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So I'm new to this forum and I've spent some time reading some of the previous posts and comments but I don't really see anyone talking about what is in my opinion the biggest issue, the contract. These guys at my barn are walking around with their chests all puffed out because we're going to a vote but even if voted yes, that's only half the battle and all they have realistically done is guarantee a freeze on our financial assets for who knows how long (golf clap) The union however can NOT guarantee ANYTHING and Fedex does NOT have to agree to a contract (please see the NLRB site if you think they do) I mean really, why would they? They already offer a competitive package and if you think the union will just waltz on in and get, get, get without Fedex taking anything away, I think you're mistaken. Not to mention, the drivers have no bargaining power, There's 3 terminals thus far, whoopty damn doo. You'd need 30 terminals to even make a small dent, sure Fedex might take a hit but if you think that they won't do everything and anything possible (including losing money) to keep the union out, you're wrong. They will force you to strike, not me because the fines the union will impose on me for crossing won't be more than I'll make the 14 hours a day I'll get while the angry birds are on the picket line, Shoot I'll fill out so many logs you'd think I was a road driver. They'll pull guys from all over the country much like they do when there's a severe weather event to help out and 1 by 1 guys will start to cross because the bills are piling up and they have mouths to feed. Good news is after it's all said and done those union carriers will still be there for those to apply at.
 
Reeve_gaydee said:
So I'm new to this forum and I've spent some time reading some of the previous posts and comments but I don't really see anyone talking about what is in my opinion the biggest issue, the contract. These guys at my barn are walking around with their chests all puffed out because we're going to a vote but even if voted yes, that's only half the battle and all they have realistically done is guarantee a freeze on our financial assets for who knows how long (golf clap) The union however can NOT guarantee ANYTHING and Fedex does NOT have to agree to a contract (please see the NLRB site if you think they do) I mean really, why would they? They already offer a competitive package and if you think the union will just waltz on in and get, get, get without Fedex taking anything away, I think you're mistaken. Not to mention, the drivers have no bargaining power, There's 3 terminals thus far, whoopty damn doo. You'd need 30 terminals to even make a small dent, sure Fedex might take a hit but if you think that they won't do everything and anything possible (including losing money) to keep the union out, you're wrong. They will force you to strike, not me because the fines the union will impose on me for crossing won't be more than I'll make the 14 hours a day I'll get while the angry birds are on the picket line, Shoot I'll fill out so many logs you'd think I was a road driver. They'll pull guys from all over the country much like they do when there's a severe weather event to help out and 1 by 1 guys will start to cross because the bills are piling up and they have mouths to feed. Good news is after it's all said and done those union carriers will still be there for those to apply at.
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You start out saying you're looking for info, then procede to tell us how it's gonna be.
Well, this is bigger than you and you assume there will be volunteers to cover the 3 or 30, as you say. I doubt that. I doubt the shareholders would sit quitely while the Co. Does not negotiate in good faith. I also doubt you really read much of anytthing, therefore I have little time to waste giving you corrected information.
 
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Statements like the O/P of this thread actually stregthen my resolve to see this through to the logical conclusion. The recent "concessions" have little or no cost and should never have been in place anyway.
 
SwampRatt said:
Statements like the O/P of this thread actually stregthen my resolve to see this through to the logical conclusion. The recent "concessions" have little or no cost and should never have been in place anyway.
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Agree that the two safety policies went overboard, but the company listened and changed them due to valid concerns. Why pay someone to negotiate when the company is willing to do so?
 
SwampRatt said:
You start out saying you're looking for info, then procede to tell us how it's gonna be.
Well, this is bigger than you and assume there will be volunteers to cover the 3 or 30, as you say. I doubt that. I doubt the shareholders would sit quitely while the Co. Does not negotiate in good faith. I also doubt you really read much of anytthing, therefore I have little time to waste giving you corrected information.
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Did you read what I wrote, or did you only see what I wrote through your union goggles? I didn't start out by asking for info, I'm wondering why nobody is considering another possibility other than the union coming in and getting everything to be perfect at FedEx. Your opinion is just that, an opinion, and mine is just that as well. You keep fighting your flight and let the chips fall where they may, I just think there is a realistic possibility that the union doesn't come in and fix everything just like that.
 
I can't wait till they go to one board! That's going to be fun!:19:
 
Reeve_gaydee said:
Did you read what I wrote, or did you only see what I wrote through your union goggles? I didn't start out by asking for info, I'm wondering why nobody is considering another possibility other than the union coming in and getting everything to be perfect at FedEx. Your opinion is just that, an opinion, and mine is just that as well. You keep fighting your flight and let the chips fall where they may, I just think there is a realistic possibility that the union doesn't come in and fix everything just like that.
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I think you have a really good point , keep posting brother.
 
If I may say my brothers, Rome wasn't built in a day and Hr with fedex is the biggest joke since...............well I don't know when but you get picture. Hooty out.
 
All these trolls coming out of the woodwork are here for one purpose. Division.

Stay united and don't feed the trolls. You notice that they're only agreeing with each other and the same ones liking posts? Coincidence?
 
Reeve_gaydee said:
So I'm new to this forum and I've spent some time reading some of the previous posts and comments but I don't really see anyone talking about what is in my opinion the biggest issue, the contract. These guys at my barn are walking around with their chests all puffed out because we're going to a vote but even if voted yes, that's only half the battle and all they have realistically done is guarantee a freeze on our financial assets for who knows how long (golf clap) The union however can NOT guarantee ANYTHING and Fedex does NOT have to agree to a contract (please see the NLRB site if you think they do) I mean really, why would they? They already offer a competitive package and if you think the union will just waltz on in and get, get, get without Fedex taking anything away, I think you're mistaken. Not to mention, the drivers have no bargaining power, There's 3 terminals thus far, whoopty damn doo. You'd need 30 terminals to even make a small dent, sure Fedex might take a hit but if you think that they won't do everything and anything possible (including losing money) to keep the union out, you're wrong. They will force you to strike, not me because the fines the union will impose on me for crossing won't be more than I'll make the 14 hours a day I'll get while the angry birds are on the picket line, Shoot I'll fill out so many logs you'd think I was a road driver. They'll pull guys from all over the country much like they do when there's a severe weather event to help out and 1 by 1 guys will start to cross because the bills are piling up and they have mouths to feed. Good news is after it's all said and done those union carriers will still be there for those to apply at.
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Wow this post reads like a transcipt from a fedex anti union propaganda film.
 
Reeve_gaydee said:
So I'm new to this forum and I've spent some time reading some of the previous posts and comments but I don't really see anyone talking about what is in my opinion the biggest issue, the contract. These guys at my barn are walking around with their chests all puffed out because we're going to a vote but even if voted yes, that's only half the battle and all they have realistically done is guarantee a freeze on our financial assets for who knows how long (golf clap) The union however can NOT guarantee ANYTHING and Fedex does NOT have to agree to a contract (please see the NLRB site if you think they do) I mean really, why would they? They already offer a competitive package and if you think the union will just waltz on in and get, get, get without Fedex taking anything away, I think you're mistaken. Not to mention, the drivers have no bargaining power, There's 3 terminals thus far, whoopty damn doo. You'd need 30 terminals to even make a small dent, sure Fedex might take a hit but if you think that they won't do everything and anything possible (including losing money) to keep the union out, you're wrong. They will force you to strike, not me because the fines the union will impose on me for crossing won't be more than I'll make the 14 hours a day I'll get while the angry birds are on the picket line, Shoot I'll fill out so many logs you'd think I was a road driver. They'll pull guys from all over the country much like they do when there's a severe weather event to help out and 1 by 1 guys will start to cross because the bills are piling up and they have mouths to feed. Good news is after it's all said and done those union carriers will still be there for those to apply at.
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I really wouldn't worry about the fines for crossing a picket line. I'd be a little more concerned about facing your coworkers
 
yrc-atm said:
I really wouldn't worry about the fines for crossing a picket line. I'd be a little more concerned about facing your coworkers
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And this is supposed to mean what? Are you implying someone that needs to feed his or her family and crosses a picket line would be harmed in some way? Mentally or physically?
 
Colopurple said:
And this is supposed to mean what? Are you implying someone that needs to feed his or her family and crosses a picket line would be harmed in some way? Mentally or physically?
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I'm just saying the fines wouldnt be my main concern.
 
Reeve_gaydee said:
Did you read what I wrote, or did you only see what I wrote through your union goggles? I didn't start out by asking for info, I'm wondering why nobody is considering another possibility other than the union coming in and getting everything to be perfect at FedEx. Your opinion is just that, an opinion, and mine is just that as well. You keep fighting your flight and let the chips fall where they may, I just think there is a realistic possibility that the union doesn't come in and fix everything just like that.
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Couple things, You said you'd been reading posts. People generally read post for what reason? INFORMATION. Next, you say noone seems to talking much about "the contract". That will come in time. Patience grasshopper, things take time. Meanwhile, continue your reading, begining Here (click here). This is where we have been discussing "what is main reason to vote in a union at FedEx Freight ?"

Then you go on to say " Not to mention, the drivers have no bargaining power, There's 3 terminals thus far, whoopty damn doo. " Then you went further with fear inspired venom that showed your true stripes. You've got us on strike and have yourself filling out logs working 14 hour days. Settle down just a bit, and try to cool your attitude. We just want to negotiate the terms of the service we provide.

Oh, and the funny part about me seeing things through union goggles! :LMAO: Why is that so funny? Because every thing I've posted is coming from a once staunch anti-union guy. I always saw the value of the union in keeping things honest for us non-union carriers, but like many (most here) I didn't think we needed it. Not HERE! But guess what, FedEx changed all that for many (most) of us, little by little. Pushing numbers, reducing compensation levels, neglecting the customers, and finally treating professionals like entry level apprentices who should feel luck to be here for training. FedEx changed the place we work into something unrecognizable. FedEx Changed "US", I'm sad to say.

As for you, read some, learn some, vote no, cross picket lines, whatever you want to do. You have that right, and I'll respect it. But I'll try not to waste any more of my time debating nonsense. :smilie93C_peelout:
 
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