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Yellow | Here is another video. Watch the idiots hammer down in a blizzard.

This is the continental divide between Laramie and Cheyenne. I'm not sure of exactly where this is, but they were on Sherman Pass somewhere. Appears that they were descending a downgrade way to fast for conditions and their speed and lack of traction for braking sealed their fates. Visibility was bad, but not white-out as I first thought. It is mind-numbing to watch this happen over and over again. It is a miracle no one was killed, with the speeds involved. There must be millions of dollars in damage. Unbelievable! The only one able to stop in time was the R&L driver, with a set of doubles, no less!
 
hangbelly said:
This is the continental divide between Laramie and Cheyenne. I'm not sure of exactly where this is, but they were on Sherman Pass somewhere. Appears that they were descending a downgrade way to fast for conditions and their speed and lack of traction for braking sealed their fates. Visibility was bad, but not white-out as I first thought. It is mind-numbing to watch this happen over and over again. It is a miracle no one was killed, with the speeds involved. There must be millions of dollars in damage. Unbelievable! The only one able to stop in time was the R&L driver, with a set of doubles, no less!
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Walmart also got stopped. I believe that the non-use of CB's (I admit I am guilty also) probably had a lot to do with it.

On our trucks,it is impossible to get a decent ground on the outside posts.
 
Hoosierky said:
Walmart also got stopped. I believe that the non-use of CB's (I admit I am guilty also) probably had a lot to do with it.

On our trucks,it is impossible to get a decent ground on the outside posts.
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It really doesn't seem to matter anymore. No one is monitoring the cbs anyway. When it worked well, everyone was running cb's and spoke english. I don't know if those guys were on the phone with their girlfriends back in Kyzerkistan or what, but they sure weren't paying attention. They looked like a herd of 80,000lb lemmings following each other off a cliff. The important thing to take away from this is that this is going to happen more often now, and we need to watch and learn what emergency actions we need to take if ever caught in one of these. First off, I believe that you should NOT get out of the truck unless there is an immediate danger of being further pinned in or a fire. If you are standing outside on the ground even a car can kill you. If you do get out-Run from oncoming traffic! I cringe every time I see a video of people standing beside their cars with their hands in their pockets on an icy road watching other cars sliding towards them. Just some thoughts. I'd like to hear others opinions.
 
hangbelly said:
It really doesn't seem to matter anymore. No one is monitoring the cbs anyway. When it worked well, everyone was running cb's and spoke english.
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I don't know about that "spoke English" part though. Back in the 1970's and 80's when CB was big, I can remember some good-old-boys from south of the Mason-Dixon line talking on the CB up here north of that line and none of us had a clue what language they were speaking. :lmao: :hide:
 
Hoosierky said:
Walmart also got stopped. I believe that the non-use of CB's (I admit I am guilty also) probably had a lot to do with it.

On our trucks,it is impossible to get a decent ground on the outside posts.
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I would say you are correct, but also how about too fast for conditions? Inexperienced on snow? Trying to keep up with the rest of the pack? Sometimes better off " staying on the porch" !!
 
Triplex said:
I don't know about that "spoke English" part though. Back in the 1970's and 80's when CB was big, I can remember some good-old-boys from south of the Mason-Dixon line talking on the CB up here north of that line and none of us had a clue what language they were speaking. :lmao: :hide:
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Not much has changed down South......
 
Cab Lizzard said:
Jimmy G give us an update when you pass the point of carnage ? They got it cleaned up yet ?
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WHP had a picture that Albag got off Facebook. Showed was eastbound, just before Harriman Rd. (I saw a moose trotting there once, by the way). I normally go by there westbound Monday evening. My week's off to such a start, it may be 3am Tues morning? Wyoroad.com shows no advisories now. Will be in the forties Monday. I'll look, let ya know.
Going east, you go by Buford, then there is a long downhill and around a curve past the Ames monument then you fly over that hill, get a really good jump (on dry road) to fly down/ up to Harriman on the other side. Then down to Remount. Someone didn't get the memo about ice in wyoming...FedEx and Amerifreight downright fly past me. But those Transams and England's were looking faster on ice than they go on dry roads...
 
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hangbelly said:
This is the continental divide between Laramie and Cheyenne. I'm not sure of exactly where this is, but they were on Sherman Pass somewhere. Appears that they were descending a downgrade way to fast for conditions and their speed and lack of traction for braking sealed their fates. Visibility was bad, but not white-out as I first thought. It is mind-numbing to watch this happen over and over again. It is a miracle no one was killed, with the speeds involved. There must be millions of dollars in damage. Unbelievable! The only one able to stop in time was the R&L driver, with a set of doubles, no less!
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I agree but it all depends on the driver.I saw R&Lwith a set in the fast lane on 285 about a month ago when it was posted no trucks in two left lanes.One just dropped his rear box on 675 less than 3 miles from his terminal.
 
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hangbelly said:
It really doesn't seem to matter anymore. No one is monitoring the cbs anyway. When it worked well, everyone was running cb's and spoke english. I don't know if those guys were on the phone with their girlfriends back in Kyzerkistan or what, but they sure weren't paying attention. They looked like a herd of 80,000lb lemmings following each other off a cliff. The important thing to take away from this is that this is going to happen more often now, and we need to watch and learn what emergency actions we need to take if ever caught in one of these. First off, I believe that you should NOT get out of the truck unless there is an immediate danger of being further pinned in or a fire. If you are standing outside on the ground even a car can kill you. If you do get out-Run from oncoming traffic! I cringe every time I see a video of people standing beside their cars with their hands in their pockets on an icy road watching other cars sliding towards them. Just some thoughts. I'd like to hear others opinions.
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If I were in that suv I would have hauled butt into that field as far as I could go.
 
Hoosierky said:
It all depends on WHERE to pull over. If you stop on a shoulder, you are in a position to be in /or cause another chain reaction accident.
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Yeah, It's really a flip of the coin on what to do. It's hard to get stopped and keep 2 trailers straight on a shoulder on a steep enough icy downgrade and both stay out of the travel lane and avoid sliding down a frozen ice covered soft shoulder to the borrow pit and risk rolling over. Been there done that. If you know you are not going to get stopped in time, and your speed has been reduced enough, I think you are better off to get off the brakes and just drive into the borrow pit at an angle to keep from hopefully upsetting and leave the rest in God's hands. Sliding tires have no directional control, rolling tires do. At least you have avoided hitting someone else, and may get lucky and just need a tow back up onto the freeway later. You are also away from vehicles coming up behind you. It's a lousy choice, but probably your best option. The risk of a fire in these kinds of wrecks is significant, due to batteries shorting out and igniting fuel. The further away from all that, the better. Just my 2 cents BTW: notice how WyDOT doesn't apologize for not having sand down? ODOT is the same way. They are really puckered up right now waiting for the lawyers to start filing the lawsuits, I guarantee that. With the sophisticated weather forecasting now, they had plenty of advance warning of what to expect, and SHOULD have had plows and sanders out patrolling the known dangerous areas.At the very least they could have run a rolling slow-down to get traffic slowed down if they were out .No excuses. Yeah, I know that the wind blows hard in wyoming, and it's hard to get sand to stick to the road blah, blah, blah, but they have an obligation to protect the motoring public from carnage like this. WE are fighting with ODOT to get them to do a better job also. They have come a long way with our nagging, and a friendly state legislator on our side. It's time to start using chemicals on these roads to prevent this. Some work down to 20 degrees. There are alternatives now. The R&D has been done and the solutions are available. To just pretend that it is still 1965 and there is nothing they can do is outrageous when you see things like this occur.
 
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