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At the terminal I work at we have two men that refused to pay union dues,they also are wearing teamsters patch on there new uniforms,,,wtf
 
They must pay a "service" fee,....which, under the Beck Laws (Beck vs. Communication Workers of America),......removes that portion of dues determined by the yearly LM-2's of each local,....that may go toward anything that doesn't maintain the operating structure of that Local. Usually, a Fair-Share payer pays about 90% of Union dues. There is a push on by many right-wing business groups,....notably the Business Roundtable,....to have Union companies "hire" anti-Union people,....so that those people can work within to destroy the Union by lawsuits about how they are represented,....or lack thereof. Unions are the only organization in the world that doesn't get to pick it's own members. The companies do that for us.......And,.....sometimes they pick us some real doozies,......on purpose, I think.......
 
My understanding is that in RTW states one does not have to pay a penny in union dues. In non-RTW states all must pay that fair share as it is called in public contracts or objector's fee as it is called in private sector contracts (state terminology vs NLRB terminology). Our contract mandates that the horseheads be affixed to any uniform the company acquires for us and requires us to wear...dues payer or not. But remember an old adage..."You Get What You Pay For"...and I always add my two cents..."If You Are Lucky".
 
My understanding is that in RTW states one does not have to pay a penny in union dues. In non-RTW states all must pay that fair share as it is called in public contracts or objector's fee as it is called in private sector contracts (state terminology vs NLRB terminology). Our contract mandates that the horseheads be affixed to any uniform the company acquires for us and requires us to wear...dues payer or not. But remember an old adage..."You Get What You Pay For"...and I always add my two cents..."If You Are Lucky".
So if a dude works in a union barn in a RTW state but refuses to pay union dues can the union also refuse to "afford" any help to that driver ? Example file grieviences or follow the same procedures as dues paying members...In prison they have unwritten rules and those who dont play by those rules get "yard justice"..I'm sure there can be some "yard justice" served to those rats that want union perks without paying for it..
 
So if a dude works in a union barn in a RTW state but refuses to pay union dues can the union also refuse to "afford" any help to that driver ? Example file grieviences or follow the same procedures as dues paying members...In prison they have unwritten rules and those who dont play by those rules get "yard justice"..I'm sure there can be some "yard justice" served to those rats that want union perks without paying for it..
Well...the Union cannot refuse to represent the person (wink, wink) but they can certainly adjust their approach to a problem. (wink, wink). And when said grievance does finally make it before a panel there might be a secret language that could identify said person as a non union "member" and seeing as it is teamsters and their pals at the table said grievant might hear the sound of a toilet flushing as they receive receive their decision. But they got the representation they paid for.
 
Only problem with that is what happens to his grievance may affect a union member next time, if it has been lost once, the company can and will take advantage of it the next time it comes up. The union has to fight to win each grievance the same.
In theory that would be correct but in reality those panels have the latitude to do whatever they want to whether it's right or wrong. And if it was a case that affected many the outcome could be different than if it was one of those that only affected one individual.
 
The company should not have to pay their union health, welfare, and pension. Call the hall, take the cheese away from these rats and physically take care of the situation. No dues, no nuttin!
 
I agree. We have two at our barn that don't pay dues but receive that same benefits. Only difference is they can't vote
 
Well...the Union cannot refuse to represent the person (wink, wink) but they can certainly adjust their approach to a problem. (wink, wink). And when said grievance does finally make it before a panel there might be a secret language that could identify said person as a non union "member" and seeing as it is teamsters and their pals at the table said grievant might hear the sound of a toilet flushing as they receive receive their decision. But they got the representation they paid for.
Yep......What he said. But as I think we have "closed shop" language in our contract, even in RTW states, they have to pay the service fee. I'm not exactly sure, though. Anyone in the Southern RTW(for less) states can enlighten us on how dues are collected? I've been told that in the smaller Locals in the RTW south, even the smallest grievances are sent to arbitration,.......in an attempt to...."break the bank" at that Local. Once again guys.......The Pogo Principle in action....."We Have Met The Enemy, And He Is Us."
 
I agree. We have two at our barn that don't pay dues but receive that same benefits. Only difference is they can't vote
In the freight and construction industries in the RTW states membership remains high. We are not freeloading turds like they are at other shops. i e Norther Tool in the Carolinas.
But as I think we have "closed shop" language in our contract, even in RTW states, they have to pay the service fee.
We do have that "closed shop" language but we also have language something to the tune of, "Except where prohibited by law", and another clause known as "Saving(s) and Separability" which saves the rest of the contract should one portion of it be deemed illegal in any given area.
 
There has to be something in the bylaws saying that these non paying dues people can't wear teamsters patches on there uniform or any other if ur not a union members, this really makes me angry, it's a disgrace to the union and all the hard working brothers and sisters.
 
I think you guys need to throw those two clowns a trailer party over by the corner dock door. Make it a selective invite only. Those POS need to get a little cake served up cold.
 
Many of the responses here presuppose company support of Unions. It is companies that are lobbing for these RTW laws through ALEC and other conservative PACs. And ANY wedge that can be driven into the workforce is a positive to them. papajohn is also correct the company with cite precedence at hearings on similar violations.
 
In OK we are a RTW state, I am our shop steward at Sysco, I do know that the guys that don't join the union pay nothing, I wish they had to but they don't, we have no language in our contract saying different.
 
RTW or not some of the biggest ratbags on the planet are in our membership.At the terminal I used to work at I thought the company motto was"Every man for himself women and children last"
YOUR THE MAN,YEARS BACK WHEN THINGS WERE BAD IN THE 80'S WE HAD TOP RATS THAT WOULD WORK THERE 6 AND 7TH DAY JUST SO ANY OF THE BOTTOM MEN COULD NOT GET 3 DAYS IN TO AT LEAST GET THERE FULL WK.OF H&W PAID.YOU ARE BEING TO KIND CALLING THEM RATBAGS.IT WAS SWEET WHEN THEY SHUT THE DOORS AND THEY WERE OUT ON THE STREET.
A TEAMSTER FOREVER
 
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