Yellow | 318 drivers get the jam in Chicago consolidation

Tried the Washington # today. Seems Tyson Johnson's at a conference in the southern region. Left a message with someone in the central region. Will see if a get a return call. It ain't over til it's over.
Still nothing in writing.
 
Tried the Washington # today. Seems Tyson Johnson's at a conference in the southern region. Left a message with someone in the central region. Will see if a get a return call. It ain't over til it's over.
Still nothing in writing.

if i remember right i believe Gordon Sweeton is the Chairman of the change committee and he resides over Central States and Chicago is in the Central States maybe you should call Gordon
 
318 drivers got screwed in this change of operations. 30 year men are being told they will move with a bogus 2007 terminal seniority date even though we were forced there in 07.
Plus the change committee said our layoff seniority is the 07 date. What a GIANT slap in the face.
So a 9 year man has more rights than a 30 year veteran when it comes to keeping his job and bidding.
Wasn't this Union founded on the principles of seniority, job rights and security?
Instead the elected officials of this committee whom don't have to answer to the ones being effected by this change are violating our seniority rights at every possible avenue.
Anyone who works in a large metro area watch out!
This exact crap could happen to you!
The international Union tears up the Chicago white paper agreement when it came to our no votes on the MOU, but will not step in when our company seniority rights have been violated by the Chicago area locals.
We're told that we operate under both contracts depending upon what works best for the union and employers to work against you.
What do we pay dues for?
What's the point of the Union?
Seniority is the only thing we have left.
Now you know how it felt when your local was allowed to take 705 s territory away and those men were laid off. Not to be a dick, but when you bid into Chicago north you will fell messed with again as the road drivers there are bid out of 710, Chicago heights. I think the bottom man there is like 2004 seniority. Your pension will stay with the local you are with now but the health benefits will be through 710. It just keeps getting better doesn't it.
 
Now you know how it felt when your local was allowed to take 705 s territory away and those men were laid off. Not to be a dick, but when you bid into Chicago north you will fell messed with again as the road drivers there are bid out of 710, Chicago heights. I think the bottom man there is like 2004 seniority. Your pension will stay with the local you are with now but the health benefits will be through 710. It just keeps getting better doesn't it.
I have no idea what your talking about. I was FORCED here in 07 when 318 West Chicago and 302 Aurora were closed. It's 2015 and would like to go back, but my bidding, and layoff seniority date is 2007 when this terminal was opened, not 92 when I hired on. My question is, how come I loose 16 years by being forced to a location I never wanted to go to?
Was there issues with people loosing jobs when they opened up that dump? Yep you bet. I had nothing to do with that nor am I'm even talking about it.
What I'm talking about and trying to bring to light is one of the Unions founding principles is seniority, yet they threw mine aside like it meant nothing.
 
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I have no idea what your talking about. I was FORCED here in 07 when 318 West Chicago and 302 Aurora were closed. It's 2015 and would like to go back, but my bidding, and layoff seniority date is 2007 when this terminal was opened, not 92 when I hired on. My question is, how come I loose 16 years by being forced to a location I never wanted to go to?
Was there issues with people loosing jobs when they opened up that dump? Yep you bet. I had nothing to do with that nor am I'm even talking about it.
What I'm talking about and trying to bring to light is one of the Unions founding principles is seniority, yet they threw mine aside like it meant nothing.
I don't think pilot108 understands. You are NOT a road driver, you are local cartage. Any road driver at Bolingbrook (318) would be dovetailed, by company seniority, should they choose to relocate on a COO.
 
I don't think pilot108 understands. You are NOT a road driver, you are local cartage. Any road driver at Bolingbrook (318) would be dovetailed, by company seniority, should they choose to relocate on a COO.
You're right, I didn't catch that quasi was city. But his being upset is what I was trying to get to. 318 got a lot of 705's territory when they had a change and a lot of drivers got laid off. I wasn't blaming him, just saying that the co and union have made up their minds and not a lot will be done about it.
 
You're right, I didn't catch that quasi was city. But his being upset is what I was trying to get to. 318 got a lot of 705's territory when they had a change and a lot of drivers got laid off. I wasn't blaming him, just saying that the co and union have made up their minds and not a lot will be done about it.
When LaSalle. Closed the 5 guys who followed there work to 304 went to the top of the board. There company seniority was there terminal seniority.
 
You're right, I didn't catch that quasi was city. But his being upset is what I was trying to get to. 318 got a lot of 705's territory when they had a change and a lot of drivers got laid off. I wasn't blaming him, just saying that the co and union have made up their minds and not a lot will be done about it.
But where he wants to bid to(304),is not 705 territory. Never was. It is 673 where he originally came from.
 
But where he wants to bid to(304),is not 705 territory. Never was. It is 673 where he originally came from.
I'm missing something here. When quasi went to 318 he was coming off a layoff status, correct? then he wasn't forced, it was a work opportunity. If that's the case 2007 is his seniority date, correct?
If so , the others went on a change to 318 so they would keep their seniority when they went to 318. On a work opportunity you keep company seniority for pay and vacation and get on the bottom of the board for seniority at that barn, and for any future change.
 
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I'm missing something here. When quasi went to 318 he was coming off a layoff status, correct? then he wasn't forced, it was a work opportunity. If that's the case 2007 is his seniority date, correct?
They went to 318, Bolingbrook, from Rdwy 302 Aurora, and old 318,(west Chicago) when they closed those 2 terminals. No lay off. No choice.you guys in the metro area need to quit thinking terminal seniority, and start thinking company seniority. No offense intended P. People on here talk unity, and standing up for one another but now all they want is an earlier bid time even if it means putting a knife in a fellow worker who has more time than them. None of the Chicago area locals will ever admit this whole way of doing things was wrong from the start years ago. That's all we have left anymore is seniority.
 
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They went to 318, Bolingbrook, from Rdwy 302 Aurora, and old 318,(west Chicago) when they closed those 2 terminals. No lay off. No choice.you guys in the metro area need to quit thinking terminal seniority, and start thinking company seniority. No offense intended P. People on here talk unity, and standing up for one another but now all they want is an earlier bid time even if it means putting a knife in a fellow worker who has more time than them. None of the Chicago area locals will ever admit this whole way of doing things was wrong from the start years ago. That's all we have left anymore is seniority.
Then it was a work opportunity. The choice was 318 or layoff. 2007 is their seinoirty date
 
They went to 318, Bolingbrook, from Rdwy 302 Aurora, and old 318,(west Chicago) when they closed those 2 terminals. No lay off. No choice.you guys in the metro area need to quit thinking terminal seniority, and start thinking company seniority. No offense intended P. People on here talk unity, and standing up for one another but now all they want is an earlier bid time even if it means putting a knife in a fellow worker who has more time than them. None of the Chicago area locals will ever admit this whole way of doing things was wrong from the start years ago. That's all we have left anymore is seniority.
Unity reminds me of not working a premium day so the unassigned or laid off can work but then they don't answer their phones. Or working two hours overtime so the same can work other jobs or go to school, and you see them out in the parking lot drinking beer. I always liked the ones who complained about the senior guy who should retire and give somebody else a chance. Like their family is more important than his.
 
It was NOT work opportunity. The COO left the disposition of seniority up to the locals involved. And THAT is when the problem began.

Article 8. Section 6. Change of Operations
Change of Operations Committee (a) Present terminals, breaking points or domiciles shall not be transferred, changed or modified without the approval of an appropriate Change of Operations Committee. Such Committee shall be appointed in each of the Regional Areas, equally composed of Employer and Union representatives. The Change of Operations Committee shall have the authority to determine the seniority of the employees affected and such determination shall be final and binding.

Because of "white paper" agreements in effect when Bolingbrook (318) was created, normal "dovetailing" did not occur. As a result the 318 Local Cartage seniority list was and is a mess with regards to seniority. A labor attorney was retained at that time (2007) and a lawsuit was initiated. As a result of the above cited article and section, that litigation was eventually dismissed.

The current COO had an opportunity to correct the injustice. And rule that company seniority NOT classification or terminal seniority prevail in the "dovetailing" of transferees. Obviously they choose not to.

He has EVERY right to expect to have his company AND bidding seniority aligned, based on continuous employment in the same classification. Just as f trucker pointed out on the La Salle consolidation into Montgomery.

When LaSalle. Closed the 5 guys who followed there work to 304 went to the top of the board. There company seniority was there terminal seniority.

But where he wants to bid to(304),is not 705 territory. Never was. It is 673 where he originally came from.

This entire series of farcical events is the fault of the locals involved. When Bolingbrook was created the local cartage seniority list should have been dovetailed, by seniority. IT WAS NOT! And I put a considerable amount of the blame on 705. They fought dovetailing, to the detriment of fellow Teamsters, WITH MORE SENOIRITY! Just like they did later at the cut over change at 309 and 301.
 
Where are they going to run all this work out of ? Seems like them to run all this out of Saulk Village wouldn't be very efficient . The Ridge would be the most efficient way but then they have a problem with the mayor . Are they going to move to an other available terminal ? The only one that come to mind is the Fed X terminal on Virgina Street Chicago Ridge where Fed X uses only half of a very large terminal .
 
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With the Chicago area mentality it is his seniority date. Guy has 23 years company time, and they want to treat him like he has 8.


YRC does not want 23 year seniority guys. Move him, relocate him, close his terminal then open it back up in a year, another COO. Warning letters, Keep jacking with him till he leaves. Open your eyes.
 
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YRC does not want 23 year seniority guys. Move him, relocate him, close his terminal then open it back up in a year, another COO. Warning letters, Keep jacking with him till he leaves. Open your eyes.
Oops!! I meant to say tutone mentality, not Chicago mentality....
 
every one loves being red circled . when they are in that circle ,when on the outside looking in its not so good
 
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