I was told by our driver trainer that soon we will be trained about rollovers and sign a paper that says that if you have a rollover it is manditory termination. There wouldn't be problem if people knew how to load freight. I'm surprised I haven't seen a tote or 55 gal drums on a e-track rack.
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companyclown
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What about malfunctioning ABS systems? Kite skids out of line on you and the of course rolls over.......Only an inexperienced dsr would let it skid that far, but with all the newbies this company has. Just saying.
companyclown
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If it feels unstable or leaning funny......Have em break the seal and reload it.
Seriouly?!?! Whats wrong with newbies??? You were a FNG once upon a time to there driver. In the 7 years I have been with Con-way, I knew 1 FNG who rolled his set. I can think of at least 6 guys who were NOT "newbies" who either rolled a box or the whole darn train. When you are new, you are only as good as the guy who trained you. Just because you are new DOES NOT mean you are not GOOD driver.
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I was actually talking about the apprentice program
We load freight the same as always... as best we can with the equipment/technology available. What has changed is characteristics of the equipment once loaded. Driving habits more often influence the stability of the trailers, not the other way around. If load shift was the magical answer to every rollover, then why doesn't a trailer rollover before leaving the yard? Our rollover crash statistics show 44% of rollovers involve turning. Almost all (91%) of that 44% involve left-hand turns. Load shift occurs when lateral force overcomes the friction created from the weight of the cargo against the floor. Poor driving habits are a larger cause than loading errors.
You can go down any dock in the afternoon and pop trailer doors to exam the condition of loads on returning city runs. I can quickly tell you which drivers would be considered "high risk" for rollover. It's all about driving habits. You adjust for weather conditions, traffic, loaded weight of your combined units, why not the change in trailer design? Many want to run around blaming SafeStack and poor loading. But we have always developed new technology regarding loading to better cube a trailer. Too often a driver's own habits are their worst enemy.
I agree that driving habits are to blame more often than not, but.....
We had a guy roll his rear trailer 18000 pound load 3000 on the floor, 15000 on load tables in a Safestack trailer. He lost his job, I'm sorry this isn't right. The company said the load had already traveled 500 miles without a rollover hence it was the drivers fault.
We had a guy roll his rear trailer 18000 pound load 3000 on the floor, 15000 on load tables in a Safestack trailer. He lost his job, I'm sorry this isn't right. The company said the load had already traveled 500 miles without a rollover hence it was the drivers fault.
my personal rule is to never second-guess specific results of drivers and accidents on this site. A lot of those loosing their job in our current environment of safety policy posses the question of.. Why?
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I have personally nearly turned over 2 pups at different times because ultra heavy skids were loaded down the middle and not blocked or braced. I had nothing to do with the loading...hooked up to sealed trailers both times. 
snaildriver said:I have personally nearly turned over 2 pups at different times because ultra heavy skids were loaded down the middle and not blocked or braced. I had nothing to do with the loading...hooked up to sealed trailers both times.
My old place had a roll over that spilled 16 thousand pounds of newspaper ink onto the road because the supervisor instructed a newbie to load them down the middle and not race them in trying to make cut time. The ink turned the nearby stream green and they had to strip up the pavement because the ink would seep back up if it rained and ruin the paint jobs on peoples cars.
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Recognizing how a trailer feels to you is the key...If it does not feel right to your standards.....you pop the seal and see what is going on. I disagree with the statement about loading the same way always.....that is not true. It used to be that way....but now....the standards have changed. Trailers are force loaded and the next guy to come along with a skid only cares about how he or she is gonna fit it in there. Day lanes may be loaded by a single dsr but most trlrs are force loaded.
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Where did this happen? XCO?
i agreei withe youc i askedd myi unclee thee amazing kreskin and he shoowed mee how two putt my handss on the side of the trlr and "feel" the load. he waz taut bye heis uncle YODA !!. sorrie for duh spellling eye no dat killzzs ya.
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Hey bartender.......Get Doppler a drink on me.
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UPS freight.. that explains his knowledge
snaildriver
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Watch it! If he has a wreck and hurts someone, they can sue you.