FedEx Freight | UNION: Organize, or not?

Ben Franklin told the founding fathers that if they didn't stick together they would all hang separately and that's exactly what's been going on. Employees getting picked off one by one. There are plenty of things I don't like about the union. 3 years of the teamsters in Chicago back in the late 80's really opened my eyes to how " things get done " . I am open to any other mechanism by which we can show or put on a united front to the corp. if such a thing exist apart from the union.
 
I'm sure you are a great mind, an excellent debater, and can sway many to your way of thinking. I have no idea. You don't like my opinions that I've posted. Not a problem. You perhaps support the union concept. Fine. I don't. The various reasons I don't care for the union concept are referenced previously. You stated that I came to these conclusions because of "movies".. That is a typical response from an opposing side. This isn't the first time that has been thrown out there: "you've been watching to much tv" I don't care for the union because of what I have seen in person, some of the people (the die hards for sure) , the actions and plague they spew only to muddy the waters, how the environment in the work place becomes "heavy", "loaded" ""cynical" I said I respect those that may want a union. I don't agree again for the reasons I've referenced. There is a difference from a "life timer" and someone "green". If the union of the 21st century is a beautiful thing, one of friendliness, love, empathy, grand get-togethers and family picnics, hey great Good for you all. That's what the union puppet masters want the rest of the non believers to think. The union will solve all problems, they are the great savior. Again I can respect ones desire to want to follow. Not me. So we are wasting each others time here any further

I think you've made your opinion clear several times now. You think anybody with a grievance or concerns about their job doesn't know how to deal with life, and is most likely a slacker. The unions do all their business through intimidation, riding around in flatbed trucks with a bunch of mouth breathing morons holding shovel handles and single shot break action shotguns to do their business.

I'm sure that folks from small terminals have a completely different experience of day to day operations with this company than those of us that have a hundred + road board, another hundred + city board, + dock and part time workers. Please don't bring propaganda and hype to the discussion. Don’t presume to know what the work environment of a major hub is based on your local small outfit experience. Getting into circular arguments/discussion helps none of us. If your small first name basis outfit doesn’t want to organize, then don’t.
 
The small terminals are having problems as well for city boys. A lot of my friends run out of tol centers and say their goal is everything delivered by 2pm they are hiring extra drivers to do this slashing the hours of 20 + year city boys from 45 to 35. The tms have said they will keep hiring till they can make the goal daily..

FedEx freight wants part time drivers' sounds like Walmart to me. fedex is saving so much money next year on insurance they can have drivers at home and supply the benefits.
 
Another Board where you have about 10 disgruntled employees telling everyone the benefits of going Union. A lot of FXF employees have worked Union jobs and are doing better now than with the Union. You talk about job security if we were Union, are you serious? I won't even waste my time listing all the Union Truck Lines that have closed in the last 20 years.The Union will tell you what ever you want to hear and promise you the world. Honestly out of around 500 employees ( EKC, KCY) have you been able to get more than 30 people to show up to a Union meeting? You get paid good money with good benefits to do a job. That's all it is A JOB. Not a religion, a way of life, or family. Just a job. FXF is not afraid of the Union and is not going Union. I use to be a big Union supporter until I got a Union job and was Shop Steward and saw first hand how the Union works. And yes that company is no longer in business any more. Those of you that feel you need the Union I wish you Luck. I bet in the next 20 years a lot of you want to be Union workers will be retiring from a Non Union FXF still complaining.
 
Just a reminder, please, please, lets keep this thread open to FXF employees only, these good men and women have alot to talk about, if your not an employee of FXF the Union Non-Union thread at the top of the page is a place to discuss your for's or against's.
 
I think you've made your opinion clear several times now. You think anybody with a grievance or concerns about their job doesn't know how to deal with life, and is most likely a slacker. The unions do all their business through intimidation, riding around in flatbed trucks with a bunch of mouth breathing morons holding shovel handles and single shot break action shotguns to do their business.
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I don't think I ever said ANY AND ALL union members are as you seem to think I believe. I just have to say again and again, its when the going gets tough, pre-strike talk for example, demands being made, when the "heavyweights" come out from who knows where, up to actually striking.....what you get is a bunch of hard-assed meatheads riling everybody up and some then change their demeanor and the atmosphere changes for the worse. Believe what you want. Good luck to any and all of you who go the unionize route. It'll be interesting to see how it all works out for you:Emoticon_digging:
 
My Dad was an employee of Smiths transfer from 1975 to close...he always told me to try to get on with a union carrier if I decided to pursue his occupation. Well we all know how that worked out....needless to say when I was trying to get a foot through the door with abf, yellow and the like, none would even let me put an application in. A union pension would be quite better than this crap fedex freight gives us but oh well, that's the way it is. The way I understand it, are the pensions still what they used to be?
 
I remember the day I walked in at FedEx. So proud, so anxious and so eager. We had a good management team at our terminal. The thought of organization was furthest from anyone's mind. How times have changed. Those managers have moved off long ago to be replaced by inept and the incompetent.

We now have tow motors at full throttle to meet what what management deems as his bph. We have drivers who truly bust their hind ends, or rather, allow themselves to be pushed, while others sit back and skate out the day.deliberately avoiding doing any more work than they have to, and when you mention it, they say they know, and again do nothing.

We have a dispatch that is reluctant to accept any ideas that drivers have. His ideas are better. But yet ask him where stops are in relationship go one another, he hasn't a clue. Instead he just pawns it off onto to a driver that he knows he can depend on, and let the others collect their checks for doing the least amount of work.

Then we can address our scm, who as one driver, is reinventing the wheel. Who changes policy midstream, goes against company policy, and does exactly what he thinks is best. How things have truly and honestly changed. We have become just a center now, standing alone, when at one time we would be recognized over and over again for our efforts.

I have been in enough union places. I don't believe union is the whole answer. We have our surveys. Corporate knows where the problems are. However they are slow to do anything or reluctant to do anything. I'm not sure that a union vote will solve the issues at our center, but, if it would make FedEx wake up and truly address the issues, and if by joining, will hold management responsive and responsible, then sign me up.
 
I remember the day I walked in at FedEx. So proud, so anxious and so eager. We had a good management team at our terminal. The thought of organization was furthest from anyone's mind. How times have changed. Those managers have moved off long ago to be replaced by inept and the incompetent.

We now have tow motors at full throttle to meet what what management deems as his bph. We have drivers who truly bust their hind ends, or rather, allow themselves to be pushed, while others sit back and skate out the day.deliberately avoiding doing any more work than they have to, and when you mention it, they say they know, and again do nothing.

We have a dispatch that is reluctant to accept any ideas that drivers have. His ideas are better. But yet ask him where stops are in relationship go one another, he hasn't a clue. Instead he just pawns it off onto to a driver that he knows he can depend on, and let the others collect their checks for doing the least amount of work.

Then we can address our scm, who as one driver, is reinventing the wheel. Who changes policy midstream, goes against company policy, and does exactly what he thinks is best. How things have truly and honestly changed. We have become just a center now, standing alone, when at one time we would be recognized over and over again for our efforts.

I have been in enough union places. I don't believe union is the whole answer. We have our surveys. Corporate knows where the problems are. However they are slow to do anything or reluctant to do anything. I'm not sure that a union vote will solve the issues at our center, but, if it would make FedEx wake up and truly address the issues, and if by joining, will hold management responsive and responsible, then sign me up.

You say many good things here........but for me, I remember walking into a company expressing an interest in employment and being made aware of their strong stance against unions. At the time I could have said no thank you, or do as I did and pursued a position. I knowingly accepted the job and understood there were no guarantees at all. Again, for me, to now cry foul and belly ache about things not to my liking and then run for mommy (the union) to make things better (to kiss my boo-boo) or get my daddy (union) to fight my supposed bully is pathetic. One does not work for a non-union company only to try and make it a union company and vise versa. Not referring to you at all, but that to me is pure ignorance and foolish, and anyone beating that drum is wasting their breathe and:Emoticon_digging:, IMO. The only thing I would disagree with is your statement that the butt busters let anyone push them. Some maybe, but not all. Otherwise good post
 
You say many good things here........but for me, I remember walking into a company expressing an interest in employment and being made aware of their strong stance against unions. At the time I could have said no thank you, or do as I did and pursued a position. I knowingly accepted the job and understood there were no guarantees at all. Again, for me, to now cry foul and belly ache about things not to my liking and then run for mommy (the union) to make things better (to kiss my boo-boo) or get my daddy (union) to fight my supposed bully is pathetic. One does not work for a non-union company only to try and make it a union company and vise versa. Not referring to you at all, but that to me is pure ignorance and foolish, and anyone beating that drum is wasting their breathe and:Emoticon_digging:, IMO. The only thing I would disagree with is your statement that the butt busters let anyone push them. Some maybe, but not all. Otherwise good post



At one time most of us had your attitude...As far as changing horses in mid stream as you say we want to do by bringing the union in now all I can say is I haven't heard of one single company that opened their doors on day 1 with a union already in place. People don't naturally want to give someone else ( union ) a portion of their wages without a good reason.
 
I'm no longer with the company due to my cancer and with all i've seen happen in the last 22 yrs with the company and what my still employed friends tell me about whats happening these days I'm glad I'm not there to worry about it anymore. So long FedUp. Go Union! Screw Fred
 
After Reading All The Post Everyone Has Posted.The One Thing That Sticks Out To Me Is Windsurfer Is ANTI UNION... Good God Man Are You A Red Shirt Or What? If Not You Want To Be. I've Never seen One Person Bash On One Post As You. We Get It You Don't Like A Union.
 
I have a buddy who was let go from FedEx Freight after 19 years just for commenting about a salesman! Unfreaking believable! You guy's better be thinking about job security. And yes i am a Teamster now but i came from AF/ Fedex Freight.
 
I have a buddy who was let go from FedEx Freight after 19 years just for commenting about a salesman! Unfreaking believable! You guy's better be thinking about job security. And yes i am a Teamster now but i came from AF/ Fedex Freight.

Its the no leering policy that's got me scared. Sometimes you just gotta look at em longer.
 
Another Board where you have about 10 disgruntled employees telling everyone the benefits of going Union. A lot of FXF employees have worked Union jobs and are doing better now than with the Union. You talk about job security if we were Union, are you serious? I won't even waste my time listing all the Union Truck Lines that have closed in the last 20 years.The Union will tell you what ever you want to hear and promise you the world. Honestly out of around 500 employees ( EKC, KCY) have you been able to get more than 30 people to show up to a Union meeting? You get paid good money with good benefits to do a job. That's all it is A JOB. Not a religion, a way of life, or family. Just a job. FXF is not afraid of the Union and is not going Union. I use to be a big Union supporter until I got a Union job and was Shop Steward and saw first hand how the Union works. And yes that company is no longer in business any more. Those of you that feel you need the Union I wish you Luck. I bet in the next 20 years a lot of you want to be Union workers will be retiring from a Non Union FXF still complaining.

I really am shocked at this. If there is (but there are more) only 30 at the meetings then that's because people are scared to show up. I really believe with all the folks I know that many more would sign cards and vote yes. I really don't see how you could see different if you work out of either one of these centers.


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