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So by this same logic, if your set is already hooked when you get to work, and at the end of the day, you leave your set hooked and drop out you should only charge one TO for the entire day? It was the company's choice to set pay in quarter hour increments for specific pay tasks. It's rather disingenuous to pay for some and not for others.
Tell me, if RC can hook a set or break a set in 15 minutes, should he make sure he doesn't get that second trailer up to the dock until the full 30 minutes has elapsed? If RC is fueling and there is only one fuel pump with three drivers waiting, should he take the full fifteen minutes to fuel?
RC can be efficient and do it faster, or to make you all feel that RC has not cheated the system, RC can make time stand still.
He really doesn't give a sheet.
 
Richard Cranium said:
So by this same logic, if your set is already hooked when you get to work, and at the end of the day, you leave your set hooked and drop out you should only charge one TO for the entire day? It was the company's choice to set pay in quarter hour increments for specific pay tasks. It's rather disingenuous to pay for some and not for others.
Tell me, if RC can hook a set or break a set in 15 minutes, should he make sure he doesn't get that second trailer up to the dock until the full 30 minutes has elapsed? If RC is fueling and there is only one fuel pump with three drivers waiting, should he take the full fifteen minutes to fuel?
RC can be efficient and do it faster, or to make you all feel that RC has not cheated the system, RC can make time stand still.
He really doesn't give a sheet.
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Sadly, you missed the point. We're not dealing with two different sets. We're dealing with the set you arrive at the meet point with, and you're by rule not supposed to drop said until your turn driver arrives. So dropping the set is a personal choice, not a requirement. I drop my set before my lunch, as a courtesy to my meet driver, because if he shows up while I'm on lunch he can hook and go home to his family, instead of waiting for me to finish lunch and unhook from the set. And before someone says it, he's not allowed to unhook my tractor because it will kick me off lunch when he moves it. And before the next idiot says it; taking your handheld and moving it away from your tractor so you can work on your lunch is "falsification" and one of my domicile drivers was caught in a hub in CA doing that. He rec'd a critical write up, 3 days suspension and 6 months probation. So just be smarter than a box of rocks and do what you're told to do??? No, you'll keep trying to beat the system....and in the process, the system will beat you all the way out to the curb.

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Did I miss the point? Think about it.
At the beginning of your day, if you hook to and pretrip a set that had come in with another driver do you charge a TO?
At the end of the day, if you post trip and drop out from a set and leave it hooked for another driver, do you not charge a TO?
What makes it any different in the middle of the day?
You are doing the same things, post tripping and dropping one set and hooking to and doing a pretrip on another.
 
How is that mindless? The company has a set procedure and a certain way they pay. If you are a biting by the work rules, how is it mindless?

Guardrail
 
Guardrail said:
How is that mindless? The company has a set procedure and a certain way they pay. If you are a biting by the work rules, how is it mindless?

Guardrail
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As long as there are people willing to do two tasks and get paid for one, I stand behind my mindless automaton comment.
 
I thought RC was trying way to hard to be upset about something that isn't worth being upset about. A T/O at a turn point is a single event. You're not supposed to unhook until your turn driver gets there. Trying to double charge is really out there....
 
Someone in the past showed 5 fuels when they only fueled 3, and showed drops when they dropped sets, used to be called a drop (D) with hooked set in the remarks, now they use TO and D to end the confusion. The driver is no longer employed here, falsification of log/payroll- get's you everytime...QUOTE=Richard Cranium;1251143]One would think so. Did it once and got paid for it.
I think they would say no, but like all things here, it make no sense to pay a drop and a hook but not two TO's, especially when delay doesn't start until you've been there for much longer than a TO.[/QUOTE]
 
Richard Cranium said:
Wow, and all this time I thought RC was acting like the rule should be changed so that it is equitable.
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You don't get it, do you. I don't disagree that the rule should be changed. But calling someone mindless when they are abiding by the rules is like calling the driver in front of you mindless because he is obeying a speed limit that you don't agree with..

Arguing for change on TB is not the best approach. Someone would be pretty dumb to disagree with a change that will pay them more money. Advocating an action that could result in another employee's punishment is a different story. I see it as irresponsible, at best.

If you don't like the rule, get it changed. Changing it yourself, with the hopes of not getting caught, is probably not the best course of action.
 
You do the drop and hook when the driver shows up, hence 15 minutes. If you have had your lunch and a half hour has passed, with central notified, you start your delay compensation until your driver arrives and then drop out- noting when your driver arrived, then call central to update and end the delay.

With the handhelds once the delay has ended, you put in the start and finish when the driver has arrived then put in your task- TO. I don't think it is necessary to call central anymore. Unless you have empties and your H/H doesn't show a via, I could be wrong. I would feel better calling central in this situation.
 
And the end result would be that you stayed even longer with no compensation for your time. Central will not pay you for your time spent on hold waiting for them to answer the phone. The whole point of my argument is the fact that we are required to sit and wait at the company's direction, in some dirt lot, often with no restroom facilities or shade, without compensating us for our time. Yes, you can get out from under one set and under another in 15 minutes but delay doesn't start until you have been delayed more than 30. Apparently not very many of us feel that our time has value.
As far as arguing the point on the forum, what better way, short of litigation, is there to raise awareness of the issue so that more people would question this abuse of the employees?
 
Richard Cranium said:
And the end result would be that you stayed even longer with no compensation for your time. Central will not pay you for your time spent on hold waiting for them to answer the phone. The whole point of my argument is the fact that we are required to sit and wait at the company's direction, in some dirt lot, often with no restroom facilities or shade, without compensating us for our time. Yes, you can get out from under one set and under another in 15 minutes but delay doesn't start until you have been delayed more than 30. Apparently not very many of us feel that our time has value.
As far as arguing the point on the forum, what better way, short of litigation, is there to raise awareness of the issue so that more people would question this abuse of the employees?
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Should've said that in your first post...kinda hard to disagree. I routinely get burned at a via...45 minutes to an hour and I get a DH. Not a happy camper. Have to spike the koolaid to smile about it....
 
No I did not drink the koolaid but have had this happen to many times the meet driver is sleepy so he takes a nap on the way to the meet or his lunch or whatever so he can turn and not have to wait on you so with this in mind does FED EX owe you delay time or the meet driver owe you?
 
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