Freightmaster1
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YRC can kiss those $11.90 an hour dock casuals goodbye...checkmate ABF!
ABF | Checkmate ABF!
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I don't get the part about there being checkmate. 
If I see anyone being put into checkmate it's me and my brothers at ABF by our IBT leadership as they show us time and time again that we don't matter and our contract isn't worth :
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If I see anyone being put into checkmate it's me and my brothers at ABF by our IBT leadership as they show us time and time again that we don't matter and our contract isn't worth ::.
disgruntled teamster
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Company does what it wants, IBt obliges. Tell me again who represents us ?
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I think it's great that guys get more money. Maybe the fort realizes that crappy pay equals crappy workers. Still $16 an hour with no benefits (for what corporate expects of you ) is still below what other LTL carriers are paying
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We really have no representation. Did you ever hear the old saying, "Give them and inch and they'll take a mile"? Our blood in is the water and the company smells it. What will they do to us next?
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I don't get the part about there being checkmate.
I guess I have to ask, what has the Union or company done wrong in your eyes ? They raised the pay from $13 to $16 and your bitching both sides are ****ing you ?? I dont get it.....
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disgruntled teamster
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Don't get it ? How about a loss of pay, loss of vacation and company rewriting the rules of the contract . Yeah , a raise is great, god bless those who got it. But wasn't that pay rate in the contract ? The same contract the company said they would not reopen to visit the vacation issue for all members ? I guess that only applies when it benefits us. Union should have got something in return for its members, not just kiss the companies posterior.
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The company claimed that they needed the concessions in order to survive and the IBT supported them. AND IT WAS VOTED ON. I have since seen evidence that they took, and were given, more than was necessary and gave themselves lavish bonuses while we all sit here stuck with a bad contract. Now they give more money to a select group of people who did not even vote on the contract and will probably never even become permanent employees. WE DID NOT GET TO VOTE ON IT. I surmise that this was done to attract more workers at a lower rate so they could cut our work hours and this nets the company another $20/hr savings out of our pockets.I guess I have to ask, what has the Union or company done wrong in your eyes ? They raised the pay from $13 to $16 and your bitching both sides areyou ?? I dont get it.....
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Hey ABFer, I hear that the fort has shaken up the etch-a-sketch and shuffled around some people !!! Have you heard anything ? Just a rumor perhaps ?
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Nope not a rumor changes have been happening for a while now. Starting with Roy Slagle's untimely departure there has been a steady wave of changes in management across the country. DC managers shifted to manage smaller terminals in other parts of the country, terminal managers being watched more closely, sales managers shifted around etc. Some of them had more than just a year or two in their positions too. What takes them so long to catch up with their dead wood? It wouldn't take long to find me if I hunkered down in the break room and didn't do my job. Where was their oversight? Whoever gave them those jobs should be scrutinized as well and whoever left the dogs run loose without supervision should be taken care of too...or maybe they were. I'd guess that it all started at the top and is slowly trickling down.
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Ok .Thanks for your reply. I agree.
I still am dumfounded we blame the Intl and ABF.. ABF Teamsters voted this crap and what follows in... A No win would have changed landscape and had upper hand.. they would not have sold to a company with as billion in debt nor just closed. mad at IBT yes, ABF yes, for treating us bad, but our! as a Brotherhoods fault..
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I agree. The brotherhood shouldn't hold any ill feelings for ABF wanting a concessionary contract after watching all the concessions given to yrc, just the way they went about it using deceit and outright lies which never would of worked if they didn't have the internationals collaboration and the members allowing their irrational fears to overwhelm good judgement.Yes, the international should be held accountable for not acting in the best interests of its members for not only contesting the companys propaganda but adding a few threats of their own. But that wouldnt of worked either if the members didnt allow their irrational fears to overwhelm good judgement. The international is paid soley to act in your best interests but so are the police which we all know by now thats not always the case. One should alawys be alert to the fact of life that there are rotten apples in every bushel and never allow fear to overrule good sound judgement, unless you like still being treated like a child not having to take on responsibility and continue to accept the advice by those looking out for you with no questions asked. Children dont always know whats best for them but adults should. One must find the origin of the problem before it can be fixed and that begins from the ground up because every structure needs a sound foundation to stand the test of time.
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This is the first contract where they've used an outright lie......I.e: YRC is going to purchase us......to confuse the easily confusable into voting wrong. I'd say the initial fault is ABF's........with collaboration from the IBT. Will this be the negotiating tactic from here on out?