Holland | Please vote no!!!!

Overboard

TB Lurker
Credits
0
First off I would like to wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. What I am about to say is for anyone that is thinking of voting yes or is undecided.

Guys, please do not give in to YRC. Numbers do not lie. We have done our part. We have gave enough.

I seen a post that someone was going to vote yes for his family. That does not make a lot of sense. Having a job does not help your family when that job does not pay the bills... Having a job does not help your family if you are sick one day and your health and welfare are not paid in for that week and one of your family members are sick and have to go to the doctor... Having a job does not help your family when you work all your life and when it comes time to retire to spend time with your family you cannot because you have no retirement.

Jobs like that are a dime a dozen. We do not need YRC for a job like that.

Please, lets all stand united as one against YRC for the good of ourselves and our families.
Please vote no to preserve what the men before us fought for.
Please do not throw all that away.

We are teamsters. that use to be something to be proud of. We can all be proud teamsters again if we all stand up to YRC.
If that means they shut the doors then so be it. They were going to anyway. At least we will go down with our dignity.

We are not the only ones that will be out of a job...Upper management to lower management will be out of one also. Also there will be plenty of jobs if they do. Those jobs would be a better one then this job will be if we vote yes.
A yes vote would make us the bottom feeders of the trucking industry.

1.4 billion dollars is a lot of money, don't get me wrong. 1.4 billion does not mean as much to a corporation the size of YRC as it does to you and I.

PLEASE VOTE NO!!!!!!!
 
Good post for food for thought. Right now nobody should actually know how they are going to vote since we have not seen the proposal in writing yet. Everything we are hearing up till then is just hear say.
 
Devil's advocate here. Vote no and say company closes. Then how do you support your family. Think you will walk right into another job making a descent wage ,and pay no health insurance premium. Alot of guys at the YRCW compamies wouldn't be able to keep a job at another company because of attitude and work ethic. Just saying. Wait till you hear the final propasal before you decide.
 
Im only posting to the information we have at hand. I think we all agree to wait for the final proposal. Yes I do think we will walk right into another job... YRC and the regionals haul a lot of freight.. That freight has got to go somewhere and again that somewhere will be a better job then the job we will end up with if the information on here is correct and we vote yes... Free insurance only goes so far... I don't know anything about guys attitude or work ethic... None of my business.
 
Devil's advocate here. Vote no and say company closes. Then how do you support your family. Think you will walk right into another job making a descent wage ,and pay no health insurance premium. Alot of guys at the YRCW compamies wouldn't be able to keep a job at another company because of attitude and work ethic. Just saying. Wait till you hear the final propasal before you decide.

Most of us will be able to follow the freight. Will conditions be different, yes. Right now Dayton Freight, the company that will likely get the freight in my area STARTS at 50.9/ mile and 19.60. UPS Freight starts higher and is still in the pension. They top out at 72 cents per mile. I understand the future is a little scary, and most people avoid change like the plague. So does YRC...
 
You are assuming that if it is a NO vote that the company will close, that is what they want you to assume!
Devil's advocate here. Vote no and say company closes. Then how do you support your family. Think you will walk right into another job making a descent wage ,and pay no health insurance premium. Alot of guys at the YRCW compamies wouldn't be able to keep a job at another company because of attitude and work ethic. Just saying. Wait till you hear the final propasal before you decide.
 
If YRC did close, and I don't think it will, all the freight that we were hauling would be picked up by the otherLTL carriers and they would have to hire a lot of drivers to keep up. Don't get so caught up in the idea of having your H&W paid for. Its a nice perk, but if you make a couple dollars more on the hr. which all the top tier LTL co. top out higher than us already, you will be able to afford it. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to lose my job either, but if these proposed concessions go through, we will all be better off at a non - union carrier anyways. So, the way I see it, we either vote these concessions down or start looking for another job anyhow.
 
Try to get on with another company if you have had a workmens comp claim, nobody will hire you. Have you ever talked to other LTL drivers at non union companies or read the post on truckingboards of other LTL companies. There is alot of empty trailers moving up and down the road with non union companies so dont think you will just walk into another ltl job. Most non union companies do not want anything to do with a union driver. READ other post of other companies it not so rosie at those companies either. Just saying be informed before you vote not just what someone has told you
 
Devil's advocate here. Vote no and say company closes. Then how do you support your family. Think you will walk right into another job making a descent wage ,and pay no health insurance premium. Alot of guys at the YRCW compamies wouldn't be able to keep a job at another company because of attitude and work ethic. Just saying. Wait till you hear the final propasal before you decide.
If you have a company filled with a bunch of employees that have bad attitudes and work ethics, then it doesn't matter how much you give back you are still going to fail!!!
 
Great job Overboard

Mr. Welch has balls the size of Texas or just stupid?
He thinks he can cover up his short comings by putting the survival of YRCW on the employees. Don't get me wrong, he set up himself and his top five, just look at the 2012 4th quarter report. He doubled his pay, 4wks vacation, 150% of his pay when he leaves and pension. Mr. Welch came here to save us after Zollar. But the job was over his head, so blame it on the employees! I cannot express how I felt when I heard him talk about the shared sacrifice.. Of course the sacrifice fell on us not management. If we let go on, we will just be saying yes to the New Business Model screw the employees as long as you can the just walk away with a boat load of money and look for the next victim.
There are still some good companies out there to screw over.

VOTE NO!!!!

P.S
Have you noticed you cannot contact this Moron Welch with a e-mail?
 
Try to get on with another company if you have had a workmens comp claim, nobody will hire you.
There is probably less than 5% of the employees who have had a workers comp claim. The other 95% would be absorbed into the other carriers eventually. Personally, I don't think that they will shut down anyway if you vote no. Never forget........those pukes at the top don't want their gravy train to jump the tracks either.

Just sayin'.:coffee1:
 
Great post and you are correct. I voted no and now i wear a no tag on my jacket at the terminal. Lets all start wearing a no tag at the terminals to show the company how many of us are voting no
 
You are right having our insurance paid is a nice perk, so is seniority. try starting over at the bottom of some non-union board where nothing is gauranteed. Also YRC hauls about 24% of all LTL. One company is not going to get all of our freight. It will probably be split up between the larger 8 carriers. How many new drivers does a carrier have to hire to cover a 3% addition to freight volume???
 
Please post a legal document stating yrc will shut the door if there is a no vote. There isn't. So all these investment firms are going to risk a no vote?

Devil's advocate here. Vote no and say company closes. Then how do you support your family. Think you will walk right into another job making a descent wage ,and pay no health insurance premium. Alot of guys at the YRCW compamies wouldn't be able to keep a job at another company because of attitude and work ethic. Just saying. Wait till you hear the final propasal before you decide.
 
Try to get on with another company if you have had a workmens comp claim, nobody will hire you. Have you ever talked to other LTL drivers at non union companies or read the post on truckingboards of other LTL companies. There is alot of empty trailers moving up and down the road with non union companies so dont think you will just walk into another ltl job. Most non union companies do not want anything to do with a union driver. READ other post of other companies it not so rosie at those companies either. Just saying be informed before you vote not just what someone has told you

YRCF bill count has hovered around 45,000 bills per DAY, for the past 3 -4 years.
Now, tell us again, how are the other LTL companies going to prepare for that influx of freight?
 
Top