Freight brokers con artists

dan55

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I'm a newbie. I read on a forum recently that most loads really pay $5-6 per mile and that freight brokers try to sucker people to carry the loads for way cheaper like $1.50 per mile. Is this true? Do freight brokers really keep such a large amount of the actual money to themselves? And if this is the case can you just get the load directly from shippers eliminating the broker?
 
20 per mile? How do freight brokers get away with this? And why would they pay the truckers do little if the load pays so much?
 
20 per mile? How do freight brokers get away with this? And why would they pay the truckers do little if the load pays so much?

Don't blame the broker, blame the driver for taking the load. And no most loads don't pay $20 a mile. Most pay $3-$4 a mile.
 
I'm a newbie. I read on a forum recently that most loads really pay $5-6 per mile and that freight brokers try to sucker people to carry the loads for way cheaper like $1.50 per mile. Is this true? Do freight brokers really keep such a large amount of the actual money to themselves? And if this is the case can you just get the load directly from shippers eliminating the broker?

More power to the broker imo. If the driver doesn't want to get his load directly, and chooses to use a broker, than the driver is slitting his own throat.

I don't see where the broker is conning anyone.
 
If the driver can get the load direct from the shipper without the use of a broker, why wouldn't he/she?

You are paying a broker for their service, just as the shipper is paying the driver for theirs.

We should all have the right to pay/earn whatever the market determines the work is worth.
 
Brokers:" the truckers are a bunch of con artists"
Truckers:
"the brokers are a bunch of con artists"

I doubt most freight pays 3 or 4 bucks a mile. Brokers cold call all day to shippers cutting each other's rates. Hauling direct from a shipper is risky. You might hit the jackpot but more likely you will get 45 day pay 60 day pay or no pay.
 
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I doubt that there are many shippers paying even $3-$4 per mile to have their freight shipped truckload. They will pay what the market demands. Way back when I had my own truck and had a few years experience I was in Youngstown, OH in balls cold winter with the only truck running. Back then it was not only hard to get one started it was hard to keep them running once they were started. I got a good paying load headed south. I don't remember the exact price but it was double the usual rate.
 
Now I am far from an expert on this topic.
I only got my information from the few that I have known who have their own trucks.

Although just watch that reality TV show called Shipping Wars,that show may be for entertainment.
However there is a lot of truth to it, since trucking has become cut-throat,since deregulation,back in the mid 80's.

Shippers want to get their stuff moved for the less they can.
The brokers have the attitude,they'll get the shippers to pay as much as possible.
Then the broker will seek out truckers that will haul for next to nothing.
While they get the largest slice of the pie they can.

If your an owner operator,the trouble with dealing directly with shippers,theirs is a trust issue.
Unless they know they can trust an unknown trucker to haul their goods,they'd rather deal with a known broker.
 
companies like RR Donnelly use a broker like CH Robinson or Schneider to do all their logistics.
Very few independants can avoid brokers
The biggest problem with brokers is not the original rate.
It's getting paid for detention,wrong address,wrong appointment,wrong order, pallet exchange issues,lumper issues,damages or showing up to a customer and the load is gone.
or......"load it and go...they are waiting for it"
 
companies like RR Donnelly use a broker like CH Robinson or Schneider to do all their logistics.
Very few independants can avoid brokers
The biggest problem with brokers is not the original rate.
It's getting paid for detention,wrong address,wrong appointment,wrong order, pallet exchange issues,lumper issues,damages or showing up to a customer and the load is gone.
or......"load it and go...they are waiting for it"
Have to experience it to really appreciate it.
 
An old co-worker went as an o/o for Landstar. He would get an offer in the am. As the day went on,the rate got better for the same load.
He is no longer with Landstar
 
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