Holland | They can give themselves bonuses yet can't meet basic obligations to the working end of the equation

QUOTE="Northern Flash, post: 960371, member: 285"]Don't sell yourself short. (and for the record....my resume' shows that I am qualified) We all agree that most of the Mgt. team don't have a clue, and quite often they don't have any driving experience either, and they simply can't relate to real world of trucking. So if they are always looked down on, why don't more drivers who actually have a clue step up and help be part of the solution?

There are a few problems with this part. First, I did not HAVE to move. I moved voluntarily. Second, my bitterness toward Holland hasn't gotten worse, it really hasn't changed any. What I don't like seeing is the same failed business policies being continued, and since I have friends that still work there, it pisses me off to see them and their futures getting pissed away by a bunch of jackasses in suits and ties.
And since I have nothing to loose since I left, and they can't touch me, I speak out on issues that many of you guys need to be careful about saying publically, in fear of them going after you.

I give them the nutkicks that they deserve.....on you guy's behalf.

Based on the posts that I read on here, drivers have left already, and it would seem wise to hide the sharp objects.

I have to call b.s. on this. If it were only lights, they would get fixed since the cost is minimal.

I agree on the driver shortage 100%. But it's obvious, based on the posts on here, that the freight isn't even moving on time because of your driver shortage, where most everyone else can at least move their freight. And there are constant advertising ads for hiring drivers for you guys. Why is it that the advertising has become constant?

That's why I think that you should consider management......then you can pass along your optimism to others.

Just like the rest of you guys, my pension is hinging on your survival as a company. I want you to not only survive, but to prosper, but if things don't change, we'll all be drawing our pittance of a pension out of the Govt. fund......as orphans.[/QUOTE]

Flash,there have been some operational flaws that make many of us scratch our heads.Its not just us though,I hear all of the drivers from other freight lines talk about the same bs.

I will say,as bad as it seems, we have been operating fairly well.The analysts were even impressed with the management of the regionals 2q 2015.Holland actually operated
at a high 89.That is better than some of the nons,so they must be doing something right.

I'm serious about the marker lights,we had a meeting and they told us it was killing our csa score,and to please check them before we left the yard.

I'm a CF orphan myself flash and I guess instead of spending my last days on a lake or in the mountains,I'll be in a delapatated trailer in a poverty stricken rural area.
I know this may sound stupid ,but I'll be thankful for my trailer.

Hopefully we survive and I think we will.IMO HOLLAND is still a very good company.The biggest thing for me now is getting that hourly pay back up there.I guess it will be easier to
figure out when this pension mess gets resolved,and what the company's contributions will be. Nonetheless,health and happiness to everyone. :guiness:
 
I was just talking to a recently retired mid-level manager I've known for 20 years at Holland....he said he's never seen things so bad at Holland so he had to go. He said morale for ALL workers --drivers and management ---is just about zero. Everyone just collecting a check until something better comes along.....
 
And I'm sure Holland/yrc will keep on keeping on untill 2019.....however.....the thought that alot of what has been lost(voted away) is coming back is....not likely. I know quite a few people at Holland that still believe 2019 is the year they go back to scale AND get their pension back.....sounds like 4 more wasted years to me.
 
QUOTE="Northern Flash, post: 960371, member: 285"]Don't sell yourself short. (and for the record....my resume' shows that I am qualified) We all agree that most of the Mgt. team don't have a clue, and quite often they don't have any driving experience either, and they simply can't relate to real world of trucking. So if they are always looked down on, why don't more drivers who actually have a clue step up and help be part of the solution?

There are a few problems with this part. First, I did not HAVE to move. I moved voluntarily. Second, my bitterness toward Holland hasn't gotten worse, it really hasn't changed any. What I don't like seeing is the same failed business policies being continued, and since I have friends that still work there, it pisses me off to see them and their futures getting pissed away by a bunch of jackasses in suits and ties.
And since I have nothing to loose since I left, and they can't touch me, I speak out on issues that many of you guys need to be careful about saying publically, in fear of them going after you.

I give them the nutkicks that they deserve.....on you guy's behalf.

Based on the posts that I read on here, drivers have left already, and it would seem wise to hide the sharp objects.

I have to call b.s. on this. If it were only lights, they would get fixed since the cost is minimal.

I agree on the driver shortage 100%. But it's obvious, based on the posts on here, that the freight isn't even moving on time because of your driver shortage, where most everyone else can at least move their freight. And there are constant advertising ads for hiring drivers for you guys. Why is it that the advertising has become constant?

That's why I think that you should consider management......then you can pass along your optimism to others.

Just like the rest of you guys, my pension is hinging on your survival as a company. I want you to not only survive, but to prosper, but if things don't change, we'll all be drawing our pittance of a pension out of the Govt. fund......as orphans.

Flash,there have been some operational flaws that make many of us scratch our heads.Its not just us though,I hear all of the drivers from other freight lines talk about the same bs.

I will say,as bad as it seems, we have been operating fairly well.The analysts were even impressed with the management of the regionals 2q 2015.Holland actually operated
at a high 89.That is better than some of the nons,so they must be doing something right.

I'm serious about the marker lights,we had a meeting and they told us it was killing our csa score,and to please check them before we left the yard.

I'm a CF orphan myself flash and I guess instead of spending my last days on a lake or in the mountains,I'll be in a delapatated trailer in a poverty stricken rural area.
I know this may sound stupid ,but I'll be thankful for my trailer.

Hopefully we survive and I think we will.IMO HOLLAND is still a very good company.The biggest thing for me now is getting that hourly pay back up there.I guess it will be easier to
figure out when this pension mess gets resolved,and what the company's contributions will be. Nonetheless,health and happiness to everyone. :guiness:[/QUOTE]
I just see you now in that hillbilly trailer park watchin some falcons and some wrestling on the TV, ready to fight anybody that calls wrestling fake!
 
I just see you now in that hillbilly trailer park watchin some falcons and some wrestling on the TV, ready to fight anybody that calls wrestling fake![/QUOTE]

Actually, I don't watch wrestling but,I'm sure I'll be surrounded by a bunch of people
who think the space shuttle if fake,and wrestling is real.
I'll probably have to start watching it though,because we will all be spliced into one cable line...splitting the bill between everyone in the trailer park.
 
2019 is pushing it. Economy is going to tank again before that, it has to. That will lead to the next haircut in 2017, OT and insurance this time. We'll hopefully say enough is enough, Then the headline "UNION
 
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They can give themselves bonuses yet can't meet basic obligations to the working end of the equation . it's time to say enough ! If they need to cut costs put their hands in their own pockets !
IT'S TIME TO WALK
 
scott ware is coming to the Chicago terminal on Tuesday ...anyone want to come here at chat with him ....he loves us ....lol jk

if u are near the Chicago area in McCook please come in and visit with him ....I hate the fact that holland keeps saying we are wasting money and yet we have to many atms...and people not fully qualified to do there jobs I mean really how many operation supervisors do u need at one terminal plus then u have inbound operations manager regional ...really how many more positions with titles do we need ...there is the real ? keep adding on more managers type jobs and add more and more supervisors the COMANY IS TOO TOP HEAVY WITH TITLE JOBS . SAVE YOUR MONEY and find good quality people ...u are hiring idiots
 
scott ware is coming to the Chicago terminal on Tuesday ...anyone want to come here at chat with him ....he loves us ....lol jk

if u are near the Chicago area in McCook please come in and visit with him ....I hate the fact that holland keeps saying we are wasting money and yet we have to many atms...and people not fully qualified to do there jobs I mean really how many operation supervisors do u need at one terminal plus then u have inbound operations manager regional ...really how many more positions with titles do we need ...there is the real ? keep adding on more managers type jobs and add more and more supervisors the COMANY IS TOO TOP HEAVY WITH TITLE JOBS . SAVE YOUR MONEY and find good quality people ...u are hiring idiots
AMEN!!!! On the idiots!!!!
 
The same Scott W. that came to JO and told us all "the 15% is NOT coming back....or the pension." Oh and also if we didn't like it.....find another job!
 
scott ware is coming to the Chicago terminal on Tuesday ...anyone want to come here at chat with him ....he loves us ....lol jk

if u are near the Chicago area in McCook please come in and visit with him ....I hate the fact that holland keeps saying we are wasting money and yet we have to many atms...and people not fully qualified to do there jobs I mean really how many operation supervisors do u need at one terminal plus then u have inbound operations manager regional ...really how many more positions with titles do we need ...there is the real ? keep adding on more managers type jobs and add more and more supervisors the COMANY IS TOO TOP HEAVY WITH TITLE JOBS . SAVE YOUR MONEY and find good quality people ...u are hiring idiots
Gee I hope he doesnt make his way to Milwaukee. The supervisors and dispatchers would have to get off facebook, twitter, and candy crush and actually have to show that they are worth the paycheck.
 
Gee I hope he doesnt make his way to Milwaukee. The supervisors and dispatchers would have to get off facebook, twitter, and candy crush and actually have to show that they are worth the paychec
The same Scott W. that came to JO and told us all "the 15% is NOT coming back....or the pension." Oh and also if we didn't like it.....find another job!
but before you go tell us what we can do to attract drivers
 
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