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Let me be very clear about the Smith Training at 881
This is a very good program
The trainers here are into this kind of thing and do a good job
They asked for volunteers and thats what they got.
The problem is the way this was implemented .
 
At 511, I'm not even sure if he is considered a Smith System trainer, or just orienting new hires/new casuals. I am sure of a few things though:

1. He is well trained on swallowing everything that the company has below the waist-line.
2. He will train them to do what he has allowed to happen for years. WORKING OFF THE CLOCK. (DRIVERS: Get to the terminal about 20 minutes early, get in your truck, drive it to either the dispatch office or go ahead and hook-up to your trailer. Make sure that it is loaded the way you like. If not, flag down someone and have them re-work it to your liking. You can punch in once you are hooked up and ready to hit the street. In the evening, park your trailer, turn in your paperwork, punch out, then drive your tractor back to the truck parking area.
DOCK: Get to the terminal about 10-15 minutes early. Get on your forklift, adjust your seat to your liking. Should your forklift be down, go to the shop (before your shift starts) and see when it will be ready. Make sure you don't need to go to the restroom, so you can do that during your breaks.)
3. He will train them to step DOWN, not UP, when the head steward is fired. Tuck that tail firmly underneath whatever nuts you claim to have had and RUN, FORREST, RUN

 
Cab Lizzard said:
Milking the clock by trainers .
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No. I am talking about the same people who have made a career of banging 60 hours a week even way before Smith System was here. As far as the seniority thing you are whining about on this, I believe the company is trying to find people who will step up, and put forth an honest effort to try and do the training properly,and not asking someone who happens to have more time with the company. Just my opinion.
 
rag-a-muffin said:
At 511, I'm not even sure if he is considered a Smith System trainer, or just orienting new hires/new casuals. I am sure of a few things though:

1. He is well trained on swallowing everything that the company has below the waist-line.
2. He will train them to do what he has allowed to happen for years. WORKING OFF THE CLOCK. (DRIVERS: Get to the terminal about 20 minutes early, get in your truck, drive it to either the dispatch office or go ahead and hook-up to your trailer. Make sure that it is loaded the way you like. If not, flag down someone and have them re-work it to your liking. You can punch in once you are hooked up and ready to hit the street. In the evening, park your trailer, turn in your paperwork, punch out, then drive your tractor back to the truck parking area.
DOCK: Get to the terminal about 10-15 minutes early. Get on your forklift, adjust your seat to your liking. Should your forklift be down, go to the shop (before your shift starts) and see when it will be ready. Make sure you don't need to go to the restroom, so you can do that during your breaks.)
3. He will train them to step DOWN, not UP, when the head steward is fired. Tuck that tail firmly underneath whatever nuts you claim to have had and RUN, FORREST, RUN
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None of this has anything at all to do with Smith System driving. This stuff is off topic.

I personally see Smith System as unnecessary if the company hires good drivers. To me, Smith is simply someone capitalizing on good marketing, being smarter than I in the money making scheme of life. But that's me. Just wish I'd thought of it first....
 
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jimmy g said:
None of this has anything at all to do with Smith System driving. This stuff is off topic.

I personally see Smith System as unnecessary if the company hires good drivers. To me, Smith is simply someone capitalizing on good marketing, being smarter than I in the money making scheme of life. But that's me. Just wish I'd thought of it first....
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You cannot be that bad off. I looked up your 1st quarter video sales on Nasdaq, and your business has nearly doubled since 2013!!!!
 
jimmy g said:
None of this has anything at all to do with Smith System driving. This stuff is off topic.

I personally see Smith System as unnecessary if the company hires good drivers. To me, Smith is simply someone capitalizing on good marketing, being smarter than I in the money making scheme of life. But that's me. Just wish I'd thought of it first....
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Jimmy, there's the conundrum. The only Drivers we're getting are coming from Schools or The TL Companies, with maybe 1 yr. experience. I think they [we] need to get all the training available. It's wild out on the road today with all the gadgets Drivers are using and doing in these cars and trucks, you know, you see it everyday. I enjoyed my class, I viewed it as a refresher. 40 yrs. on a H-D, I still watch and learn from Jerry Palladino's videos on You-tube.
 
BIG R GUY said:
No. I am talking about the same people who have made a career of banging 60 hours a week even way before Smith System was here. As far as the seniority thing you are whining about on this, I believe the company is trying to find people who will step up, and put forth an honest effort to try and do the training properly,and not asking someone who happens to have more time with the company. Just my opinion.
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Lot's of clock suckers here and it goes way back.
Many have the time under the desk on OT down to a science. But then again managers allow it.
Quite a few are over their HOS weekly and the company looks the other way.
True the company is and in our case found people to step up and put forth the effort.
The problem is when a person is taken off their bid start time. Then sent home after their little ride in the van after 8 hours.
So the paper work has been filed and will see where it goes from here. Like most things here it did not have to go this way but in this case the company did not even try to do the right thing. Its the way this was implemented is the problem.
Maybe we should just throw the contract out the window for one 8 hour day every 3 years.
I will give credit where it is due.
The man hired for the Safety position here has a history of round mouth syndrome dating back to before the merger.
The company did hire the right man but for the wrong reason's. Now he has two minions in training .
 
Cab Lizzard said:
Lot's of clock suckers here and it goes way back.
Many have the time under the desk on OT down to a science. But then again managers allow it.
Quite a few are over their HOS weekly and the company looks the other way.
True the company is and in our case found people to step up and put forth the effort.
The problem is when a person is taken off their bid start time. Then sent home after their little ride in the van after 8 hours.
So the paper work has been filed and will see where it goes from here. Like most things here it did not have to go this way but in this case the company did not even try to do the right thing. Its the way this was implemented is the problem.
Maybe we should just throw the contract out the window for one 8 hour day every 3 years.
I will give credit where it is due.
The man hired for the Safety position here has a history of round mouth syndrome dating back to before the merger.
The company did hire the right man but for the wrong reason's. Now he has two minions in training .
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I guess the only thing to be thankful for then is that if Yrc survives, 881 will only have to be dragged through this underhanded crap once every 5 years.
 
Cab Lizzard said:
Its not about the seniority of the trainers or the fact that they went on a company paid junket to get said training.
It's about bid drivers being taken off their bids and cheated out of their daily overtime.
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Should have grieved the pay we did and got paid a average days pay for bid drivers
 
bigtruk_us said:
I met D.H.i didnt find much brilliance or intelligence.Just an empty suit
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D.H. reminds me of a 30's-ish Momma's boy who lives in mom's basement, playing video games all night and surfing p*on sites while she's at church.

The fact that he holds a job with YRC simply proves everything that I have heard about our leadership: They are constantly looking for new ways to spend and waste money.
 
jimmy g said:
None of this has anything at all to do with Smith System driving. This stuff is off topic.

I personally see Smith System as unnecessary if the company hires good drivers. To me, Smith is simply someone capitalizing on good marketing, being smarter than I in the money making scheme of life. But that's me. Just wish I'd thought of it first....
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"The Jimmy G System".... Hmmm... doesn't have the same ring to it........

You'd need a pretty sharp Marketing Dept.... I could make myself available for the proper fee....lol
 
rag-a-muffin said:
Pilot, this guy did not BID into this "Trainer" position. He got it the same way he got everything else that he has........ Think KIRBY, DYSON or HOOVER.

The same way he got his wife some casual work in the office. Not by who he knows, but by who he blows (or SUCKS).

Before he was TRAINING, he was ORIENTING new hires. He holds a bid job, and works all the overtime that he wants. (Thankfully, he's been happy with only getting 20 hours of OT per week.)

Sad thing is this.... When the 511 head steward was fired (and off over 5 or so months) this now-trainer did not want to be an assistant steward any longer. Now that is what I call looking out for the men that he supposedly represents.

A YES MAN ALL THE WAY, nothing more, nothing less. Anything and everything that it takes to keep from moving freight.
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I don't personally know the situation with your trainer at your location, however, the situation that you describe would not be eliminated by bidding according to seniority....... There are always going to be some that gets into such a position that is not very well qualified..Look at Management as an example....The Company hires good ones...but also some bad ones slip through the process.....but a seniority bid would probably exacerbate the situation...... Maybe if enough of you complain....and present evidence of his abusing his position, the Company would make a change....
 
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pilot87 said:
Yes Really!... From the content of your post you sound like your jealous of the Trainers.....and that you were not selected.... Perhaps not...but that is the way you come across.... Spin it anyway you want...but a Trainer position is never going to be bid according to senority and rightfully so...
A senoir driver bidding onto a Trainer opening does not automatically give that person credibility nor qualifacations....the qualities needed to be successful as a trainer are usually something that cannot be "trained" into someone.... Some people just dont have the personality or other needed traits needed to be effective... I've known several people who desperately wanted a Trainers position that had a lot of senority...but they would have made very poor trainers...the only ones that couldn't see that were themselves... You come across as one of those types judging from your posts....again I may be wrong, as I don't personally know you, however that would be my guess on the matter...

You dont like the idea of a teamster as a trainer......I would bet you'd equally be as resentful if Management conducted the course because they "dont know how to drive a truck so who do think they are to tell me how to drive".... You would only be "happy" if you were the one chosen.... Of course you'll deny that.... It's expected....

Believe me I've heard it all and there is nothing new that you could bring to the table on this matter.....
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Why don't you just give your Union card up & quit? Join the management team cause "They Can Do That" lmao
 
pilot87 said:
Believe me I've heard it all and there is nothing new that you could bring to the table on this matter.....
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Oleyeller745 said:
Why don't you just give your Union card up & quit? Join the management team cause "They Can Do That" lmao
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Guess I was right in my post.....I've heard that before and your not bringing anything new or constructive to the table.........

By the way Oleyeller745, Welcome to Truckingboards......
 
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