forum...but I seriously doubt it...he's just all about himself...and Billy of course!

I have no problem with the weak casting me in a bad light (you) or disagreeing vehemently (who ever) or being directly confrontational or even flinging insults to my face directly. I do have a problem with the ABFer's style. He doesn't confront me directly. He just goes around making snide remarks about me that are unprovoked. This is the worst kind of coward. He is a low grade two face

two-faced:
adj
deceitful; insincere; hypocritical
Adj. 1. two-faced - marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings
and acting under the influence of another two-faced -

I hate 2-faced people..I never know
which side to slap first

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

wolf said:
And if I ignore that you think it's some kinda win, so I sink to your level also.

Now...I'm going to hold you to that...and for the record...we are both on the same level at the moment...this is true...but the fact is...you had to step up to this level and I had to step down...so keep the facts straight...shall we...

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

Joe the plumber said:
I have no problem with the weak casting me in a bad light (you) or disagreeing vehemently (who ever) or being directly confrontational or even flinging insults to my face directly. I do have a problem with the ABFer's style. He doesn't confront me directly. He just goes around making snide remarks about me that are unprovoked. This is the worst kind of coward. He is a low grade two face

two-faced:
adj
deceitful; insincere; hypocritical
Adj. 1. two-faced - marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings
and acting under the influence of another two-faced -

I hate 2-faced people..I never know
which side to slap first

C.mon Joe...is that all you got...you do better than that on your average day here on the ABF forum,,,what's the matter...bashing isn't fun no more when you are the bashee?

Me...a coward...who's the one that threatened that I should be euthanized...but I sure don't see you down here getting the job done...do I?

How come it's alway's the wimps who do the threatening...lol

wolf · Jan 7, 2013

Docker said:
That's it Wolfie...all I can say that...it's about time that you stand up like a man and state one of your real reasons for your intense dislike for Muler and myself...and I stand by my statement...the pension had absolutely no business being part of the YRC agreement!

Now...as for the rest of your BS...until you start showing proof of your asinine accusations...you will remain nothing but a little weasel making accusations that you can't back up...or lying if you prefer.

Now...as for the crying part...let's get the facts straight...you are the crier... whiner and bushwacking cowardly accuser...remember...I am the attacker...try to remember what this is all about...will ya? And before you go crying about these being insults...they are not...that is the truth! Your sole purpose at this moment and has been for quite awhile now on this ABF forum is to accuse Muler and myself!

Now...here is what you come to the ABF forum for...to accuse:

Like I said...you are nothing but just another disrupting ABF forum troll...the same as Joe...for different reasons and use sneakier tactics such as foolish accusations! Face it Wolfie...you are just like Joe...and birds of of a feather do flock together!!!!!!

Is there a point? I Stand by both of those posts.....even shut my PM off as it became apparent that my thoughts on that issue were not shared by this Forum. Contolled the only thing I could, even tried to put your Mod on ignore but that is not posible. And the info on your last boondoggle is now public too. Have fun.

Docker · Jan 7, 2013

wolf said:
Is there a point? I Stand by both of those posts.....even shut my PM off as it became apparent that my thoughts on that issue were not shared by this Forum. Contolled the only thing I could, even tried to put your Mod on ignore but that is not posible. And the info on your last boondoggle is now public too. Have fun.

That's your typical sneaky self Wolf...let me make this clear...are you insinuating or implying in any way that our Mod has been trying to PM you on this issue? I want you to make this accusation perfectly clear.

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