TForce | The vote next weekend will be a strike vote!

At least we get to itemize our dues on our 1040 every year. That is if you itemize. And I do. Other than that I haven't seen much benefit from being a Teamster with the current leadership. And I'm amazed at the blind loyalty I see for the national and local teamster leadership at my terminal by some. What does it matter when barely anyone votes for the TA's put before them.
 
The Union/Local has been good for me. I have enforced my rights and my local has backed us up. Hoffa/Hall on the other hand....................:clappy:
I wish I could say they same for my local... they are week, and are just there to collect a check! I can't wait to vote their a$$3s out!
 
I think I've said before there are lot of good Caring business agents. Some strong locals across the nation. But they can only do so much. If we was being totally unreasonable I could see it. But they haven't even tried to work on our behalf.

DLH and $105.00 retirement and sub-contractors is not working on our behalf.
 
Thats correct Skeeter. Hoffa is in bed with Wall Street. Total opposite from his father. I guess Hoffa saw what happens when you run with the wrong crowd.
 
Thats correct Skeeter. Hoffa is in bed with Wall Street. Total opposite from his father. I guess Hoffa saw what happens when you run with the wrong crowd.

I think what it is in a nut shell is he is not the the man his father was, when it comes to fighting for the working class.
 
That's a given. The man is not self-made. He had the benefit of his fathers wealth and connections. I think he saw what happened to his father and chose another path, even though he enjoys the same trappings of the IBT.
 
So Teamsta II, back to your original post. You state that next week will be a ratification vote AND a strike vote. How do you know this and who is your source? And how can this even possibly be accomplished at places like HRS where there will be three separate meeting times?
 
A no vote only gives the the teamsters authority to call a strike if negotiations break down.. it does not mean we will be on strike! You need to ask your ba about this. You have been misinformed.. if he tells you that if you vote no that you will definitely be on strike I would report him to the international!

No,.......You report them to the National Labor Relations Board,.........NLRB,.................................
 
So Teamsta II, back to your original post. You state that next week will be a ratification vote AND a strike vote. How do you know this and who is your source? And how can this even possibly be accomplished at places like HRS where there will be three separate meeting times?

Come now, I wouldn't have a source for long if I gave it up. I have no clue how things work at 776.
 
Amazing! I've got people on here telling me the third vote is the strike vote (which I understand is the correct answer) and you saying from your original post that we will be taking a ratification and strike vote.

That tells me the IBT plans to hold the second vote and if it fails to hold the strike vote immediately thereafter. NO?
 
Amazing! I've got people on here telling me the third vote is the strike vote (which I understand is the correct answer) and you saying from your original post that we will be taking a ratification and strike vote.

That tells me the IBT plans to hold the second vote and if it fails to hold the strike vote immediately thereafter. NO?

What did you say yesterday??? An amended contract? What if there are no changes? I don't know anything about that, but it certainly could be?
 
I for one and I am only one....... is going to vote no. no matter what the offer is. I like to read and find out what I am fighting for. why should my family make a five year decision in a matter of hours? if it means strike so be it. stand and fight or lay down and fail. stop belly aching and cast a vote express your right. if the offer is fair take it. if not reject it and move on. but this is my post I WILL NOT VOTE YES ON SOMETHING I CANT READ. so choose your fate please don't take down my family......... santa.
 
So Teamsta II, back to your original post. You state that next week will be a ratification vote AND a strike vote. How do you know this and who is your source? And how can this even possibly be accomplished at places like HRS where there will be three separate meeting times?
You can tell them you heard it on TB from me.
The 3rd vote is a strike vote not the second.

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That is a false statement.
 
The IBT is a private organization. It has minimal guide lines under law. The election of officers is regulated by these laws. Ratification of contracts are done through the IBT constitution and the power of the General President.

I have stated this earlier. You can't have a successful strike when you can't even get the majority of members to vote. There is plenty of chest beating done on the social media, but that does not translate into a successful strike action. From what I have seen from my experience at this company, the members couldn't organize or hold down a successful strike. Most of this is nothing more than postulating, in hopes that UPS may think that there is chance of a strike. Therefor more favorable negotiations,
I have a news flash for all my inexperienced union member's. UPS has been dealing with contracts for decades. This isn't their first go around, which is the case for most of us. They will not blink. They have more money, better lawyers and the knowledge that the members aren't unified with the IBT on anything. Half the members couldn't be bothered to mail a pre-paid letter to vote. Even more won't show up to the meetings and vote. Even if 2/3 vote no at the meetings vote, UPS will laugh at the prospect of a strike. Since if you can't get members to spend a few hours on their weekend to go vote on the contract, how the hell will you be able to hold a strike line that could last weeks or more?
Now,if you get 8000 members to show up and vote and vote no, that might shake the foundation at UPS. That is up to all of you. This is your collective chance at success or failure. I know that we will have at the very least 75% show up at our meetings.
 
That last vote was all 'postulating' I guess? UPS had all those things you mentioned on the last vote and they were still defeated! You are correct on one thing, UPS definitely has better lawyers. I think Hoffa got his JD out of a Cracker Jack box, not the University of Michigan Law School.
 
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That last vote was all 'postulating' I guess? You are correct on one thing, UPS definitely has better lawyers. I think Hoffa got his JD out of a Cracker Jack box, not the University of Michigan Law School.

It was more a message to Hoffa/Hall than to UPS. That message was received loud and clear by Hoffa/Hall. UPS on the other hand isn't going to budge, because they see weakness in the membership. Sure we have some strong members and some pockets of resilient, but don't let that lead you to the idea that you can win much of anything with some limited strength. Whatever extra is offered in the contract this weekend will be a victory. However small it might seem.
 
We're in agreement on that. Sounds like you might have some idea what those small wins will be? Care to share?
 
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