ABF | Is Implementation on its Way?

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And you've never heard of photoshop.........There was a guy who couldn't wait to show me the latest I-Phone video of Sarah Palin slapping Barack Obama.....yeah...If they want you bad enough, they'll photoshop you stealing time,...or freight,...or whatever. Any 15 year old kid could do it.....No Corroboration, remember? Burden of proof is now on you to explain how and why it was photoshopped. I don't know you at all, Rollin62 but you must have very tiny feet, 'cause every time you open your mouth, you're inserting both feet......Or maybe you've just got a big mouth.......
The paranoia on this board tells me you guys are a bunch of crooks scared to lose their job. I'd stop stealing time and just do your job. It's the jack offs that's been giving management a hard time for years that are nervous about the cameras. All I can say is you guys dug your own grave by demonstrating poor work ethic and having no integrity. What goes around comes around. Like I said, if you are an honest, hard working human being, that camera isn't watching you
 
The paranoia on this board tells me you guys are a bunch of crooks scared to lose their job. I'd stop stealing time and just do your job. It's the jack offs that's been giving management a hard time for years that are nervous about the cameras. All I can say is you guys dug your own grave by demonstrating poor work ethic and having no integrity. What goes around comes around. Like I said, if you are an honest, hard working human being, that camera isn't watching you

Once again,....spoken like a true non-Union management parasite.....
 
Once again,....spoken like a true non-Union management parasite.....
I come on these boards to see what's going on within our company. I don't hide behind a screen name . I use my real name, and I'm out of 088. I transferred from 084, June 2012. I have over 8 years in this union. 5 years with ABF, the rest with USF Holland.I previously worked 12 years with Averitt Express and 3 with Drug transport. From my experience, us union drivers are the most experienced and hard working drivers in the industry. As for the cameras, you know nothing of what your talking about. I worked with a mail co that had them in their trucks. It's not fun having them go off every time a yellow light catches you, and you have to hard brake to avoid running a red light. Or try getting a call from safety saying you were doing 78 , when your truck only goes 62. I am sick and tired of your cutting us drivers down. You are like those pieces of crap that made comments on the internet about my son's death, and they lived on the other end of the country, they did not know him. It's easy to hide behind a key board and say all these things, isn't it. That's because your a Pu#%Y. Go back under your rock, because we don't need you on these boards. Thank God Lay Offs are Coming , because you won't be working. You can go back to Con Way where you belong.
 
Rollin says " I don't care how many are on the roster as long as my name is still on it "
Now if that don't fit the ME generation I don't know what does.
Me Me Me Meesters the new generation.
When your the next on the list for a driving bid and the company is using interline to deliver your freight you may change your tune son. You need to look a bit farther down the road than the end of your nose

Let's be honest now. Many old school Teamsters feel the same way. Running like mad on a hog board while the Jr guys sit at home and starve. The Me Me Me Meesters have been around for decades.
 
Sure. The guys sucking the life out of this company is the reason their even having to ask for 7%. If you do the math, in 5 years we retain the concessions plus a raise. With cameras intact, we will see how many clock suckers are disposed of so we can go back to full pay scàle. I think it's great about the cameras. If you doing your job, why even worry about a camera.

This entire post is an assumption. You are the most clueless poster on these boards and your ignorance only proves you are in management.
 
Let's be honest now. Many old school Teamsters feel the same way. Running like mad on a hog board while the Jr guys sit at home and starve. The Me Me Me Meesters have been around for decades.
I'm getting old now and I've seen a lot of things that weren't/aren't done right. Nobody took a day off so I could work when I was the new guy. I paid it forward once and passed a day on to a guy with less seniority who was about to lose his health insurance. His attitude was that I owed it to him. We had eight other guys but I was the one who owed it to him. That'll never happen again. Then I have a Shop Steward who worked every day while the guy above him on the list was on the cusp, working two-three days a week. Claimed he was his friend. That Steward who was working every day because he was the Steward wouldn't even take a sick, personal or other day off so his "friend" could work and keep his health insurance. Then he had the balls to try to tell me to give up Saturday work for a casual. So...if I look and/or sound cold and meesterish it's because of my experiences. However, I would still not bump a guy out of his health insurance because of my position as Steward.
 
Let's be honest now. Many old school Teamsters feel the same way. Running like mad on a hog board while the Jr guys sit at home and starve. The Me Me Me Meesters have been around for decades.

If they were around for "decades" , then they have been created by the previous hog board while they were on the bottom. It's the old "I finally got mine after years of being snubbed. Now it's my turn." Very selfish, very childish. This isn't the army, seniority isn't rank. We all pay the same amount dues, at least after two years. If there's a strike, the 30 year man needs the three year man on the picket line with him. Superseniority for stewards is wrong,....and I say that as a steward. The top of the board should be cultivating good Union habits in the bottom of the board,....Solidarity,....being an active member,...looking out for your fellow employee,...Proving that a Union employee is the best employee,...the most professional,.......these are the things the top of the board should be promoting.....through example. Sadly,...in some places, this doesn't happen. Probably why we are in this position,..contract-wise,..that we are in now. But,....if you think Union companies are the only ones with a few selfish employees,....you haven't been around very many non-Union docks. Knee pads are the uniform of the day,...and management promotes a culture of snitches. Some non-union guys resist and try to maintain their dignity,....but many,...in fear for their job,....do not. Come now, Rollin62,...you were/are at Conway. Tell us all about kneepads and snitches.........
 
I hear ya Stoney..
These same guy's were starving with 2 trips a week and would not even think of working the weekends or Holidays. They had Boats,4 wheeler"s and 5th wheel trailers and other toys that were more important until the notes come due .
Funny how the parking lot thinned out after the business went to pot.
I was crying big tears for these kids.
Let's be honest now. Many old school Teamsters feel the same way. Running like mad on a hog board while the Jr guys sit at home and starve. The Me Me Me Meesters have been around for decades.
Hey man don't sign the OT list then they will have to call some guys back. So you don't sign and they can't get signed up fast enough and then milk it out for 2 early and 4 late.
Sad to say had one put a gun to his head when he could not cover all the notes working 60 hrs a week.
 
I hear ya Stoney..
These same guy's were starving with 2 trips a week and would not even think of working the weekends or Holidays. They had Boats,4 wheeler"s and 5th wheel trailers and other toys that were more important until the notes come due .
Funny how the parking lot thinned out after the business went to pot.
I was crying big tears for these kids.
Hey man don't sign the OT list then they will have to call some guys back. So you don't sign and they can't get signed up fast enough and then milk it out for 2 early and 4 late.
Sad to say had one put a gun to his head when he could not cover all the notes working 60 hrs a week.
When I was at roadway they forced you to work Saturday or you had to use a sick or personal day & this was a eol terminal not a break....
 
I hear ya Stoney..
These same guy's were starving with 2 trips a week and would not even think of working the weekends or Holidays. They had Boats,4 wheeler"s and 5th wheel trailers and other toys that were more important until the notes come due .
Funny how the parking lot thinned out after the business went to pot.
I was crying big tears for these kids.
Hey man don't sign the OT list then they will have to call some guys back. So you don't sign and they can't get signed up fast enough and then milk it out for 2 early and 4 late.
Sad to say had one put a gun to his head when he could not cover all the notes working 60 hrs a week.
Somehow our citizens have gotten trained to get way in over their heads financially. All short sighted and no long sightedness to it. All that interest they pay for those luxuries takes its toll on your end game over time. Then they cry because they can't retire. I know they have figures for how much the average American carries on their credit cards every month but I'd like to see what that average American pays in interested over the course of his/her life. That is something they should be teaching the kids in school today.
 
At upsf every barn voted on what type of board they wouldhave a hog or rotation, thank god my barn has a rotation board, the older drivers told us new drivers," the reason we voted for a rotation board is becuz we know how the bottom guys feel on a hog board, we were all there at one point and it was a struggle to pay the bills, and keep my wife off my back," but we have barns that run a hog board and they struggle to keep a fully staffed extra board, becuz at .4075cpm for the first year, with two trips a week, who can survive on that???
 
I'm getting old now and I've seen a lot of things that weren't/aren't done right. Nobody took a day off so I could work when I was the new guy. I paid it forward once and passed a day on to a guy with less seniority who was about to lose his health insurance. His attitude was that I owed it to him. We had eight other guys but I was the one who owed it to him. That'll never happen again. Then I have a Shop Steward who worked every day while the guy above him on the list was on the cusp, working two-three days a week. Claimed he was his friend. That Steward who was working every day because he was the Steward wouldn't even take a sick, personal or other day off so his "friend" could work and keep his health insurance. Then he had the balls to try to tell me to give up Saturday work for a casual. So...if I look and/or sound cold and meesterish it's because of my experiences. However, I would still not bump a guy out of his health insurance because of my position as Steward.

It's a Union Shop....everybody knows that when they hire on. Pay your dues, and grow your whiskers....everybody knows I'm a MEASTER, and they know where they can kiss me....I've conceded work, or a bid a time or two, with the same result. The junior guy didn't want the weekend, or the grocery deliveries......so i decided they were MEASTERS, too....No respect, these Union truckdrivers, no respect, I tell ya! So, what do I say to the crybabies that envy me? Here ya go! :fingure:
 
Solidarity

If they were around for "decades" , then they have been created by the previous hog board while they were on the bottom. It's the old "I finally got mine after years of being snubbed. Now it's my turn." Very selfish, very childish. This isn't the army, seniority isn't rank. We all pay the same amount dues, at least after two years. If there's a strike, the 30 year man needs the three year man on the picket line with him. Superseniority for stewards is wrong,....and I say that as a steward. The top of the board should be cultivating good Union habits in the bottom of the board,....Solidarity,....being an active member,...looking out for your fellow employee,...Proving that a Union employee is the best employee,...the most professional,.......these are the things the top of the board should be promoting.....through example. Sadly,...in some places, this doesn't happen. Probably why we are in this position,..contract-wise,..that we are in now. But,....if you think Union companies are the only ones with a few selfish employees,....you haven't been around very many non-Union docks. Knee pads are the uniform of the day,...and management promotes a culture of snitches. Some non-union guys resist and try to maintain their dignity,....but many,...in fear for their job,....do not. Come now, Rollin62,...you were/are at Conway. Tell us all about kneepads and snitches.........

I am not bitter. Just practical. I know what the answer for the Local 135 Freight meetings is. I am willing to bet your percentage is the same as mine. The last freight meeting for ABF in Indy before the ballots was issued for this current supplement vote was 6 people. Out of a 66 person Board. Apathy? Complacent? You get to choose the verb, for any one will do. It is all for me & screw the other one below me on the list. Been here 15 years & turned down overtime so someone could get their 2 or 3 days in for medical. Hell, I turn down a lot of overtime anyway. On the other hand yesterday @ 319 we had a 4 hour casual on during our shift (good worker by the way) and the supervisor offered CC time starting @ the top. No one took it, but where is the incentive to go the extra mile when crap like that is offered. When is the last time 90% of your board showed up @ the hall for the monthly freight meeting demanding answers or giving your elected leaders a piece of their mind. No wonder we ended up with a POS contract. When the elected leaders of your Local Teamster hall see a repeated pattern of 10% of you board showing up for the monthly meeting, and they feel no pressure from the members who put them in the seat up at the lectern why in God’s name would they be concerned about what you think? Come to think of it, they would not. I get the feeling the only pressure during contract talks came from cyber space, not from the microphone during your meeting. von
 
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