Tried the Washington # today. Seems Tyson Johnson's at a conference in the southern region. Left a message with someone in the central region. Will see if a get a return call. It ain't over til it's over.
Still nothing in writing.
Now you know how it felt when your local was allowed to take 705 s territory away and those men were laid off. Not to be a dick, but when you bid into Chicago north you will fell messed with again as the road drivers there are bid out of 710, Chicago heights. I think the bottom man there is like 2004 seniority. Your pension will stay with the local you are with now but the health benefits will be through 710. It just keeps getting better doesn't it.318 drivers got screwed in this change of operations. 30 year men are being told they will move with a bogus 2007 terminal seniority date even though we were forced there in 07.
Plus the change committee said our layoff seniority is the 07 date. What a GIANT slap in the face.
So a 9 year man has more rights than a 30 year veteran when it comes to keeping his job and bidding.
Wasn't this Union founded on the principles of seniority, job rights and security?
Instead the elected officials of this committee whom don't have to answer to the ones being effected by this change are violating our seniority rights at every possible avenue.
Anyone who works in a large metro area watch out!
This exact crap could happen to you!
The international Union tears up the Chicago white paper agreement when it came to our no votes on the MOU, but will not step in when our company seniority rights have been violated by the Chicago area locals.
We're told that we operate under both contracts depending upon what works best for the union and employers to work against you.
What do we pay dues for?
What's the point of the Union?
Seniority is the only thing we have left.
I have no idea what your talking about. I was FORCED here in 07 when 318 West Chicago and 302 Aurora were closed. It's 2015 and would like to go back, but my bidding, and layoff seniority date is 2007 when this terminal was opened, not 92 when I hired on. My question is, how come I loose 16 years by being forced to a location I never wanted to go to?Now you know how it felt when your local was allowed to take 705 s territory away and those men were laid off. Not to be a dick, but when you bid into Chicago north you will fell messed with again as the road drivers there are bid out of 710, Chicago heights. I think the bottom man there is like 2004 seniority. Your pension will stay with the local you are with now but the health benefits will be through 710. It just keeps getting better doesn't it.
I don't think pilot108 understands. You are NOT a road driver, you are local cartage. Any road driver at Bolingbrook (318) would be dovetailed, by company seniority, should they choose to relocate on a COO.I have no idea what your talking about. I was FORCED here in 07 when 318 West Chicago and 302 Aurora were closed. It's 2015 and would like to go back, but my bidding, and layoff seniority date is 2007 when this terminal was opened, not 92 when I hired on. My question is, how come I loose 16 years by being forced to a location I never wanted to go to?
Was there issues with people loosing jobs when they opened up that dump? Yep you bet. I had nothing to do with that nor am I'm even talking about it.
What I'm talking about and trying to bring to light is one of the Unions founding principles is seniority, yet they threw mine aside like it meant nothing.
You're right, I didn't catch that quasi was city. But his being upset is what I was trying to get to. 318 got a lot of 705's territory when they had a change and a lot of drivers got laid off. I wasn't blaming him, just saying that the co and union have made up their minds and not a lot will be done about it.I don't think pilot108 understands. You are NOT a road driver, you are local cartage. Any road driver at Bolingbrook (318) would be dovetailed, by company seniority, should they choose to relocate on a COO.
When LaSalle. Closed the 5 guys who followed there work to 304 went to the top of the board. There company seniority was there terminal seniority.You're right, I didn't catch that quasi was city. But his being upset is what I was trying to get to. 318 got a lot of 705's territory when they had a change and a lot of drivers got laid off. I wasn't blaming him, just saying that the co and union have made up their minds and not a lot will be done about it.
But where he wants to bid to(304),is not 705 territory. Never was. It is 673 where he originally came from.You're right, I didn't catch that quasi was city. But his being upset is what I was trying to get to. 318 got a lot of 705's territory when they had a change and a lot of drivers got laid off. I wasn't blaming him, just saying that the co and union have made up their minds and not a lot will be done about it.
I'm missing something here. When quasi went to 318 he was coming off a layoff status, correct? then he wasn't forced, it was a work opportunity. If that's the case 2007 is his seniority date, correct?But where he wants to bid to(304),is not 705 territory. Never was. It is 673 where he originally came from.
They went to 318, Bolingbrook, from Rdwy 302 Aurora, and old 318,(west Chicago) when they closed those 2 terminals. No lay off. No choice.you guys in the metro area need to quit thinking terminal seniority, and start thinking company seniority. No offense intended P. People on here talk unity, and standing up for one another but now all they want is an earlier bid time even if it means putting a knife in a fellow worker who has more time than them. None of the Chicago area locals will ever admit this whole way of doing things was wrong from the start years ago. That's all we have left anymore is seniority.I'm missing something here. When quasi went to 318 he was coming off a layoff status, correct? then he wasn't forced, it was a work opportunity. If that's the case 2007 is his seniority date, correct?
Then it was a work opportunity. The choice was 318 or layoff. 2007 is their seinoirty dateThey went to 318, Bolingbrook, from Rdwy 302 Aurora, and old 318,(west Chicago) when they closed those 2 terminals. No lay off. No choice.you guys in the metro area need to quit thinking terminal seniority, and start thinking company seniority. No offense intended P. People on here talk unity, and standing up for one another but now all they want is an earlier bid time even if it means putting a knife in a fellow worker who has more time than them. None of the Chicago area locals will ever admit this whole way of doing things was wrong from the start years ago. That's all we have left anymore is seniority.
With the Chicago area mentality it is his seniority date. Guy has 23 years company time, and they want to treat him like he has 8.Then it was a work opportunity. The choice was 318 or layoff. 2007 is their seinoirty date
Unity reminds me of not working a premium day so the unassigned or laid off can work but then they don't answer their phones. Or working two hours overtime so the same can work other jobs or go to school, and you see them out in the parking lot drinking beer. I always liked the ones who complained about the senior guy who should retire and give somebody else a chance. Like their family is more important than his.They went to 318, Bolingbrook, from Rdwy 302 Aurora, and old 318,(west Chicago) when they closed those 2 terminals. No lay off. No choice.you guys in the metro area need to quit thinking terminal seniority, and start thinking company seniority. No offense intended P. People on here talk unity, and standing up for one another but now all they want is an earlier bid time even if it means putting a knife in a fellow worker who has more time than them. None of the Chicago area locals will ever admit this whole way of doing things was wrong from the start years ago. That's all we have left anymore is seniority.
Article 8. Section 6. Change of Operations
Change of Operations Committee (a) Present terminals, breaking points or domiciles shall not be transferred, changed or modified without the approval of an appropriate Change of Operations Committee. Such Committee shall be appointed in each of the Regional Areas, equally composed of Employer and Union representatives. The Change of Operations Committee shall have the authority to determine the seniority of the employees affected and such determination shall be final and binding.
Because of "white paper" agreements in effect when Bolingbrook (318) was created, normal "dovetailing" did not occur. As a result the 318 Local Cartage seniority list was and is a mess with regards to seniority. A labor attorney was retained at that time (2007) and a lawsuit was initiated. As a result of the above cited article and section, that litigation was eventually dismissed.
The current COO had an opportunity to correct the injustice. And rule that company seniority NOT classification or terminal seniority prevail in the "dovetailing" of transferees. Obviously they choose not to.
When LaSalle. Closed the 5 guys who followed there work to 304 went to the top of the board. There company seniority was there terminal seniority.
But where he wants to bid to(304),is not 705 territory. Never was. It is 673 where he originally came from.
With the Chicago area mentality it is his seniority date. Guy has 23 years company time, and they want to treat him like he has 8.
Oops!! I meant to say tutone mentality, not Chicago mentality....Yr
YRC does not want 23 year seniority guys. Move him, relocate him, close his terminal then open it back up in a year, another COO. Warning letters, Keep jacking with him till he leaves. Open your eyes.
Oops!! I meant to say tutone mentality, not Chicago mentality....
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YRC does not want 23 year seniority guys. Move him, relocate him, close his terminal then open it back up in a year, another COO. Warning letters, Keep jacking with him till he leaves. Open your eyes.