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Redracer3136 said:
Nope, 93% of companies nationally remaining non-union speaks for itself, I just repeat it.
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But your statement was suggesting that companies wont do business with union companies. You were suggesting that if fedex goes union they will lose customers. That is an absolute crock.
 
Getoverit said:
What position do you hold in all this, what is your reason for always taking the company's side? What do you Stand to gain or lose? Just curious?
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When have I taken the companies side? I understand that you aren't capable of engaging in rational conversation, I'm simply pointing out what I see as fallacy in the argument. Playing "devils advocate" if you will. As far as what I have to gain or lose, I guess the same as you.
 
SwampRatt said:
I agree 100% with your last sentence. I'm not speaking of today's bargaining position. I'm speaking of a potential group, large enough have significant impact.

In my car analogy, if a group of current customers organized to negotiate, they would have an advantage. Especially since this group is relied upon for dependable ongoing consistent profit. One guy walking is one thing. the whole base, is quite another. Would that dealer give up 2-3% to maintain a strong market position? I think Yes.

I never said to remove the strike option. Neither side wants it, therefore it is highly unlikely to be used, much like a nuclear option. There to keep both sides reasonable. As far as replacing line haul with purchase, if a strike did happen? Possible? Yes. Cost effective, efficient, and reliable? NO. Same goes for the city operation, but much more difficult to replace and train. There is no P/T available on the scale required to replace the current city drivers. FedEx cares deeply about Cost effective, but especially, efficient and reliable. Therein lies their achilles heel.
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To some extent I agree with you, and I've lost track of who said what. However on several occasions on this board people have said that "union busters" have brought up strikes as a possibility, and many on here said that won't happen thats the only big stick you have. The problem with your current situation is lack of numbers, which I think you realize. With so few on board it would be easy to replace terminals manpower in the event of a strike. And you can read into it what you want , but I say you are not going to get the numbers. I'm not rooting against you I just call it the way I see it.
 
yrc-atm said:
But your statement was suggesting that companies wont do business with union companies. You were suggesting that if fedex goes union they will lose customers. That is an absolute crock.
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My statement suggested nothing of the kind, that's just the way you interpreted the statement.
I was merrily suggesting the FACT that since 93% of companies nationally are non-union, they would probably side with the company, FedEx, when it comes to organizing, not the drivers/employees.
 
Redracer3136 said:
My statement suggested nothing of the kind, that's just the way you interpreted the statement.
I was merrily suggesting the FACT that since 93% of companies nationally are non-union, they would probably side with the company, FedEx, when it comes to organizing, not the drivers/employees.
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You said customers. Now you want to backtrack. Customers dont take sides.
 
yrc-atm said:
You said customers. Now you want to backtrack. Customers dont take sides.
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Splitting hairs aren't you?
Companies/customers, what's the difference? 93% nationally are non-union and will probably still side with FedEx.
Customers take sides all the time, they just don't make it public.
 
yrc-atm said:
But your statement was suggesting that companies wont do business with union companies. You were suggesting that if fedex goes union they will lose customers. That is an absolute crock.
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Redracer3136 said:
There are various ways for one customer/company to show support for another.
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Like the support they showed when you guys were hauling freight for damn near free to put YRC under! Sure blows that theory all to hell!
 
Getoverit said:
Like the support they showed when you guys were hauling freight for damn near free to put YRC under! Sure blows that theory all to hell!
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Redracer3136 said:
You're welcome, figured I'd take a page outta your book. (-:
One way would be to invest in the company through purchasing stocks. One would want another company to succeed because they have a vested interest, thus taking a side.
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The more you shovel that crap the deeper a hole you keep digging! Funny stuff there man!
 
Redracer3136 said:
You're welcome, figured I'd take a page outta your book. (-:
One way would be to invest in the company through purchasing stocks. One would want another company to succeed because they have a vested interest, thus taking a side.
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I will let you sit in your painted in corner now.
 
Getoverit said:
Like the support they showed when you guys were hauling freight for damn near free to put YRC under! Sure blows that theory all to hell!
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I'd say it worked, it's just a matter of time...the writing is on the wall.
When a company has no new investors and the banks refuse to loan them money, in YRC's case, the only option they have left is to issue equity, which negatively influences the stock price and is usually seen as a move of last resort.
That's exactly where you are now! When YRC recently issued equity, there stock went from pennies to about $26 a share...now they're down to $15 and steadily dropping!
Again, it's just a matter of time.

BTW, looks like you'll be taking on more PT's in the future in hopes of keeping the doors open just a little bit longer.

http://www.bizjournals.com/kansasci...d-use-purchased-transportation.html?ana=yahoo
 
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