A flawed grievance process

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  1. Teamsta II

    Teamsta II dribble is dribble

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    https://teamster.org/news/2017/08/local-767-wins-two-major-arbitration-cases-against-ups

    First off I am glad these two folks got their jobs back and made whole.

    It's the process that is atrocious! One was fired in 2015,the other 2016! It took until August 2017 to get their case resolved!

    The grievance process is an abomination! If it is not changed the rest of the contract is practically unenforceable!

    Both the freight and parcel grievance procedure is horrible for the membership.
     
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  2. ltl 07

    ltl 07 New Member

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    This is the way all grievance are handled at all companies. You have local level hearing the panel hearing then national hearing then on to aberration witch is a court hearing . The union did their job and didn't backdown from the company. Aberration is a court hearing where a judge and lawyers go over the contract and decide if the union or the company is right. It is a long process
     
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    An aberration? Is th
     
  5. vongrimmenstein

    vongrimmenstein Well-Known Member

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    You hire a lawyer or file with the EEOC. If there is cause & they want to handle it they will be your lawyer. Or you might have been wronged, but they tell you to hire an attorney for they will not try the case for you. I have mentioned attorney Paul Taylor who an attorney out of Minnesota who helps drivers with wrongful discharge. He will tell you it can take 3 years to get a ruling & work thru the appeals process. I know of one driver who won everything back & demanded he be allowed to go back to work for the company that fired him. He did. Clocked in, sat for 8 hours & resigned. It was all set up in advance that he would not do any work that 1 day. He wanted to rub it in the noses of management & say good buy to his co workers. Also in all rulings, it has to be posted for 60 to 90 days the ruling from the Administrative Law Judge That shows what the company did wrong & they promise to not do it again. The lawyers for the company try not to have the postings in the work place, but all the judge’s order it. It is not an easy road. But, if you see it coming, record conversation, & document everything. Get copies of anything related. You show up in court with evidence to support you case, you usually win. No or little evidence, don't bother to file. A waste of time & money. I have know Paul better part of 25 years & he is a straight shooter. If you win, the company that fired you pays all attorneys fees & expenses. If not you might be out some filling fees for the court's. Von.

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    vongrimmenstein Well-Known Member

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    Here is a ruling by a ALJ that shows the length a company will go to to hide or destroy documents that would help you & hurt them in a legal proceeding. It is a little long to read, but it clearly describes the reasons why an employee in the work place (union or not) should do all they can to protect them self. If you work somewhere for 10 years & then you are thrown out the door for bogus reasons, it will follow you every place you apply. There are a lot of reasons to CYA. von.

    https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55ad5a8ce4b0ec4b2849cf9a/t/55b1c3b2e4b046ea7676153b/1437713330935/Summary Judgement order.pdf
     

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